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How Much Are We Missing Will Grigg

#21 User is offline   Brookie 

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Posted 18 April 2024 - 08:18 AM

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As opposed to "he scored at Watford" Quigley?


Put your dummy back in


Quigley has improved but he’s an impact player, not a starter.

As for Dallas and the absurd assertion that a full pre-season would have ensured he would have had a good season is without substantiation. I don’t know if he would have but he has had a full season to get fit and the evidence suggests he has failed in this and as a goal scorer.
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Posted 18 April 2024 - 08:27 AM

View PostBrookie, on 18 April 2024 - 08:18 AM, said:

Put your dummy back in


Quigley has improved but he’s an impact player, not a starter.

As for Dallas and the absurd assertion that a full pre-season would have ensured he would have had a good season is without substantiation. I don’t know if he would have but he has had a full season to get fit and the evidence suggests he has failed in this and as a goal scorer.



He’s not improved one iota

The miss at Gateshead a case in point

Dallas is 10 x Quigley

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Posted 18 April 2024 - 08:52 AM

View PostBrookie, on 18 April 2024 - 08:18 AM, said:

Put your dummy back in


Quigley has improved but he’s an impact player, not a starter.

As for Dallas and the absurd assertion that a full pre-season would have ensured he would have had a good season is without substantiation. I don’t know if he would have but he has had a full season to get fit and the evidence suggests he has failed in this and as a goal scorer.

Not saying Dallas is the answer to any issues we have but it’s remiss not to mention his goal scoring past in this league.
12 in 30 at the age of 21
23 in 48 at the age of 22
21 in 50 at the age of 23
Included in those vital goals and contributions in play off games for us and Moors.
Why wouldn’t he have scored a few for us if he’d signed for us say in early in June? Something went seriously wrong as he waited for then signed for Barnsley and got shipped out to Killie and Oldham.
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Posted 18 April 2024 - 11:31 AM

View PostSearch & Destroy, on 18 April 2024 - 08:27 AM, said:

He’s not improved one iota

The miss at Gateshead a case in point

Dallas is 10 x Quigley


Unfortunately, I can’t say Quigley has scored 10 times more goals than Dallas because 10x0=0. However, if Dallas manages just one goal in the remaining games then it’s a possibility.

I think the thing which people miss about Quigley is that in the main he has enabled Cook to manage Grigg throughout the season. By regularly bringing him off late in games and bringing Joe on has worked well and between the two of them they have scored well over 30 goals.
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Posted 18 April 2024 - 01:07 PM

View Postdtp, on 18 April 2024 - 11:31 AM, said:

Unfortunately, I can’t say Quigley has scored 10 times more goals than Dallas because 10x0=0. However, if Dallas manages just one goal in the remaining games then it’s a possibility.

I think the thing which people miss about Quigley is that in the main he has enabled Cook to manage Grigg throughout the season. By regularly bringing him off late in games and bringing Joe on has worked well and between the two of them they have scored well over 30 goals.





So, for absolute clarity you think JQ is a better footballer/striker/goalscorer than AD?

He’s useless and if the best thing you can say about him is that because he’s a body on the bench then we can bring Grigg off early then that speaks volumes

Did you see the miss against Gateshead?

Or maybe you’re chalking it up as an assist

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Posted 18 April 2024 - 01:31 PM

View PostSearch & Destroy, on 18 April 2024 - 01:07 PM, said:

So, for absolute clarity you think JQ is a better footballer/striker/goalscorer than AD?

He’s useless and if the best thing you can say about him is that because he’s a body on the bench then we can bring Grigg off early then that speaks volumes

Did you see the miss against Gateshead?

Or maybe you’re chalking it up as an assist


I saw numerous misses by a certain Andrew Dallas last season, didn’t you? I also believe Oldham fans have witnessed a fair few misses by their Andrew Dallas since his arrival after keeping the bench warm at Kilmarnock too.

Then, I’ve witnessed many many misses by premier league multi millionaires when watching on the TV.

There isn’t a striker in the world that has not missed the simplest of chances so why do you persist in picking out one by Quigley?

So, for clarity, Joe Quigley is a different type of forward to both Grigg and Dallas. Just like Dallas is a different type of forward to Grigg and Quigley. Then, believe it or not, Will Grigg is a different type of forward to Dallas and Quigley.

For next season we will want different options and I expect Cook will sign one or two forwards who are different types of forwards to Grigg and Quigley. However, I don’t expect Dallas to be one of them.
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Posted 18 April 2024 - 01:34 PM

View Postdtp, on 18 April 2024 - 01:31 PM, said:

I saw numerous misses by a certain Andrew Dallas last season, didn’t you? I also believe Oldham fans have witnessed a fair few misses by their Andrew Dallas since his arrival after keeping the bench warm at Kilmarnock too.

Then, I’ve witnessed many many misses by premier league multi millionaires when watching on the TV.

There isn’t a striker in the world that has not missed the simplest of chances so why do you persist in picking out one by Quigley?

So, for clarity, Joe Quigley is a different type of forward to both Grigg and Dallas. Just like Dallas is a different type of forward to Grigg and Quigley. Then, believe it or not, Will Grigg is a different type of forward to Dallas and Quigley.

For next season we will want different options and I expect Cook will sign one or two forwards who are different types of forwards to Grigg and Quigley. However, I don’t expect Dallas to be one of them.



So is he a better striker/footballer than Dallas?

I’ve only seen him once this season and he chipped in with 2 assists
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Posted 18 April 2024 - 01:38 PM

Ive not seen the Quigley miss myself but bet it wasn't any worse than the Macallum miss at Wrexham and he seems to be doing ok.
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Posted 18 April 2024 - 02:48 PM

View PostWalton Spireite, on 18 April 2024 - 06:17 AM, said:

If he's fit that is.


I don’t think fitness is the concern
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Posted 18 April 2024 - 02:54 PM

View PostErnie Ernie Ernie, on 18 April 2024 - 02:48 PM, said:

I don’t think fitness is the concern

Well if there was an issue other than fitness he wouldnt even be on the bench and coming on would he?
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Posted 18 April 2024 - 04:34 PM

View Postdtp, on 18 April 2024 - 01:31 PM, said:

I saw numerous misses by a certain Andrew Dallas last season, didn’t you? I also believe Oldham fans have witnessed a fair few misses by their Andrew Dallas since his arrival after keeping the bench warm at Kilmarnock too.

Then, I’ve witnessed many many misses by premier league multi millionaires when watching on the TV.

There isn’t a striker in the world that has not missed the simplest of chances so why do you persist in picking out one by Quigley?

So, for clarity, Joe Quigley is a different type of forward to both Grigg and Dallas. Just like Dallas is a different type of forward to Grigg and Quigley. Then, believe it or not, Will Grigg is a different type of forward to Dallas and Quigley.

For next season we will want different options and I expect Cook will sign one or two forwards who are different types of forwards to Grigg and Quigley. However, I don’t expect Dallas to be one of them.


I agree, Dallas isn't the answer.
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Posted 18 April 2024 - 05:12 PM

View PostSearch & Destroy, on 18 April 2024 - 01:34 PM, said:

So is he a better striker/footballer than Dallas?

I’ve only seen him once this season and he chipped in with 2 assists


So, if you’ve only seen Quigley once this season and he chipped in with 2 assists what’s your problem?

If you are seriously asking which one is the better striker/footballer then I say it is not fair to compare because they are totally different types of players as I inferred in my previous response. However, without doubt, Quigley has been the most productive striker of the two this season.
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Posted 18 April 2024 - 05:31 PM

View Postdtp, on 18 April 2024 - 05:12 PM, said:

So, if you’ve only seen Quigley once this season and he chipped in with 2 assists what’s your problem?

If you are seriously asking which one is the better striker/footballer then I say it is not fair to compare because they are totally different types of players as I inferred in my previous response. However, without doubt, Quigley has been the most productive striker of the two this season.

He’s talking about Dallas when he played against us for Oldham.
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Posted 18 April 2024 - 08:48 PM

View Posttrickytrevsfanclub, on 18 April 2024 - 05:31 PM, said:

He’s talking about Dallas when he played against us for Oldham.


I know that but his wording wasn’t specific.
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