[DIFH]

Any ex pros on here ?

Why does referreeing not appeal to ex pros when job prospects would appear very limited on retirement.

[JonB]

Dave In Footie Heaven, on 05 April 2016 - 10:42 AM, said:

Any ex pros on here ?

Why does referreeing not appeal to ex pros when job prospects would appear very limited on retirement.

Well partly because even though they are ex pros they still need to work up from the bottom reffing Sunday league etc so takes years to get anywhere. Bearing in mind they are starting at a later age than most refs the chances of them reaching the pro game again as refs takes them up to an age where its potentially not worth it. There is no fast track process for example which is whats potentially needed. It seems like getting coaching badges and going that route is pushed more by the PFA, leagues etc.

This is a bit old now but an article with ex spireite Steve Baines who is still about the only player to have gone on to be a ref.

http://www.telegraph...he-whistle.html

There is also the fact this is probably only going to appeal to lower league players as the majority of prem\championship players probably dont need to worry about working that much post playing.

[firedodger]

Dave In Footie Heaven, on 05 April 2016 - 10:42 AM, said:

Any ex pros on here ?

Why does referreeing not appeal to ex pros when job prospects would appear very limited on retirement.

System may have changed now but Tony lormor started looking at reffing towards the end of his career, he had made a start officiating in non league circles. I think he gave up because he was told that because of his age he would never be able to get up to top flight standard, the age he retired from football, the years you needed to do at various levels and the maximum age you could be to start reffing in the premier league just didn't marry up.

[ronpowellsbutler]

Could be that having dished out stick for 20 years they don't want to take it themselves ?

[calvin plummers socks]

Refs course should in my opinion be a requirement for all Academy scholars

[azul]

Think the upper age limit (48?) has been scrapped due to age discrimination laws but I suppose anything much more than 50 and it starts to become impractical.

I suppose it might be worthwhile for a younger pro who drops out the game early in his twenties. Premiership list referees get a salary of about £40K + match fee, taking their pay up to £70/80K. Most fairly successful professional players wouldn't get out of bed for that even if a fast track was developed from them. An elite list of referees have also become 'full time" in the championship this season but referees not on these onlyl get varying level of match fees. There are far easier football job related to be had.

Also, just being an ex-pro doesn't mean you'd make a good referee, far from it, listen to some of the pundits for conformation

[newboldsteve]

Dave In Footie Heaven, on 05 April 2016 - 10:42 AM, said:

Any ex pros on here ?

Why does referreeing not appeal to ex pros when job prospects would appear very limited on retirement.

I personally don't think refs are that bad its not easy make a split second diction when you have 22 players lying and cheating. mabe if we punished the players for that it would mean less mistakes from refs

[Doughnut]

newboldsteve, on 06 April 2016 - 09:03 AM, said:

I personally don't think refs are that bad its not easy make a split second diction when you have 22 players lying and cheating. mabe if we punished the players for that it would mean less mistakes from refs

Spot on. If the players do their best to con the officials into making the wrong decision (and both teams are doing it) they shouldn't be surprised that every now and again the officials are conned into making the wrong decision. Punish cheats and one would expect occurrences would decrease. Whilst we're at it, get the pundits to label it for what it is ie 'cheating' instead of masquerading it as 'clever play' or some other description.

[Siberian Spireite]

newboldsteve, on 06 April 2016 - 09:03 AM, said:

I personally don't think refs are that bad its not easy make a split second diction when you have 22 players lying and cheating. mabe if we punished the players for that it would mean less mistakes from refs

Well said. I'd be very interested to read the numbers of people taking up reffing nowadays, and whether it has decreased over the years. I'm guessing it has.

The game at the top level will be refereed by video software within my lifetime, I reckon, though there may still be a human ref as a token presence.

[Jud]

newboldsteve, on 06 April 2016 - 09:03 AM, said:

I personally don't think refs are that bad its not easy make a split second diction when you have 22 players lying and cheating. mabe if we punished the players for that it would mean less mistakes from refs

With you on that, Steve. Honestly, it confuses me as to why anyone would want to become a ref and enjoy years of guaranteed abuse.

[The Rev.]

calvin plummers socks, on 05 April 2016 - 11:19 AM, said:

Refs course should in my opinion be a requirement for all Academy scholars

Absolutely agree CPS.The first and most essential requirement for any aspiring pro player should be that they are fully conversant with the laws of the game.

[Benno Spire]

Doughnut, on 06 April 2016 - 01:34 PM, said:

Spot on. If the players do their best to con the officials into making the wrong decision (and both teams are doing it) they shouldn't be surprised that every now and again the officials are conned into making the wrong decision. Punish cheats and one would expect occurrences would decrease. Whilst we're at it, get the pundits to label it for what it is ie 'cheating' instead of masquerading it as 'clever play' or some other description.

Disappointed to hear Michael Owen commentating on BT Sport last night saying that trying to deceive refs was part of the game and teams will do anything now to gain an advantage

[firedodger]

Benno Spire, on 07 April 2016 - 07:01 AM, said:

Disappointed to hear Michael Owen commentating on BT Sport last night saying that trying to deceive refs was part of the game and teams will do anything now to gain an advantage

Keane said the same thing on itv, he said he could understand why Marcelo went down clutching his face as that's the culture where he's from / plays. Football really ought to get its act together, what Marcelo pulled last night was blatant out and out cheating and he got away with it, I would like to see lengthy bans for that kind of play acting, and they should go without pay during the ban, send the money to the clubs chosen charity.

[Doughnut]

Benno Spire, on 07 April 2016 - 07:01 AM, said:

Disappointed to hear Michael Owen commentating on BT Sport last night saying that trying to deceive refs was part of the game and teams will do anything now to gain an advantage

It is disappointing. It's also really hypocritical when, during post-match tv interviews, the managers/first team coaches bleat about incorrect decisions made by officials. You can't have it both ways; if you're instructing your team or allowing your players to do their best to con the officials, you have to accept this could backfire against you if your opponents are doing likewise.

[warfey is a spireite]

Dave In Footie Heaven, on 05 April 2016 - 10:42 AM, said:

Any ex pros on here ?

Why does referreeing not appeal to ex pros when job prospects would appear very limited on retirement.

pros you say you could try the white horse , WYCOMBE , oh you have ,

[eddymelt]

warfey is a spireite, on 07 April 2016 - 01:02 PM, said:

pros you say you could try the white horse , WYCOMBE , oh you have ,

Haha! I went to Uni in Wycombe, and know exactly what you mean Warfey!! :-D

Other than what you mentioned on Friday lunchtimes, it was a good little boozer - a bit like the Green Room in it's HeyDay...

[warfey is a spireite]

eddymelt, on 07 April 2016 - 01:44 PM, said:

Haha! I went to Uni in Wycombe, and know exactly what you mean Warfey!! :-D

Other than what you mentioned on Friday lunchtimes, it was a good little boozer - a bit like the Green Room in it's HeyDay...

BEEN IN THERE A COUPLE OF TIMES EDDY , SATURDAYS MATCH DAYS , STUNNERS TOO NOT DOGS ,ASK DAVE IN FOOTIE HEAVEN IF YOU KNOW HIM ASK HIM WHATEVERS BEHIND THEM CURTAINS ???