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Blue roan lily, on 24 May 2024 - 07:12 PM, said:

Pretty much what someone wrote in the Telegraph today, not a nats breath between them in their economic policies and as we have zero money, the only way we can generate more is to get the economy growing again, and none of their policies will do that...

Maybe we need Liz back

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 24 May 2024 - 04:04 PM, said:

adding new bits but ignoring the challenges laid down, really does think he is a politician this EoC chap!

Could you post links to the Tory MPs endorsing Farage... and outline which ones are standing again...

dart in the crossbar, on 24 May 2024 - 08:53 AM, said:

No, I think you should do what is right at the time and best for the country. But I wasnt the one slagging another party for doing that...

So far, I've preferred the bits when they say we cant afford that to the bits where they randomly have ideas to solve problems as though everyone before them was stupid and its an easy problem to solve, that smacks of naievety.

(On tuition fees, I'd rather we kept them and you paid them back regardless, might stop people going for 3 years of partying that does nothing to improve their job prospects!)

Hey Chris, can we talk about going back on pledges and not sticking to what they said they would do.... but not the LDs and tuition fees, this time its Kier Starmer and tuition fees... It was in the last Labour manifesto, it was in his manifesto to become Labour leader... but now they arent going to do it.

Going to bad mouth him for not being able to do everything he wanted to do, or will it now be a sensible decision to prioritise other things...

I'm going for the second in a wholly hypocritical way!

Here is me thinking we elect parties and policies - not an individual. Not hearing much about those at the moment...

(Intrigued how someone so supportive of the other party knows all about Sunak's inner sanctum and what happened in the lead up to the announcement - and of course can be sure it hasnt been enhanced or rehashed to suit the purpose of the party that he follows... but hey, that's politics, say something as fact often enough so people believe it).

When they start talking about specifics of policies - what do they intend to do with income tax rates and thresholds, how will they deal with benefits that should be based on household income not individual income, what will they do with corporation tax, CGT, IHT, how do they plan to resolve the NHS conundrum, what are they going to do about pensions inequality, how do we solve the homeless problem, how do we better care for our aged.... you know stuff that matters, not what Sunak said to some workers in Wales or why Starmer was at Gillingham for s scripted photo op with supporters...