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Dave Allen - I Do Not Accept Any Criticism At All Peak FM interview

#121 User is offline   Humpalumpa 

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Posted 28 December 2018 - 05:56 PM

The Solihull team was the type of team I was expecting to see built by MA.

Tall, athletic, energetic and prepared to get stuck in and battle.

They appear to have recruited well this season given they struggled last season finishing in 18th, all this on very small crowds of less than 800.
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Posted 28 December 2018 - 06:01 PM

View PostHumpalumpa, on 28 December 2018 - 05:56 PM, said:

The Solihull team was the type of team I was expecting to see built by MA.

Tall, athletic, energetic and prepared to get stuck in and battle.

They appear to have recruited well this season given they struggled last season finishing in 18th, all this on very small crowds of less than 800.


I was impressed by them and wouldn't be unhappy if we got Tim Flowers on a performance related deal.

Then again I was impressed by Barnet in the final game of last season...
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Posted 28 December 2018 - 06:06 PM

View PostHumpalumpa, on 28 December 2018 - 05:56 PM, said:

The Solihull team was the type of team I was expecting to see built by MA.

Tall, athletic, energetic and prepared to get stuck in and battle.

They appear to have recruited well this season given they struggled last season finishing in 18th, all this on very small crowds of less than 800.

Same here but I’m not sure I’d want another stab at that kind of footy.

Trouble is as soon as it goes wrong people will moan at the style of play and a few will never accept it
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Posted 28 December 2018 - 06:08 PM

View Posterniemossity, on 28 December 2018 - 04:33 PM, said:

Unfortunately the club can’t “lay down its footballing vision “ because the people running the club know eff all about in football. Fact. Proven.
We are not ever gonna get close to appointing the right manager until these clowns have nothing to do with it. And I include Warner and Croot.
The root of all our troubles both on and off the pitch is clear and obvious. The FA should be able to perform the “fit and proper” test retrospectively because these @rses should not be let within a million miles of a football club.

Totally agree. Well said.
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Posted 28 December 2018 - 06:16 PM

View Posterniemossity, on 28 December 2018 - 04:33 PM, said:

Unfortunately the club can’t “lay down its footballing vision “ because the people running the club know eff all about football. Fact. Proven.
We are not ever gonna get close to appointing the right manager until these clowns have nothing to do with it. And I include Warner and Croot.
The root of all our troubles both on and off the pitch is clear and obvious. The FA should be able to perform the “fit and proper” test retrospectively because these @rses should not be let within a million miles of a football club.

Fully agree.
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Posted 28 December 2018 - 06:19 PM

Money is The Croot of all evil
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Posted 28 December 2018 - 07:14 PM

Mike Warner has been a board member since before Brown.His silences appear to be deafening.Mr Croot seems to appear among "ordinary fans" when its to his benefit.His silence his deafening aswell.

Why?
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Posted 28 December 2018 - 08:36 PM

View Posttomjoad, on 28 December 2018 - 07:14 PM, said:

Mike Warner has been a board member since before Brown.His silences appear to be deafening.Mr Croot seems to appear among "ordinary fans" when its to his benefit.His silence his deafening aswell.

Why?

Foreva a Spireite wil be swooning for you when he reads this! :lol:
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Posted 28 December 2018 - 08:46 PM

View PostMr Mercury, on 28 December 2018 - 08:36 PM, said:

Foreva a Spireite wil be swooning for you when he reads this! :lol:

Love it! At last people starting to realise lol
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Posted 28 December 2018 - 08:56 PM

View PostMr Mercury, on 28 December 2018 - 08:36 PM, said:

Foreva a Spireite wil be swooning for you when he reads this! :lol:

Sent u a pm

View PostMr Mercury, on 28 December 2018 - 08:36 PM, said:

Foreva a Spireite wil be swooning for you when he reads this! :lol:

Sent u a pm
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Posted 28 December 2018 - 09:36 PM

View Postmoondog, on 28 December 2018 - 11:49 AM, said:

Hopefully the Martin Allen experience should have brought DA down to earth and made him realise he hasn't got the midas touch when it comes to choosing managers.

However what he should have done and I believe didn't, because of the above, which is a repeated mistake this club has made time over, is build in a minimum performance clause into the managers contract so he could be released if it wasn't met e.g. top half of table at the half way point of the season. This of course would need to be balanced so a manager significantly over achieving the minimum target gets rewarded which should be self financing.

If a manager taking on a job and agreeing a playing budget can't agree to this then he hasn't passed the interview in my book.

I put this point to Graham Bean last week asking if we did need to change managers then I believe this has to be the way forward, he didn't disagree.

I think being in a relegation place from 20 games in should be a sackable offence without compensation. Any manager given a decent budget should have the confidence to accept it.
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Posted 28 December 2018 - 09:53 PM

View PostSpire-Power, on 28 December 2018 - 09:36 PM, said:

I think being in a relegation place from 20 games in should be a sackable offence without compensation. Any manager given a decent budget should have the confidence to accept it.


But they don't as the club aren't willing to structure the contract that way and when was the last time a manager resigned because he had accepted he had failed ?
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Posted 28 December 2018 - 10:06 PM

View Postmoondog, on 28 December 2018 - 09:53 PM, said:

But they don't as the club aren't willing to structure the contract that way and when was the last time a manager resigned because he had accepted he had failed ?

Didn’t MA write in his recent Daily Mail piece that a L2 club was offering c.£30k pa for a manager’s post with no fixed term?
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Posted 28 December 2018 - 10:10 PM

View Post60s 70s Spireite, on 28 December 2018 - 10:06 PM, said:

Didn’t MA write in his recent Daily Mail piece that a L2 club was offering c.£30k pa for a manager’s post with no fixed term?


Yes here

https://mol.im/a/6525429

Whilst also recently saying there ain't anybody better than me

https://www.bbc.co.u...s/play/p06v1kq4
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Posted 28 December 2018 - 10:14 PM

View PostMr Mercury, on 28 December 2018 - 08:36 PM, said:

Foreva a Spireite wil be swooning for you when he reads this! :lol:


If ever the club get on an even keel and get back to the top of the league Crooty will be mixing it with the great unwashed, going round the pub hand shaking the fans etc
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Posted 28 December 2018 - 11:09 PM

View PostErnie Ernie Ernie, on 28 December 2018 - 10:14 PM, said:

If ever the club get on an even keel and get back to the top of the league Crooty will be mixing it with the great unwashed, going round the pub hand shaking the fans etc

Im sure he will and still be people shaking his hand too
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Posted 09 January 2019 - 06:46 PM

View Postmoondog, on 28 December 2018 - 11:49 AM, said:

Hopefully the Martin Allen experience should have brought DA down to earth and made him realise he hasn't got the midas touch when it comes to choosing managers.

However what he should have done and I believe didn't, because of the above, which is a repeated mistake this club has made time over, is build in a minimum performance clause into the managers contract so he could be released if it wasn't met e.g. top half of table at the half way point of the season. This of course would need to be balanced so a manager significantly over achieving the minimum target gets rewarded which should be self financing.

If a manager taking on a job and agreeing a playing budget can't agree to this then he hasn't passed the interview in my book.

I put this point to Graham Bean last week asking if we did need to change managers then I believe this has to be the way forward, he didn't disagree.



Or dear another lesson not learned going by Sheridan's comments in today's Peak FM interview "I don't think Dave has given me this contract to stay in this league"
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Posted 09 January 2019 - 07:12 PM

View Postmoondog, on 09 January 2019 - 06:46 PM, said:

Or dear another lesson not learned going by Sheridan's comments in today's Peak FM interview "I don't think Dave has given me this contract to stay in this league"


I don't follow...
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Posted 09 January 2019 - 08:13 PM

View PostWestbars Spireite, on 09 January 2019 - 07:12 PM, said:

I don't follow...


No failure/minimum achievement clause
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Posted 09 January 2019 - 08:14 PM

View Postmoondog, on 09 January 2019 - 08:13 PM, said:

No failure/minimum achievement clause


That'll be because DA doesn't do failure ;)
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