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Dave Allen We Could Do This Play Off Position

#1 User is offline   warfey is a spireite 

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Posted 28 December 2014 - 07:04 PM

you wanted us in 5 yr in championship well we have a good realistic chance with this squad if youll only push the boat out and get quality striker , youll benefit by extra fans , this could with abit of luck be our most successful season in years,this time were so near
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Posted 28 December 2014 - 07:14 PM

But according to this board Dave we are selling Lee Morsy Ryan and Doyle
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Posted 28 December 2014 - 07:18 PM

View Postmartatcross, on 28 December 2014 - 07:14 PM, said:

But according to this board Dave we are selling Lee Morsy Ryan and Doyle

no weve to keep this squad all of them with a quality striker when gnando went off we didnt even have a striker to replace him this will end of day cost us
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Posted 28 December 2014 - 08:01 PM

View Postwarfey is a spireite, on 28 December 2014 - 07:04 PM, said:

you wanted us in 5 yr in championship well we have a good realistic chance with this squad if youll only push the boat out and get quality striker , youll benefit by extra fans , this could with abit of luck be our most successful season in years,this time were so near



So you asked where the money had gone when we had lost a million, paying for the squad we have etc. How much more do you want him to push the boat out to get this quality striker? If he's quality I would assume he will be under contract, so how much do you advocate we pay for the fee and then in wages?
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Posted 28 December 2014 - 08:04 PM

View Postwarfey is a spireite, on 28 December 2014 - 07:04 PM, said:

you wanted us in 5 yr in championship well we have a good realistic chance with this squad if youll only push the boat out and get quality striker , youll benefit by extra fans , this could with abit of luck be our most successful season in years,this time were so near

I,m with you on this but with no money this season it won't happen
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Posted 28 December 2014 - 08:09 PM

I wont settle until i see us get a striker who can score 20 before the turn of the new year.
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Posted 28 December 2014 - 08:25 PM

Making the play offs is one things winning them is another!

Scraping 6, which would be the most likely scenario of any, guarantees nothing in the lottery of the play offs. The team that finished top in the PO's goes up, more than any other position.

This post has been edited by Sammy Spireite: 28 December 2014 - 08:25 PM

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Posted 28 December 2014 - 09:46 PM

View Postwarfey is a spireite, on 28 December 2014 - 07:18 PM, said:

no weve to keep this squad all of them with a quality striker when gnando went off we didnt even have a striker to replace him this will end of day cost us



Agreed.
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Posted 28 December 2014 - 09:51 PM

If we made the PO's even if we lost it would do the future of the Club no arm. The gates would should be kept over the 7000 mark to the end of the season, and the interest for a promotion push next season would be high and surely this would mean a boost in ST sales.
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Posted 28 December 2014 - 10:03 PM

View PostSammy Spireite, on 28 December 2014 - 08:25 PM, said:

Making the play offs is one things winning them is another!

Scraping 6, which would be the most likely scenario of any, guarantees nothing in the lottery of the play offs. The team that finished top in the PO's goes up, more than any other position.

I would like to see the stats on that because it doesn't feel that way

Whatever, highlighted bit is a major contradiction
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Posted 28 December 2014 - 11:53 PM

Currently we are averaging just over 7000 which is 9th best in our league and around 1500 above teams in 12th position

It is hard to see how we move up a level without investment in the squad. Who would believe thar the current team would be playing well without our two main midfielders?

I would like to see the team improved but not really sure who is out there much better than what we've got.

Clearly we have no cash and any player investment must come from lower rather than higher leagues if we are to afford anyone and hopefully develop them for onward sale.

I seriously doubt Dave Allen is going to fund a new striker. He is more likely to sanction the spending of monies recouped from the sale of Ryan or Doyle if offers come in during January. In the meantime we lie 7th in the league and I would say it's a fair reflection of where we currently are as a team.
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Posted 29 December 2014 - 12:11 AM

View Postazul, on 28 December 2014 - 10:03 PM, said:

I would like to see the stats on that because it doesn't feel that way

Whatever, highlighted bit is a major contradiction

How is it?

Exit: found this, but this is based on the championship play offs only:

http://www.bbc.co.uk...otball/22437083

But the first table says 35% of the teams that topped the play off places went up, more than any other position.

My "lottery" comment was more aimed at people like warfey who seemingly assume that making the plau offs automatically means we'lol win them and gain promotion.

IF we did make them, and not go up, I doubt attendances would increase massively, certainly not enough to warrant the "chuck money at it" approach some are calling for.

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Posted 29 December 2014 - 01:18 AM

View Postwarfey is a spireite, on 28 December 2014 - 07:04 PM, said:

you wanted us in 5 yr in championship well we have a good realistic chance with this squad if youll only push the boat out and get quality striker , youll benefit by extra fans , this could with abit of luck be our most successful season in years,this time were so near


Another expert in spending other people's money...

And where does it leave Uncle Dave and the club if it doesn't come off?
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Posted 29 December 2014 - 04:08 AM

View Postwarfey is a spireite, on 28 December 2014 - 07:04 PM, said:

you wanted us in 5 yr in championship well we have a good realistic chance with this squad if youll only push the boat out and get quality striker , youll benefit by extra fans , this could with abit of luck be our most successful season in years,this time were so near



First and foremost we need the debt reduced and for the club to trade in the black. Otherwise its going to end in tears.
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Posted 29 December 2014 - 08:18 AM

View Posta kick in the balls, on 29 December 2014 - 04:08 AM, said:

First and foremost we need the debt reduced and for the club to trade in the black. Otherwise its going to end in tears.

success breeds success , were not far off with this squad ,surely its worth going for it
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Posted 29 December 2014 - 08:28 AM

View Postwarfey is a spireite, on 29 December 2014 - 08:18 AM, said:

success breeds success , were not far off with this squad ,surely its worth going for it


As above how much therefore would you want to pay for a striker and how much in wages would you want to pay on top?
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Posted 29 December 2014 - 08:30 AM

View Postwarfey is a spireite, on 29 December 2014 - 08:18 AM, said:

success breeds success , were not far off with this squad ,surely its worth going for it


Not in the footballing world, how much do you realistically expect Mr Allen to pump into our team. You love our club as do I and every member of this board, Dave Allen doesn't to him we are an investment. It is easy to spout what should be done with someone else's money, it really is time people had a reality check.
We would all love Mr Allen to give Cooky Five Million to buy x,y and z however we would quickly become Spireite fc or similar as we would have gone under had to rename ourselves and start again. We are currently running at a loss, averaging around 7k at home, we are as big as we're going to be. Unrealistic targets and aspirations is all I am reading, we are were we are, were as big as were realistically going to be.
We have come a long way since Mr Allen has been involved, let's learn to appreciate that and where we are now compared to where we were six seasons ago. If I am honest I am amazed we still have a club with what we as fans have been through.
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Posted 29 December 2014 - 08:50 AM

View Postwarfey is a spireite, on 29 December 2014 - 08:18 AM, said:

success breeds success , were not far off with this squad ,surely its worth going for it

With who's money would you go for it? How would you recoup this money?
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Posted 29 December 2014 - 09:00 AM

If we can keep together what we've got then 6th place isn't an impossible dream.
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Posted 29 December 2014 - 09:03 AM

View Posta kick in the balls, on 29 December 2014 - 08:50 AM, said:

With who's money would you go for it? How would you recoup this money?

if we let a midfielder go ,i felt with decent frontman wed have had that game won at cov ,we see jones and tendai bombing crosses in doyley wont get his head on them , like dave said get in play offs ok we lose we lose ,give it a go ,
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