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  1. In Topic: General Election It Is Then...

    Today, 04:28 PM

     isleaiw1, on 27 May 2024 - 03:23 PM, said:

    As I said, I think giving structure and a sense of community to those who dont have it is a good thing. I dont think letting 16 years old vote is a good thing. Cant buy property (cant own property!), cant get married, encouraged to be in education or training... but can vote on the most serious matter that the company chooses..?

    Where are Labour's policies? They arent going to raise taxes or NI according to Reeves, but we are going to have new teachers, new coppers, more hospital appointments... and a new deal for workers which at least one union thinks is full of holes, and most employers seem not to be enamoured of.... and what else?? Definitely going for the election on the basis of "we arent the Tories and the only one who can win"... the leaflet from my local Labour candidate actually says that! Lots of critique of the current lot, bog all about what they will do, just wish lists, and we are the only ones who can beat the Tories...



    I thought this was about the so called national service and not labours policies.



    Never mind Ian
  2. In Topic: General Election It Is Then...

    Today, 12:01 PM

     isleaiw1, on 27 May 2024 - 09:45 AM, said:

    I think its an idea, and certainly better than giving the vote to 16 year olds. Where are Labour's ideas...? So far all I see is "we'll solve these complex problems by doing something pretty obvious that clearly others have tried before"

    And I think encouraging youngsters to do something to give them a structure, an interest in the world they live in is a good thing. Its not just military service, you have read that havent you...?



    I have yes, a few weekends doing unpaid service in the community with the the fire service etc


    Sounds a lot like the Duke of Edinburgh scheme but for 18 year olds.


    A load of nonsense- your not really suggesting this is a serious policy surely?
  3. In Topic: General Election It Is Then...

    Today, 07:47 AM

     isleaiw1, on 26 May 2024 - 08:45 PM, said:

    And that is the problem of being in power, come up with a good idea and its why didnt they do it before, cant trust them to implement it.

    Not defending one or the other just playing back what is said on here



    You think this is, at face value a good idea? Blimey
  4. In Topic: And Still It Goes On!

    Today, 07:42 AM

     isleaiw1, on 26 May 2024 - 01:15 PM, said:

    Fair share has no quota, it is about taking them until what they are running from ends. maybe it would make the world leaders a bit keener to resolve the base problems - which obvs dont bother you as its not affecting you and that is all that matters..

    Dont treat the symptoms, treat the cause.



    What about those economic migrants that aren?t fleeing some war torn country but are moving purely on the grounds of poverty?

     Search & Destroy, on 27 May 2024 - 07:21 AM, said:

    Doctors at it again in Sheffield over the weekend

    https://www.thestar....ospital-4643030



    Doctors?
  5. In Topic: General Election It Is Then...

    Yesterday, 07:43 PM

     mr. smith, on 26 May 2024 - 09:59 AM, said:

    700000 18yr old in uk, so if half opt for national service over uni/college that leaves 350000. so youd be increasing the uk military by 1/3. cost of housing, feeding, training (which will take more of your regulars away), problems of those that dont really want to be there, problems of those that shouldnt be there. will they be trained with weapons or just used for 'labour'.

    i think by & large when youre 18 you know whether you want a military career or not. why not use the 'new' money for the above to reward your fulltime military for their efforts (pay, conditions, post service help).

    its a desperate popularist roll of the dice by a man/party coming to the inevitable end.



    Some decide they want to join the forces, some I served with were offered a choice - borstal or junior leaders didn?t join by choice as such but thrives in the environment - however this is a poorly thought out idea.


    A desperate sound bite to appeal to the pensioners who see todays youth as lacking discipline and disrespectful


    This government had already run out of ideas and stopped leading/governing anyway - the last desperate attempt of the drowning man to cling onto some flotsa mm that?s drifting by.


    If it were a serious proposal it would have been done, or at least mentioned 18 months following Russias war in Ukraine and the need to accept anew reality and bolster the military - it wasn?t so that?s how serious a proposal this is

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