[calvin plummers socks]

 Holmesc1, on 24 April 2024 - 04:59 PM, said:

If thats the case why did they let macclesfield enter as well as teams with 3g pitches and maybe questionable ground standards

That’s not the case though - 3G (although they aren’t actually 3G anymore) pitches aren’t currently allowed in the EFL……

[calvin plummers socks]

 Holmesc1, on 24 April 2024 - 05:02 PM, said:

Known the efl probably southend would have been allowed in whos takeover has not gone through yet fully. The efl allowed macclesfield in who had serious financial issues

Did Macclesfield have serious financial difficulties in 2017?
If they did then the EFl are possibly making a good decision now about Gateshead as they (Macclesfield) went busy a couple of years after?

[Holmesc1]

calvin plummers socks, on 24 April 2024 - 06:03 PM, said:

Did Macclesfield have serious financial difficulties in 2017?
If they did then the EFl are possibly making a good decision now about Gateshead as they (Macclesfield) went busy a couple of years after?

Gateshead have not got serious finanacial issues, macclesfield did when promoted and only lasted 2 seasons in the efl. No one is questioning gatesheads financial positoon

[Holmesc1]

Osborne again, on 24 April 2024 - 05:21 PM, said:

With a bit of luck they'll ban clubs with three sided grounds next, but joking apart, whether it be the premier league, the EFL or the National League, why can't there be fairness in every case. I know it may be asking a lot but we have Forest and Everton losing points while others carry on regardless, Southend being allowed to carry on even though they've had more takeover hiccups than there were Rocky films and Gateshead banned from taking place in the playoffs because they're not wanted in the EFL. These bodies have made the rules, so stick to them for all, not the few.

Would be intresting to know how many efl clubs have iffy leases on stadiums think thats my biggest gripe, yes i know rules dont apply to existing clubs but they should be so any clubs who dont have a ten year lease or more have say 2 year to get one or are demoted out the league.

[azul]

 Holmesc1, on 25 April 2024 - 04:53 AM, said:

Would be intresting to know how many efl clubs have iffy leases on stadiums think thats my biggest gripe, yes i know rules dont apply to existing clubs but they should be so any clubs who dont have a ten year lease or more have say 2 year to get one or are demoted out the league.

I wouldn’t be surprised to find out there is an element that they don’t want poorly supported clubs like Gateshead weakening the league any further so probably didn’t give them any benefit of the doubt. As far as your suggestion about demotion, that just smacks of bitterness and anyway it is easier to prevent a promotion than sanction a relegation. I’d expect measures like that would require EFL clubs voting on it - another case of turkeys voting for Christmas.

While were are on the subject why are Gateshead so poorly supported when the likes of South Shields get very respectable attendances and came from absolutely nowhere. I know Gateshead is just across the river from Newcastle but South Shields is hardly remote. Does South Shields have more identity than Gateshead?

[Geordieblue]

 azul, on 25 April 2024 - 08:20 AM, said:

I wouldn’t be surprised to find out there is an element that they don’t want poorly supported clubs like Gateshead weakening the league any further so probably didn’t give them any benefit of the doubt. As far as your suggestion about demotion, that just smacks of bitterness and anyway it is easier to prevent a promotion than sanction a relegation. I’d expect measures like that would require EFL clubs voting on it - another case of turkeys voting for Christmas.

While were are on the subject why are Gateshead so poorly supported when the likes of South Shields get very respectable attendances and came from absolutely nowhere. I know Gateshead is just across the river from Newcastle but South Shields is hardly remote. Does South Shields have more identity than Gateshead?

Yes South Shields is further down the road and not seen as part of Newcastle.

[Sammy Spireite]

 Holmesc1, on 25 April 2024 - 04:53 AM, said:

Would be intresting to know how many efl clubs have iffy leases on stadiums think thats my biggest gripe, yes i know rules dont apply to existing clubs but they should be so any clubs who dont have a ten year lease or more have say 2 year to get one or are demoted out the league.

I'd imagine the majority are owned by the club, as our is, so its not an issue.

[gordon_brittas]

 Geordieblue, on 25 April 2024 - 09:07 AM, said:

Yes South Shields is further down the road and not seen as part of Newcastle.

South Shields certainly has the potential and catchment area to maintain a decent League 2 supported club.

This post has been edited by gordon_brittas: 25 April 2024 - 11:20 AM

[JonB]

 gordon_brittas, on 25 April 2024 - 11:19 AM, said:

South Shields certainly has the potential and catchment area to maintain a decent League 2 supported club.

Helps they've been successful recently thanks to the hefty financial backing they've had..think they were pretty much full time even when playing in Matlocks division.

[calvin plummers socks]

 Holmesc1, on 25 April 2024 - 04:53 AM, said:

Would be intresting to know how many efl clubs have iffy leases on stadiums think thats my biggest gripe, yes i know rules dont apply to existing clubs but they should be so any clubs who dont have a ten year lease or more have say 2 year to get one or are demoted out the league.

Nonsense

[Holmesc1]

 azul, on 25 April 2024 - 08:20 AM, said:

I wouldn’t be surprised to find out there is an element that they don’t want poorly supported clubs like Gateshead weakening the league any further so probably didn’t give them any benefit of the doubt. As far as your suggestion about demotion, that just smacks of bitterness and anyway it is easier to prevent a promotion than sanction a relegation. I’d expect measures like that would require EFL clubs voting on it - another case of turkeys voting for Christmas.

While were are on the subject why are Gateshead so poorly supported when the likes of South Shields get very respectable attendances and came from absolutely nowhere. I know Gateshead is just across the river from Newcastle but South Shields is hardly remote. Does South Shields have more identity than Gateshead?

Apart from the fact s shields are further than newcastle they are better supported as for the past few seasons they win most games and they have bought the bought the chairmans spiel, bang wagon jumpers soring to mind, a decade ago 80 were watching them. They have got a reality check this season and are now for sale

 calvin plummers socks, on 25 April 2024 - 01:24 PM, said:

Nonsense

Just like most of your posts i guess

[calvin plummers socks]

 Holmesc1, on 25 April 2024 - 04:53 AM, said:

Would be intresting to know how many efl clubs have iffy leases on stadiums think thats my biggest gripe, yes i know rules dont apply to existing clubs but they should be so any clubs who dont have a ten year lease or more have say 2 year to get one or are demoted out the league.

You really want clubs kicked out of the league for that reason?

[Holmesc1]

 calvin plummers socks, on 27 April 2024 - 10:15 AM, said:

You really want clubs kicked out of the league for that reason?

Just dont want double standards

[DIFH]

 clarevoyant., on 23 April 2024 - 04:04 PM, said:

I'm suprised no one's mentioned MK Dons didn't they start life (reincarnation) at a hockey stadium. (memory could be failing). You would think rules must have been financialy circumnavigated during this sordid affair

Yes

[azul]

Holmesc1, on 27 April 2024 - 09:57 AM, said:

Apart from the fact s shields are further than newcastle they are better supported as for the past few seasons they win most games and they have bought the bought the chairmans spiel, bang wagon jumpers soring to mind, a decade ago 80 were watching them. They have got a reality check this season and are now for sale

You do seem a little bitter about a club who were getting much bigger crowds than Gateshead in the 8th and even the 9th tier. No idea whether South Shields success is built on shifting sands but missing out on the playoffs in the NLN would appear on the face of it, reasonable. Out of interest where does Gateshead get its funding from to sustain 5th tier football with about 1000 regulars in a rented stadium?

[Johnnyspireite7]

azul, on 28 April 2024 - 08:02 AM, said:

You do seem a little bitter about a club who were getting much bigger crowds than Gateshead in the 8th and even the 9th tier. No idea whether South Shields success is built on shifting sands but missing out on the playoffs in the NLN would appear on the face of it, reasonable. Out of interest where does Gateshead get its funding from to sustain 5th tier football with about 1000 regulars in a rented stadium?

Especially when we consider they got thrown out of the NL in 2019 for financial irregularities as well.

[warfey is a spireite]

Hi they paid for that ,but feel they've been shafted this time .

[Holmesc1]

 azul, on 28 April 2024 - 08:02 AM, said:

You do seem a little bitter about a club who were getting much bigger crowds than Gateshead in the 8th and even the 9th tier. No idea whether South Shields success is built on shifting sands but missing out on the playoffs in the NLN would appear on the face of it, reasonable. Out of interest where does Gateshead get its funding from to sustain 5th tier football with about 1000 regulars in a rented stadium?

South sheilds success is built on a rich benafactor and local man whos now selling up and no suprise they finished 8th in national league north, who wouldn’t with there backing. Gatesheads funding comes from same place as numerous others in the league, the directors/share holders

 Johnnyspireite7, on 28 April 2024 - 08:26 AM, said:

Especially when we consider they got thrown out of the NL in 2019 for financial irregularities as well.

Well in the past, completely different owners now