[Town_Fan]

Under what mandate from the fans did CFSS decide to secure loans against the club's main asset? Basically debenturing it in the same way Darren Brown did.

What plans are in place if a person who has funds debentured against the ground wants their money back plus interest?

With your membership down to about the 1000 mark i.e. having lost 70% of your membership over the last couple of years or so, do you consider yourselves to be truly representative of the fans?

What afforts, if any, are being put in place to secure the clubs future in the way of inward investment (not loans)?

[Town_Fan]

Silence is golden I guess.

Still no point in answering these questions when articles about AFC Telford are all that required for the sheep to read and think everything is rosy in the garden. Still congrats to AFC Telford with their progression they should have cured Cancer in the next 5 years.

[Lorraine]

Town_Fan, on Sep 6 2005, 04:46 PM, said:

Silence is golden I guess.

Still no point in answering these questions when articles about AFC Telford are all that required for the sheep to read and think everything is rosy in the garden. Still congrats to AFC Telford with their progression they should have cured Cancer in the next 5 years.
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[fishini]

spireloz, on Sep 6 2005, 05:12 PM, said:

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Did you expect anything else other than the answer you have recieved?

[Lorraine]

fishini, on Sep 6 2005, 06:01 PM, said:

Did you expect anything else other than the answer you have recieved?
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You highlighted the wrong box Fishini, mine was blank as I was speechless. Unusual for me I know but there you go..

[Wooden Spoon]

Town_Fan, on Aug 21 2005, 01:53 PM, said:

What afforts, if any, are being put in place to secure the clubs future in the way of inward investment (not loans)?
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non what so ever. that was easy wasnt it!!!!!!


fund raising consists of the fans, mark jones for example, raising the money themselves, then giving it to cfss, who then, with much fanfare give it to cfc. or meetings with "community groups", see the east midlands co-op thing.or going to other clubs telling them how great the fans trust is, while saltergate falls down around us, and the new ground is no nearer,5 years after cfss took control

secondly, "they" dont (IMO) want any inward investment. this would mean an outsider would have some clout(cash talks after all), and cfss would soon be found out. and the current board(who i thank for stabilising the club) would be expected to convert some loans into shares, losing 6% interest in the process.

"they" have one plan, and that is someone will sort out the new ground for them.and this will,as if by magic, sort out the financial mess left by you know who.

when is the feb anouncement regarding our former chairman to be made public?

when will we put in the picture regarding the month long talks(started,allegedly in january) between macalpine and the land owner.

[Webster]

When is the feb anouncement regarding our former chairman to be made public?

That ones out of the CFSS or the Clubs hands more the Crown Prosection Service i think

[Wooden Spoon]

Mark Jones, on Sep 8 2005, 10:15 AM, said:

Actually death I am not involved anymore with fundraising or the volunteer group so using me as an example may not add to your argument, sorry matey!
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more is the pity. shame someone with your enthusiasm isnt more involved.

[Cartman]

CFSS with there dwindling membership haven't really got a mandate to do anything anymore

[howardb]

Cartman, on Sep 14 2005, 07:10 PM, said:

CFSS with there dwindling membership haven't really got a mandate to do anything anymore
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So what's the alternative

[Aspire_webby]

howardb, on Sep 23 2005, 11:51 AM, said:

So what's the alternative
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CFSS Don't need a mandate any more than Norton Lea did - they own the club whether membership is 10 or 10,000

[Town_Fan]

Aspire_webby, on Sep 23 2005, 12:58 PM, said:

CFSS Don't need a mandate any more than Norton Lea did - they own the club whether membership is 10 or 10,000
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I think you will find CFSS are responsible to the CFSS members which they ride roughshod over making decisions like debenturing the ground.

CFC is owned by "the fans" as Phil Tooley gloriously opined on Look North, yet isnt it funny how little the fans have any say in anything.

[Town_Fan]

howardb, on Sep 23 2005, 12:51 PM, said:

So what's the alternative
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CFSS main priority now should be the marketing of the club with the intention of selling it on to whoever can move it forward in a professional manner.

[dannypearson]

Town_Fan, on Sep 23 2005, 01:04 PM, said:

I think you will find CFSS are responsible to the CFSS members which they ride roughshod over making decisions like debenturing the ground.

CFC is owned by "the fans" as Phil Tooley gloriously opined on Look North, yet isnt it funny how little the fans have any say in anything.
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The ones that are still CFSS member's get to a chance to have what they want by voting the same / a new board in the election's.

[dannypearson]

Town_Fan, on Sep 23 2005, 01:05 PM, said:

CFSS main priority now should be the marketing of the club with the intention of selling it on to whoever can move it forward in a professional manner.
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Who do you propose we try and sell it to?

I can't see a queue forming to take over

[Town_Fan]

dannypearson, on Sep 23 2005, 01:38 PM, said:

Who do you propose we try and sell it to?

I can't see a queue forming to take over
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There wont be a queue whilst CFSS dont market the club and actively look for investment. Its like Tesco's new phone service if they didnt let people know about it who would queue up to get it? Maybe if CFSS stopped showing the club in the form of a victim constantly there might be a bit more interest.

CFSS dont want to sell though do they? They are happy to potter along debenturing the ground with no policies to protect the club if anyone wants their money back. Showing the club as victim keeps CFSS in control, well control of the debt anyway.

[dannypearson]

Town_Fan, on Sep 23 2005, 01:46 PM, said:

There wont be a queue whilst CFSS dont market the club and actively look for investment. Its like Tesco's new phone service if they didnt let people know about it who would queue up to get it? Maybe if CFSS stopped showing the club in the form of a victim constantly there might be a bit more interest.

CFSS dont want to sell though do they? They are happy to potter along debenturing the ground with no policies to protect the club if anyone wants their money back. Showing the club as victim keeps CFSS in control, well control of the debt anyway.
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Did ken Bates start touting Chelsea around before Abramovic came along? No.

If any-one wants to invest in a football club they will do so off there own back, no-body will take any notice if CFSS say please buy the club. That's the way footy works.

[Town_Fan]

dannypearson, on Sep 23 2005, 01:56 PM, said:

Did ken Bates start touting Chelsea around before Abramovic came along?  No.

If any-one wants to invest in a football club they will do so off there own back, no-body will take any notice if CFSS say please buy the club.  That's the way footy works.
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Disagree 100%

[InkySpireite]

dannypearson, on Sep 23 2005, 01:56 PM, said:

Did ken Bates start touting Chelsea around before Abramovic came along?  No.

If any-one wants to invest in a football club they will do so off there own back, no-body will take any notice if CFSS say please buy the club.  That's the way footy works.
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Wasn't an appeal for investors made anyway?

And I'm sure CFSS have said that they will move aside if someone wants to invest, and take CFC forward.