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Eid Mubarak to all my brother and sister Spireites

[isleaiw1]

Eid Mubarak, CPS, ignore the haters, its an important date for many people and i wouldnt expect someone else to ignore xmas because its not their faith....

Was lovely watching my neighbours and near neighbours with kids all in their finery heading out to celebrate about 6.30 last night...

[calvin plummers socks]

 isleaiw1, on 10 April 2024 - 03:27 PM, said:

Eid Mubarak, CPS, ignore the haters, its an important date for many people and i wouldnt expect someone else to ignore xmas because its not their faith....

Was lovely watching my neighbours and near neighbours with kids all in their finery heading out to celebrate about 6.30 last night...

Thank you

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

My work means I sometimes visit Muslim households.

And I've always been touched by the way they, as part of their culture, make visitors feel welcome.

To the point of, on one occasion, inviting me to join their families' Eid celebrations (which I can only compare to Xmas).

Ironic that a sad minority are so bitterly unwelcoming to them...

[Misnomer]

 isleaiw1, on 10 April 2024 - 03:27 PM, said:

Eid Mubarak, CPS, ignore the haters, its an important date for many people and i wouldnt expect someone else to ignore xmas because its not their faith....

Was lovely watching my neighbours and near neighbours with kids all in their finery heading out to celebrate about 6.30 last night...

😂😂😂😂

[Vivo]

 The Earl of Chesterfield, on 10 April 2024 - 05:38 PM, said:

My work means I sometimes visit Muslim households.

And I've always been touched by the way they, as part of their culture, make visitors feel welcome.

To the point of, on one occasion, inviting me to join their families' Eid celebrations (which I can only compare to Xmas).

Ironic that a sad minority are so bitterly unwelcoming to them...

I have worked in quite a few countries during my career in the oil and gas industry. My experiences gave me the same impression as you Chris, but not just with muslim people. I found the same with Chinese, Singaporeans, Germans, Vietnamese, Americans, Japanese, Brazilians etc. So I feel it doesn’t matter what colour or religion you are, the vast majority of all people are really nice, pleasant and friendly. Of course there will always be the minority of “bad people” in every society. We should keep re-enforcing this sort of message because the media these days don’t dwell on positive news that much anymore.

[isleaiw1]

 Misnomer, on 10 April 2024 - 08:34 PM, said:

What sentiment is that, exactly? We're not Muslim , mate; it's absolutely nothing to do with anyone who isn't Muslim

I'm not muslim but its absolutely something to do with me, so that I recognise the importance to my colleagues at work, so that I appreciate the challenges of ramadan, and so they convey the same magnanimity to me when its Xmas.


I think you have probably summed up your issues in one sentence. maybe get some D&I training before you go in front of whoever it is you "educate" then....

[isleaiw1]

 Misnomer, on 10 April 2024 - 09:31 PM, said:

No, mate; you've summed up yourself. Are you Muslim? No. So, it's absolutely nothing to do with you. Don't you get that? You can't celebrate it if you aren't Muslim, no matter how hard you want it to be the case....mind boggling ignorance.

I can help others to celebrate, in the same way they wish me Merry Christmas. I can be aware of their calendar and recognise their importance to them.

I'm not going to celebrate it, I dont "celebrate" any religious festival (although we do presents and have fun at christmas as that is tradition)

The ignorance is thinking that because its not your thing, its not something to recognise... so you win that one. And I guess with that level of ignorance, your views on me are irrelevant to me as not worth worrying about.

[isleaiw1]

 Misnomer, on 10 April 2024 - 09:49 PM, said:

You give yourself a pat on the back, you deserve it. Did you contact Sadiq about the Christmas paraphernalia around London? Yer know, with you not being ignorant to everything....cos, he seemed to forget it was Christmas, and called it....'happy holidays'.... I'm guessing you work with Christians, yeah?

I work with many religions. We generally refer to it as "holidays" as we are owned by an asian organisation, and they are generally not Christian. No problem to me. Given about 40% of London is Christian its easy to argue that calling it happy holidays is aimed at the majority (I rarely support Khan as I am no fan... but if you look at the facts and not the emotion, why not?)

I say happy christmas to my broadly christian white colleagues, and happy holidays to those who dont really celebrate but join in.