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BH (Radio Sheff) - Rico's future Dead Man Walking?

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Posted 30 March 2009 - 05:45 PM

He'll make a good manager next season whether he's here or elsewhere.

Does Rico's future depend on promotion, well er, I'm not sure, not necessarily.
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Posted 30 March 2009 - 05:53 PM

View PostMP-Spire, on Mar 30 2009, 06:48 PM, said:

He'll make a good manager next season whether he's here or elsewhere.

Does Rico's future depend on promotion, well er, I'm not sure, not necessarily.

:wacko: Well for me if:-
We get automatic promotion-----I wouldn't be surprised if he got 2 more years.
We succeed through the play-offs----ditto
We fail through the play-offs---1 more year.
We miss out on play-offs---the door!
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Posted 30 March 2009 - 05:57 PM

I'd think it'd be a case of, carry on our present form and he gets a new contract. Deteriorate and miss out on the play offs and he goes.

A few months ago everyone wanted Danny Wilson in and rico out, who's done the best since then?

Most managers who are out of work were sacked through poor results and there's no guarantee that replacing rico will see us doing any better than we have been in 2009. There's also no guarantee that rico will do as well next season as he has for the latter half of this but as the old saying goes if it ain't broke and currently here it's not broke.

As BH says they're going to leave it until after the season has finished and given what's just happened at Bradford that seems like the best plan.

View PostBlueRover52, on Mar 30 2009, 06:56 PM, said:

:wacko: Well for me if:-
We get automatic promotion-----I wouldn't be surprised if he got 2 more years.
We succeed through the play-offs----ditto
We fail through the play-offs---1 more year.
We miss out on play-offs---the door!



I agree with that tbh.

If we fail to get into the play offs after all the hard work in recent weeks then something will have badly gone wrong between now and the end of the season!
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Posted 30 March 2009 - 06:00 PM

View PostBlueprint, on Mar 30 2009, 06:59 PM, said:

I'd think it'd be a case of, carry on our present form and he gets a new contract. Deteriorate and miss out on the play offs and he goes.

A few months ago everyone wanted Danny Wilson in and rico out, who's done the best since then?

Most managers who are out of work were sacked through poor results and there's no guarantee that replacing rico will see us doing any better than we have been in 2009. There's also no guarantee that rico will do as well next season as he has for the latter half of this but as the old saying goes if it ain't broke and currently here it's not broke.

As BH says they're going to leave it until after the season has finished and given what's just happened at Bradford that seems like the best plan.

At the end of the day the decision will not be Hubbards to make - anyone investing £4 million into the club will want to have their own choice as manager, and who would argue against it. Hubbard's answers on the radio seem to confirm this for me. Now Richardson may get the chance (and if so I bet he is polishing off his powerpoint skills) or if the new owner has someone else in mind then they wouldn't be the first to get rid of a seemingly successful manager.
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Posted 30 March 2009 - 06:06 PM

View PostMP-Spire, on Mar 30 2009, 06:48 PM, said:

He'll make a good manager next season whether he's here or elsewhere.

Does Rico's future depend on promotion, well er, I'm not sure, not necessarily.

MP

If i'm reading your post currectly, this is what BH has said tonight?

If so that either says Rico has been told its Play Offs or no new deal or BH will have no/little influence on whether he gets offered a new deal.
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Posted 30 March 2009 - 06:09 PM

View PostSammy Spireite, on Mar 30 2009, 07:09 PM, said:

MP

If i'm reading your post currectly, this is what BH has said tonight?

If so that either says Rico has been told its Play Offs or no new deal or BH will have no/little influence on whether he gets offered a new deal.



Heyup Sammy,

Yep, give it until 8 ish and click on the listen again link on the Sheff site.
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Posted 30 March 2009 - 06:19 PM

View PostMP-Spire, on Mar 30 2009, 07:12 PM, said:

Heyup Sammy,

Yep, give it until 8 ish and click on the listen again link on the Sheff site.

Sunny Dev at Hasland for me tonight but will have a listen when i get back later.

certainly gonna be an interseting and eventful few weeks for this football club!
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Posted 31 March 2009 - 11:29 AM

View PostBlueRover52, on Mar 30 2009, 06:56 PM, said:

:lol: Well for me if:-
We get automatic promotion-----I wouldn't be surprised if he got 2 more years.
We succeed through the play-offs----ditto
We fail through the play-offs---1 more year.
We miss out on play-offs---the door!


That looks reasonable to me 'BlueRover52' although as I've previously suggested a 2 year contract maybe ought to have some sort of break clause in it so that we can get rid if results are really bad over, say, half a season. Of course, the other side of that coin is that if he did really well then there has to be some sort of incentive or bonus for Rico in there as well. It's an old cliche but the stick and carrot approach really does seem to be the best way to motivate most people.
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Posted 31 March 2009 - 11:57 AM

In my eyes Ricco and Sellars would have failed if they don't at the very least reach the Wembley play-off final. If we reach the play-offs and fail to reach the final then we will not claw any of the stauaways back for next season. If we lose at Wembley at least our finances should be fairly sound for next season and with the new ground due for the following season then the euthoria of Wembley should inspire some of the stayaways to come back, even under Ricco.
If The managerial pair do get us to Wembley at least, then Ricco should be given an initial 1yr extension and look again in January 2010 to see if we are showing good signs of improvement, if so give him a further year.
I have never been a Ricco or Sellars fan and I can't say I'm over confident about reaching the play-offs, but I sincerely hope these pair can lead us to promotion. I no longer chant Ricco Out, because apart from the odd game recently, we have been playing some good football, and they have made some cracking signings in, Talbot, Montrose, Wilson and even Gritton (when he decides to toughen up his act).
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Posted 31 March 2009 - 01:32 PM

View Postlindave, on Mar 31 2009, 01:00 PM, said:

In my eyes Ricco and Sellars would have failed if they don't at the very least reach the Wembley play-off final. If we reach the play-offs and fail to reach the final then we will not claw any of the stauaways back for next season. If we lose at Wembley at least our finances should be fairly sound for next season and with the new ground due for the following season then the euthoria of Wembley should inspire some of the stayaways to come back, even under Ricco.
If The managerial pair do get us to Wembley at least, then Ricco should be given an initial 1yr extension and look again in January 2010 to see if we are showing good signs of improvement, if so give him a further year.
I have never been a Ricco or Sellars fan and I can't say I'm over confident about reaching the play-offs, but I sincerely hope these pair can lead us to promotion. I no longer chant Ricco Out, because apart from the odd game recently, we have been playing some good football, and they have made some cracking signings in, Talbot, Montrose, Wilson and even Gritton (when he decides to toughen up his act).

Quality post pal. I agree with you on every point and its how i've felt of late.
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Posted 31 March 2009 - 03:14 PM

View PostAlex Green, on Mar 31 2009, 02:35 PM, said:

Quality post pal. I agree with you on every point and its how i've felt of late.
a lot of knee jerk reactions on the forum,richardson hasnt dne enough as of today to warrant anything but he looks to be improving,lets face it he signed montrose but played jamie winter against barnet,imagine if winter hadnt got injured,he may have not played lewis,it has took him 2/3rds of the season to realise that we needed quality in midfield ,what also if del hadnt recovered so quickly? R ichardson still chose to strengthen from the outside in instead of vice versa.....he is still well and truely in his probation but the futures looking brighter
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Posted 31 March 2009 - 03:14 PM

dave allen will bring his own management i heard last night
i suport two teams CHESTERFIELD and watever team is playing mansfield
rico gone hubbard next please
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Posted 31 March 2009 - 03:25 PM

View PostBlueRover52, on Mar 30 2009, 05:56 PM, said:

:lol: Well for me if:-
We get automatic promotion-----I wouldn't be surprised if he got 2 more years.
We succeed through the play-offs----ditto
We fail through the play-offs---1 more year.
We miss out on play-offs---the door!

An improvement on last season was what he was actually asked to do. To just get into the playoffs is that improvement. So If he does that I would expect a simular deal to the last one. To still have the axe over his head while is this possition creates unwanted pressure on the team.

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Posted 31 March 2009 - 03:32 PM

View Postdjs, on Mar 31 2009, 04:28 PM, said:

An improvement on last season was what he was actually asked to do. To just get into the playoffs is that improvement. So If he does that I would expect a simular deal to the last one.

The Board and manager made a bit of a hash of things last season with their "if I don't get this team promoted I don't deserve to be in this job" and "only promotion is good enough" comments (please note not direct quotes). We failed and no remedial action was taken; hence a number of 'rewarding failure' comments on this forum.

What goals did the Board and/or manager state for this year? If the aim was to improve upon last year's 8th place then indeed reaching the play offs would be improvement.
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Posted 31 March 2009 - 03:37 PM

View PostDoughnut, on Mar 31 2009, 04:35 PM, said:

The Board and manager made a bit of a hash of things last season with their "if I don't get this team promoted I don't deserve to be in this job" and "only promotion is good enough" comments (please note not direct quotes). We failed and no remedial action was taken; hence a number of 'rewarding failure' comments on this forum.

What goals did the Board and/or manager state for this year? If the aim was to improve upon last year's 8th place then indeed reaching the play offs would be improvement.

ye but i would anticipate the fans expecting a turnout at wembley or automatics as improvement.
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Posted 31 March 2009 - 05:48 PM

View Postdtr36, on Mar 31 2009, 04:17 PM, said:

dave allen will bring his own management i heard last night


That better work then, as there's no guarantee anyone else will do better. If rico gets the chop after talking us up i'll be very disappointed for the guy.
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Posted 31 March 2009 - 05:56 PM

View PostBlueprint, on Mar 31 2009, 06:51 PM, said:

That better work then, as there's no guarantee anyone else will do better. If rico gets the chop after talking us up i'll be very disappointed for the guy.


Just heard BH on radio sheff and he implied a consortium may be investing as when he was asked if this man or woman and BH said or them so read in to that what you will.

Any one heard anything decent on the rumour mill about this?
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Posted 31 March 2009 - 05:58 PM

View PostBlueprint, on Mar 30 2009, 07:00 PM, said:

I'd think it'd be a case of, carry on our present form and he gets a new contract. Deteriorate and miss out on the play offs and he goes.

A few months ago everyone wanted Danny Wilson in and rico out, who's done the best since then?

Most managers who are out of work were sacked through poor results and there's no guarantee that replacing rico will see us doing any better than we have been in 2009. There's also no guarantee that rico will do as well next season as he has for the latter half of this but as the old saying goes if it ain't broke and currently here it's not broke.

As BH says they're going to leave it until after the season has finished and given what's just happened at Bradford that seems like the best plan.




I agree with that tbh.

If we fail to get into the play offs after all the hard work in recent weeks then something will have badly gone wrong between now and the end of the season!


Swindons form has been good since Wilson took over.

It seems to me our form picked up after Ward left.
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Posted 31 March 2009 - 06:05 PM

View Postdeath, on Mar 31 2009, 07:01 PM, said:

Swindons form has been good since Wilson took over.

It seems to me our form picked up after Ward left.


Yes it has but is that because Nivo has come back?

I personally think it is but thats only my opinion.
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Posted 31 March 2009 - 06:25 PM

View PostPACCFC, on Mar 31 2009, 07:08 PM, said:

Yes it has but is that because Nivo has come back?

I personally think it is but thats only my opinion.



That is definately a factor yes, however we had Niven at the back end of last season and tailed off though.

Without ward we dont have the pace and the need to punt the ball into the channels.

Probably a bit of both.
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