[Bonnyman]

Goku, on 11 December 2024 - 03:08 PM, said:

Shocking! Do farmers actually do any work? All this time to swan about protesting, bone idle chuffs! The great unwashed, I?d call them. Hopefully not blocking any roads which could delay ambulances

I wasn?t that bothered till I looked at the fuel gauge on the range rover

[clarevoyant.]

Goku, on 11 December 2024 - 03:08 PM, said:

Shocking! Do farmers actually do any work? All this time to swan about protesting, bone idle chuffs! The great unwashed, I?d call them. Hopefully not blocking any roads which could delay ambulances

Looking at the immaculate state of the tractors around parliament, it looks as though none of them have had a run in with a cowpat.

This post has been edited by clarevoyant.: 11 December 2024 - 04:12 PM

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

I keep hearing withdrawing the farmers' tax break will mean the end to centuries of farming for some families.

But I then learn it wasn't introduced until the eighties by Thatcher - so how did those families cope until then?

Either way I'm off to see if those getting absolutely furious over peace marchers or JSO protestors blocking streets are doing the same now it's tractors...

[Bonnyman]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 11 December 2024 - 03:25 PM, said:

I keep hearing withdrawing the farmers' tax break will mean the end to centuries of farming for some families.

But I then learn it wasn't introduced until the eighties by Thatcher - so how did those families cope until then?

Either way I'm off to see if those getting absolutely furious over peace marchers or JSO protestors blocking streets are doing the same now it's tractors...

To be honest it?s a lot harder to beat up a 7ft farmer in a moving 20 tonne tractor than a dweeb who has superglued both hands to the tarmac

[Mr Mercury]

I?ve not noticed any of these legitimate farming protesters purposely blocking roads, preventing ambulances reaching the sick and injured or spitefully stoping people going about their legitimate business, neither have I seen them waving extremely questionable banners or shouting and chanting even more questionable slogans.
Good luck to them.

[calvin plummers socks]

Mr Mercury, on 11 December 2024 - 04:08 PM, said:

I?ve not noticed any of these legitimate farming protesters purposely blocking roads, preventing ambulances reaching the sick and injured or spitefully stoping people going about their legitimate business, neither have I seen them waving extremely questionable banners or shouting and chanting even more questionable slogans.
Good luck to them.

Probably because you?re not in London??.

[Wooden Spoon]

calvin plummers socks, on 11 December 2024 - 04:30 PM, said:

Probably because you?re not in London??.

Well I am in the capital, was in Whitechapel, Liverpool Street, St James among other places and funnily enough I didn?t see it either. Have you?

[Mr Mercury]

Wooden Spoon, on 11 December 2024 - 05:06 PM, said:

Well I am in the capital, was in Whitechapel, Liverpool Street, St James among other places and funnily enough I didn?t see it either. Have you?

By complete coincidence we were in London at the time of the first protest and we went up to a Westminster to offer a bit of brief support and also got talking to a farming cpl in a bar later in the day. What we saw was extremely good natured and well behaved.

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[Valley Blues]

Valley Blues, on 06 December 2024 - 05:00 PM, said:

Regarding yesterdays re-set and specifically the part relating to the addition of 13,000 extra police, I?ve not read anywhere how the exodus of current bobbies is going to be addressed first.

According to senior Federation members, the moral within the service is rock bottom and the numbers of experienced officers is falling at an alarming rate due to resignations. So is this 13,000 simply covering losses or are we actually going to see an increase in police officers?

Which leads onto the other part of the change in the police service. Every neighbourhood having a named and designated officer.

Sounds very similar to when Safer Neighbourhood policing was introduced, with every neighbourhood having a designated officer. 20 years ago. So not so much a change but a rehash of an old model.

It was reported that the Safer Neighbourhood model failed due to lack of police officers to fulfill the requirements of the role, a problem heavily and rightly linked to the Tories decimating police numbers.

But if the police are still losing officers at an alarming rate, is the plan actually going to get off the ground?

It?s ok and possibly justified for Labour to blame the Tories for the mess the police service is in but the Tories have gone now. We?re on the Labour watch.

Labour have been at the wheel for 4 months and their buzz statement is their actions are progressed at pace. Everything they speak about in interview includes the statement they are doing this, that and the other at pace.

If they haven?t addressed the issues within the police service at pace, I?m not sure the 13,000 will make a blind bit of difference and the rehash of the Safer Neighbourhood policing will be a non-starter.

More empty words or does it have legs?

Seems that Labour?s re-set announcement regarding bolstering the police by 13,000 isn?t quite adding up in the eyes of the police.

Funding for 13,000 new cops to be recruited yet Essex police are staring down the barrel of axing 200 due to budget constraints.

Maybe Cooper was using the same abacus that Rayner was using when working out how many new houses we need. Or don?t need.

https://www.bbc.co.u...es/c159qw2qd9do

This post has been edited by Valley Blues: 11 December 2024 - 06:51 PM

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Goku, on 11 December 2024 - 12:28 PM, said:

Another day of Bad-Enoch "making mincemeat" out of Starmer...

or not

The reaction - or lack of - from the opposition benches was the most interesting part of the whole, instantly turnoff-able, exchange.

Both they and, bizarrely, Starmer seemed almost confused by the sheer ineptitude of Badenoch's approach.

Using most of her questions to discuss migration when the government of which she'd been part had allowed more than a million arrivals? Regurgitating relatively niche accusations that'd failed to previously impact? Allowing the PM to reel off his achievements whilst DPP?

Again, the most appropriate word was 'amatuer'.

My guess? Boris Johnson will already be planning a return. His name will be immediately linked to the first winnable seat available. Welcomed by a Tory party haemorrhaging members and facing almost terminal decline. And should he so shamelessly re-enter Parliament, he'll portray himself as the only one capable of seeing off a Farage already comparing the Tories to the proverbial parrot.

Which, incongruously, will all be the best possible news for Labour.

Bookmark this post...

[isleaiw1]

I'm amazed that people care who is good at arguing who is good at PMQs, its not about words but actions. And as a former barrister and DPP Starmer is good at words. And so far ###### at actions...

But I'm sure that those who prefer words to actions will be happy.... lets hope there are enough of them in 4 years and 6 months if that is what you want...

[Snowflake McBedwetter]

Goku, on 11 December 2024 - 03:08 PM, said:

Shocking! Do farmers actually do any work? All this time to swan about protesting, bone idle chuffs! The great unwashed, I?d call them. Hopefully not blocking any roads which could delay ambulances

Farmers work form dawn til late in the day. Every day.

When they've gone, their departure cheered on by the gullible, cheered on they'll be replaced by 'megafarms', owned by corporations and hedge funds... and you'll be eating the same ultra processed chemical riddled Bunkum that's made the Americans such a healthy bunch.

[calvin plummers socks]

Snowflake McBedwetter, on 12 December 2024 - 12:11 AM, said:

Farmers work form dawn til late in the day. Every day.

When they've gone, their departure cheered on by the gullible, cheered on they'll be replaced by 'megafarms', owned by corporations and hedge funds... and you'll be eating the same ultra processed chemical riddled Bunkum that's made the Americans such a healthy bunch.

All hail the megafarms

[Johnnyspireite7]

Snowflake McBedwetter, on 12 December 2024 - 12:11 AM, said:

Farmers work form dawn til late in the day. Every day.

When they've gone, their departure cheered on by the gullible, cheered on they'll be replaced by 'megafarms', owned by corporations and hedge funds... and you'll be eating the same ultra processed chemical riddled Bunkum that's made the Americans such a healthy bunch.

And that's exactly what the flatulent bullfrog and his minions want to toady up to the orange buffoon and everyone has fallen for it.

[Goku]

Snowflake McBedwetter, on 12 December 2024 - 12:11 AM, said:

Farmers work form dawn til late in the day. Every day.

When they've gone, their departure cheered on by the gullible, cheered on they'll be replaced by 'megafarms', owned by corporations and hedge funds... and you'll be eating the same ultra processed chemical riddled Bunkum that's made the Americans such a healthy bunch.

If only we were part of a large conglomerate who regulated quality standards in things such as food and other goods

[calvin plummers socks]

Goku, on 11 December 2024 - 03:08 PM, said:

Shocking! Do farmers actually do any work? All this time to swan about protesting, bone idle chuffs! The great unwashed, I?d call them. Hopefully not blocking any roads which could delay ambulances

Apparently they did cause ambulance delays.
Just like Just Stop Oil.

One group wanting to preserve the planet - the other getting mardy about the ticket ones paying a small tax

[Mr Mercury]

Valley Blues, on 11 December 2024 - 06:48 PM, said:

Seems that Labour?s re-set announcement regarding bolstering the police by 13,000 isn?t quite adding up in the eyes of the police.

Funding for 13,000 new cops to be recruited yet Essex police are staring down the barrel of axing 200 due to budget constraints.

Maybe Cooper was using the same abacus that Rayner was using when working out how many new houses we need. Or don?t need.

https://www.bbc.co.u...es/c159qw2qd9do

Just seen the clip of Kemi skewering Stamer yesterday with his record of disaster at the DPP, you can see the I?ll hidden anger in his face, the almost..how dare you question me, I gave 5 yrs to law enforcement?the self centred idiot. All done with a twinkle in her eye whilst he seethes. Great to watch.

[Goku]

Today in Mr Mercury's fantasy world...

[Mr Mercury]

Goku, on 12 December 2024 - 09:29 AM, said:

Today in Mr Mercury's fantasy world...

You?re jesting mate, he?s like a rabbit in the headlights when anyone dares question him. Definitely Kemis day yesterday.
But I’m sure we’ll agree to differ.

This post has been edited by Mr Mercury: 12 December 2024 - 09:35 AM

[Goku]

Mr Mercury, on 12 December 2024 - 09:33 AM, said:

You?re jesting mate, he?s like a rabbit in the headlights when anyone dares question him. Definitely Kemis day yesterday.
But I?m sure we?ll agree to differ.

I really don't think it can be classed as her day when her entire line of questioning was based around immigration when her party failed miserably and pathetically to deal with that particular issue. KemiKaze Bad-Enoch must try harder, she's letting a man with zero charisma swat her away as if she was a fly atm. At least your idol De Pfeffel put on a show.