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In Topic: The Tory Scum Thread

Yesterday, 10:20 AM

isleaiw1, on 11 June 2024 - 09:55 AM, said:
the trouble with economics and politics is it is pretty much all opinions as it is virtually impossible to isolate individual factors to assess impact / causation etc.

there does seem to be a preoccupation with the word sneer but whilst we are on it, isnt it quite sneering to point out that others are just resorting to sneers

Tory manifesto due in 30 mins, that should be fun. why they havent done any of it before now is the big question...

Is that the Sunak manifesto or the Braverman/Farage manifesto or whatever else they come with in the coming few weeks?

Traditional Conservatives should be wringing their hands over what Johnson, Truss, Braverman et al have done to their party.
In Topic: And Still It Goes On!

Yesterday, 10:16 AM

isleaiw1, on 11 June 2024 - 09:14 AM, said:
Do you have facts to base that on or is it just your prejudice?

We know socio economic issues drive drug use and refugees / asylum seekers are often out of work, with limited funds and little to occupy their time.... a perfect recipe for drug use, just look at prisons...

you need to ask?
In Topic: Is Our Transfer Business Done Now?

Yesterday, 10:15 AM

tomjoad, on 11 June 2024 - 09:50 AM, said:
Palmer Oldakerand Quigley out plus Hobson on loan to Boston?

Just gossip pf course

Whilst I'm not his biggest fan, I could see Quigley seeing out his contract here unless we pick up another big CH in the next 2 windows. As a late sub he offers another option up front, he'll work hard when he's on and his height can be handy in both boxes.
In Topic: The Debate

09 June 2024 - 08:00 PM

isleaiw1, on 08 June 2024 - 02:45 PM, said:
There is a safety net that makes sure everyone gets something in life, called benefits or the state pension, but most of us want more than that. So yes, having a working, available, quality service for all, and a system where those who can pay for something different sounds fine to me. A bit like tickets at the footie, we could all go in the kop for the cheapest ticket, and it does the job. But some prefer to choose a different option...

But your first line is true. A quality health system is, and we dont have one at the moment. So how are you going to solve it if not do something different...? Just raise more taxes? Or nationalise it to make it more efficient..... ? Oh, wait....

Again after 14 years in opposition you are looking at it like a protest party, complaining about other people's suggestions but not offering a thought through solution. As the boomers get to the end of their working life, and give up the private health insurance they have had for years, there are going to be ever increasing numbers wanting to use the NHS. It cant cope now.... so what are Labour suggesting? More appointments? that needs more staff, where are they coming from, who is paying them (and their pensions, more staff will only exacerbate the ?2.6trn of unrecognised debt to public sector pensions, so that's another problem for another day). All paid for by solving tax dodging apparently...

Private service and private sector buildings means less capital building for the govt, less borrowing to fund it, and no more PFI deals such as Blair was keen on and it seems Reeves is, which have hamstrung the NHS ever since...

PS I know Wiki isnt the most reliable thing in the world but this is interesting for which countries already have a mix - including some of those that are thought of as being ahead of the UK...

https://en.wikipedia...tems_by_country including Australia and Germany.

Or the Labour party could put an end to multi-millionaires allegedly taking 30% profits from public-funded NHS projects.

I refer again to the figures reported regarding one fast-lane PPE contract. If I recall correctly, it was reported in the press that the chap said that his company made 30% profit from the contract. I think that the press also idicated that he also said that such a % wasn't unusual. It was reported in the press that the profit was in the region of ?30M for that contract.

Ensuring that private profit is trimmed to the bone from public money combined with a grown up approach to NHS workforce planning would be a decent start by Labour.
In Topic: General Election It Is Then...

07 June 2024 - 04:48 PM

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 07 June 2024 - 04:07 PM, said:
Tory advisor: 'We have a problem, Prime Minister'. Your two thousand pound attack line is being dismantled as is your claim of it being based on Treasury figures'.

Sunak: 'Okay, so what do I do?'

TA: 'Well Boris always produced a 'dead cat' at this point, something to totally distract from the embarrassing issue'.

Sunak: 'Yes, good idea. Tell you what - I'll leave the D Day ceremonies early! Huh, no one'll be calling me a liar after that, will they...'

I'm slightly surprised that Sunak's team didn't go with the line that he didn't actually leave the ceremony at all but that Starmer did leave it and the person filmed wasn't him but was a Starmer body-double.