[Westbars Spireite]

60s 70s Spireite, on 15 May 2019 - 02:42 PM, said:

Plus a red card for a player entering the VAR area...

To try and watch the replay? The possibilities are endless!

Red card if they go around the back and unplug it too presumably.

[Siberian Spireite]

Perhaps they should make it a foul for an outfield player to be in possession of the ball but not attempt to play it, so as to stop the taking of the ball into the corners to waste time, and stop defenders ‘shielding’ the ball out of play by blatantly obstructing.

This post has been edited by Siberian Spireite: 19 May 2019 - 05:07 PM

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Siberian Spireite, on 19 May 2019 - 05:07 PM, said:

Perhaps they should make it a foul for an outfield player to be in possession of the ball but not attempt to play it, so as to stop the taking of the ball into the corners to waste time, and stop defenders ‘shielding’ the ball out of play by blatantly obstructing.

You mean whilst the ball is still in play? Why would they ban that?

[60s 70s Spireite]

Siberian Spireite, on 19 May 2019 - 05:07 PM, said:

Perhaps they should make it a foul for an outfield player to be in possession of the ball but not attempt to play it, so as to stop the taking of the ball into the corners to waste time, and stop defenders ‘shielding’ the ball out of play by blatantly obstructing.

It was obstruction in the 60’s. Saw many a player penalised for it.

[Siberian Spireite]

calvin plummers socks, on 19 May 2019 - 05:12 PM, said:

You mean whilst the ball is still in play? Why would they ban that?

Erm, something about ure hamstring?

[calvin plummers socks]

Siberian Spireite, on 19 May 2019 - 05:16 PM, said:

Erm, something about ure hamstring?

Lol

[Stockholm Spireite]

Meanwhile, at the grassroots level, sin-bins come into operation from next season.

Derbyshire FA

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[calvin plummers socks]

Stockholm Spireite, on 20 May 2019 - 01:10 PM, said:

Meanwhile, at the grassroots level, sin-bins come into operation from next season.

Derbyshire FA

sin bins.jpg

Interesting one that.
Lord knows how that will be managed. A player officially should be sent off for swearing at a ref but happens majority of games to no punishment

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calvin plummers socks, on 20 May 2019 - 02:14 PM, said:

Interesting one that.
Lord knows how that will be managed. A player officially should be sent off for swearing at a ref but happens majority of games to no punishment

If they enforce it as any dissent (i.e not giving same respect to referee as say they get in Rugby) then you could quickly end up with more in the sin-bin than on the pitch


Player1 - "C'mon thats never raite ref you're having a f**kin laff !! "

Ref - "Player1 Sin-Bin"

Player2 - "You can't sin bin him for that ref - are you having a f**kin laff !! "

Ref - "Player2 Sin-Bin"

Player3 - "Two in the sin bin !! - are you having a f**kin laff !! "

Ref - "Player3 Sin-Bin"

........ and so it goes on

[clarevoyant.]

Stockholm Spireite, on 20 May 2019 - 01:10 PM, said:

Meanwhile, at the grassroots level, sin-bins come into operation from next season.

Derbyshire FA

sin bins.jpg

Should provide some interesting scenarios with multi lingual sides!!!

[Elmer Fudd's Thick Lip]

HoneyTrippa, on 14 May 2019 - 04:18 PM, said:

New Rules That They Should have brought in but didn't:
1) Clock Stops when a player is injured or there is a stoppage as per Rugby etc. (that way there is no argument about minutes to play extra time. The game is 45mins each way and that's it - done)
2) Ban players arguing and approaching referee and linesman full stop. It should be just the captain and referee only.
3) Ban Time wasting e.g taking the ball into the corner when the game is nearly finished. This activity is a real pain and spoils the protocol of the game, causes friction between fans and opposing players. Could there be some form of rule to prevent this.

That's just a quick 3 off the top of my head... anymore for anymore anybody

Do you mean attacking players running into corner flag area to run down the clock as the end of the game approaches??
I agree with the rest but not this, it's game management and not time wasting per se.

[Benno Spire]

HoneyTrippa, on 14 May 2019 - 04:18 PM, said:

New Rules That They Should have brought in but didn't:
1) Clock Stops when a player is injured or there is a stoppage as per Rugby etc. (that way there is no argument about minutes to play extra time. The game is 45mins each way and that's it - done)
2) Ban players arguing and approaching referee and linesman full stop. It should be just the captain and referee only.
3) Ban Time wasting e.g taking the ball into the corner when the game is nearly finished. This activity is a real pain and spoils the protocol of the game, causes friction between fans and opposing players. Could there be some form of rule to prevent this.

That's just a quick 3 off the top of my head... anymore for anymore anybody

Introduce the basketball rule where after the ball has crossed the half way line it can't be passed back over the line.

[Stockholm Spireite]

Benno Spire, on 23 May 2019 - 05:19 PM, said:

Introduce the basketball rule where after the ball has crossed the half way line it can't be passed back over the line.

Really? You might as well add in the 24-second shot clock whilst you're at it.

[Benno Spire]

Stockholm Spireite, on 23 May 2019 - 06:52 PM, said:

Really? You might as well add in the 24-second shot clock whilst you're at it.

It would stop boring negative tactics

[Stockholm Spireite]

Benno Spire, on 23 May 2019 - 07:26 PM, said:

It would stop boring negative tactics

For too many years, we've seen possession wasted countless times because of the kick-and-chase / emphasis on athletes vs. footballers / crappy managers like MA employing hoofball tactics. Even if you watch the '99 Champions League final now, you'll see a criminal waste of the ball when you compare to today's standards.

There were so many crying out for a better standard of entertainment as well as standard of play. We now have it.

And you seem to be advocating the removal of something special in our game in the fact we now have players who think about keeping the ball and seeing possession as critical.

The game has developed for the better, perhaps your mindset towards a huge positive should, too?

[Benno Spire]

Stockholm Spireite, on 23 May 2019 - 07:35 PM, said:

For too many years, we've seen possession wasted countless times because of the kick-and-chase / emphasis on athletes vs. footballers / crappy managers like MA employing hoofball tactics. Even if you watch the '99 Champions League final now, you'll see a criminal waste of the ball when you compare to today's standards.

There were so many crying out for a better standard of entertainment as well as standard of play. We now have it.

And you seem to be advocating the removal of something special in our game in the fact we now have players who think about keeping the ball and seeing possession as critical.

The game has developed for the better, perhaps your mindset towards a huge positive should, too?

I fully understand your viewpoint and appreciate you work in the game and probably have a better understanding of the game than me. I appreciate it’s important to keep possession but I get frustrated with teams just passing from one side to the next I want to be entertained and not bored by a team that focuses on just passing to keep possesion

[Stockholm Spireite]

Benno Spire, on 23 May 2019 - 08:02 PM, said:

I fully understand your viewpoint and appreciate you work in the game and probably have a better understanding of the game than me. I appreciate it’s important to keep possession but I get frustrated with teams just passing from one side to the next I want to be entertained and not bored by a team that focuses on just passing to keep possesion

So play your scenario out. If you applied the basketball half-court rule, and gave the opposition a free kick on the halfway line, you'd have endless stoppages and the game broken up even more. Set plays become the norm for re-starting the game after your new "foul". Does that keep the game flowing or just disrupt it? Does that mean more entertainment or frustration you as a spectator?

[Westbars Spireite]

Dunno if mentioned already but I've just seen there are 10 minute sin bins for dissent below step 4 from next season.

If it's a goalkeeper an outfield player takes over and if he comes back on during open play he does so as an outfield player until the next break in play.

Could be entertaining!

This post has been edited by Westbars Spireite: 23 May 2019 - 10:15 PM

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Westbars Spireite, on 23 May 2019 - 10:15 PM, said:

Dunno if mentioned already but I've just seen there are 10 minute sin bins for dissent below step 4 from next season.

If it's a goalkeeper an outfield player takes over and if he comes back on during open play he does so as an outfield player until the next break in play.

Could be entertaining!

It's almost like they want a reason for it to fail...

They could allow the sub keeper on and an outfield player to leave with the keeper, but that might be too much common sense for the FA.

If a prop forward in Rugby Union is binned, they have to have a specialist replacement to contest the scrum, which means sometimes a flanker or a back is removed from the field in orfer to make it happen.

[Siberian Spireite]

Stockholm Spireite, on 23 May 2019 - 11:49 PM, said:

It's almost like they want a reason for it to fail...

They could allow the sub keeper on and an outfield player to leave with the keeper, but that might be too much common sense for the FA.

If a prop forward in Rugby Union is binned, they have to have a specialist replacement to contest the scrum, which means sometimes a flanker or a back is removed from the field in orfer to make it happen.

Teams at Step 4 downwards often don't have a keeper on the bench. The rule as proposed means they wouldn't be forced to name one.