turrhall, on 29 September 2021 - 01:35 PM, said:
I believe that the murder rate is worse for women than trans people in England and Wales - 1 in 160,000 vs 1 in 200,000-500,000, but as no-one actually knows how many trans people there are in this country, and there's sometimes no method of recording those murdered as trans, this could be higher.
Domestic abuse rates are higher for trans people than women though (30-50% vs 7.5%), as is homelessness (25% vs 14%).
48% of trans people have attempted suicide at some point, vs 8% of women.
"And yep, it doesn't make me more right. But then ... your views don't make you more right either. Do they?" - no, that's what I was getting at, we both have our thoughts on this. I'm no more right for the same reasons.
"I've answered your questions. Could you do me the courtesy of answering mine about the rights of my Muslim and Jewish sisters? Please." - I have, trans women are women.
OK thanks for answering that. I think you did say that earlier and I missed it. However, you can pretty much put your pension on the fact that the Muslim and Jewish communities do not, in general, agree that transwomen are women.
Anyway, we're not talking about men's and women's spaces are we? We're talking about SINGLE SEX spaces. My toilets are for female people only; that includes women and transmen (who are natal females). It does not include transwomen, who are male.
Do you actually believe that a male can become female, ie actually change their sex, rather than just their 'gender identity'? If so, what medical evidence do you have to support that?
This post has been edited by stevie_b: 29 September 2021 - 02:24 PM