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#1 User is offline   Mr Mercury 

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Posted 02 February 2024 - 09:29 PM

So we’ve recently had a Tory Minister quitting at the next election due to his office being firebombed for his pro Israel stance and now Labours deputy leader, and quite possibly our next deputy PM, said she lives in fear after being confronted by Pro Palestine supporters over Labours stance on Gaza…is this what our politics is coming to. If you don’t speak out in a pro Palestine manner or you offer support for Israel, then reap the consequences?
And we still think the masses on the recent marches were decent folk speaking out for the innocent victims or was it just as much about antisemitism and pro Hamas support?

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Posted 02 February 2024 - 10:12 PM

Israel are standing up for the West, we should support them
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Posted 03 February 2024 - 11:15 AM

View PostSearch & Destroy, on 02 February 2024 - 10:12 PM, said:

Israel are standing up for the West, we should support them


"Standing up for the West"?

Https://www.theguard...western-backers

Https://www.bbc.co.u.../world-68097640

Https://apnews.com/a...ff122229c166807

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Posted 03 February 2024 - 11:29 AM

View PostSearch & Destroy, on 02 February 2024 - 10:12 PM, said:

Israel are standing up for the West, we should support them


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Posted 03 February 2024 - 11:46 AM

View PostGoku, on 03 February 2024 - 11:29 AM, said:

Low IQ

Ever since Carol Voderman took the leftie side there’s been an obsession with IQs, unhealthy

View PostGoku, on 03 February 2024 - 11:29 AM, said:

Low IQ

Ever since Carol Voderman took the leftie side there’s been an obsession with IQs, unhealthy obsession.
For example I don’t know my IQ but I know I’m a lot more intelligent than most.

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Posted 03 February 2024 - 01:25 PM

View PostMr Mercury, on 03 February 2024 - 11:46 AM, said:

Ever since Carol Voderman took the leftie side there’s been an obsession with IQs, unhealthy


Ever since Carol Voderman took the leftie side there’s been an obsession with IQs, unhealthy obsession.
For example I don’t know my IQ but I know I’m a lot more intelligent than most.


An interest in IQ is normally a thing that the Right care about - anyone who legitimately cares about it is a moron. Suspect Goku is suggesting it slightly tongue in cheek. You're right that it has no bearing on anything and is a made up metric with no real use.

On this topic more generally, genuine threats to MPs obviously need to be taken v seriously but in the Rayner situation this just isn't the case. She was never in any danger whatsoever but already other MPs and newspaper journos are circling the wagons and treating it like she was in actual jeopardy.

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Posted 03 February 2024 - 02:48 PM

View PostMr Mercury, on 03 February 2024 - 11:46 AM, said:

Ever since Carol Voderman took the leftie side there’s been an obsession with IQs, unhealthy


Ever since Carol Voderman took the leftie side there’s been an obsession with IQs, unhealthy obsession.
For example I don’t know my IQ but I know I’m a lot more intelligent than most.

If you don't know your or anyone else's IQ. How do you know you are more intelligent than most? Or is it just a feeling of self importance or maybe you see yourself as superior to the rest of us poor unintelligent Plebs
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Posted 03 February 2024 - 03:53 PM

View Postfishini, on 03 February 2024 - 02:48 PM, said:

If you don't know your or anyone else's IQ. How do you know you are more intelligent than most? Or is it just a feeling of self importance or maybe you see yourself as superior to the rest of us poor unintelligent Plebs

Common sense
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Posted 03 February 2024 - 03:58 PM

View PostMr Mercury, on 03 February 2024 - 03:53 PM, said:

Common sense


Mate - you're fast becoming the 'Walton Spireite' of this platform...
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Posted 04 February 2024 - 01:44 PM

View PostMr Mercury, on 03 February 2024 - 03:53 PM, said:

Common sense


What is common sense?

Come to that what is intelligence? Only us are in our own heads (thankfully) and know what we know. I know a Professor of Biochemistry…complete brain box but didn’t spot the fact his new used car was a taxi (that had had stickers, radio, plates etc removed). I’ve met people who would seem to be seen as traditionally “intelligent “ who can assemble an engine from scratch. Is that intelligence or repetition?

To assume you are more intelligent is …misguided or arrogant.
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Posted 04 February 2024 - 01:59 PM

View Postfishini, on 03 February 2024 - 02:48 PM, said:

If you don't know your or anyone else's IQ. How do you know you are more intelligent than most? Or is it just a feeling of self importance or maybe you see yourself as superior to the rest of us poor unintelligent Plebs

Where did I class myself as more intelligent than you?
Certainly tickled a few the reply to Gokus mention of IQ.
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Posted 04 February 2024 - 02:37 PM

View PostMr Mercury, on 04 February 2024 - 01:59 PM, said:

Where did I class myself as more intelligent than you?
Certainly tickled a few the reply to Gokus mention of IQ.

Where did I say you did? However I class myself as amongst the most. So in a way you did along with most of everyone else. Never took you as arrogant. How wrong was I?
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Posted 04 February 2024 - 03:11 PM

View Postfishini, on 04 February 2024 - 02:37 PM, said:

Where did I say you did? However I class myself as amongst the most. So in a way you did along with most of everyone else. Never took you as arrogant. How wrong was I?

Lighten up.
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Posted 04 February 2024 - 03:46 PM

View PostMr Mercury, on 04 February 2024 - 03:11 PM, said:

Lighten up.

You stated you are more intelligent than most. I personally wouldn't presume that I was.
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Posted 04 February 2024 - 04:39 PM

View Postfishini, on 04 February 2024 - 03:46 PM, said:

You stated you are more intelligent than most. I personally wouldn't presume that I was.

It was a light hearted response to the seeming insistence on a high IQ, even if people are less intelligent it doesn’t make them any less of a person, hence why an high IA isn’t really an issue in everyday life.
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Posted 04 February 2024 - 08:51 PM

View PostMr Mercury, on 04 February 2024 - 04:39 PM, said:

It was a light hearted response to the seeming insistence on a high IQ, even if people are less intelligent it doesn’t make them any less of a person, hence why an high IA isn’t really an issue in everyday life.


The only thing that really matters is to be a kind, caring, balanced person who can see different perspectives, can accept others that are not like them and live in harmony with others.

Short supply on here then ;)
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Posted 04 February 2024 - 08:55 PM

View Postisleaiw1, on 04 February 2024 - 08:51 PM, said:

The only thing that really matters is to be a kind, caring, balanced person who can see different perspectives, can accept others that are not like them and live in harmony with others.

Short supply on here then ;)

Very short supply.
What I find quite alarming on here, and it’s raised it’s head today on the main forum, is the ability of posters to decry the intelligence of those that don’t agree with their point of view.

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Posted 04 February 2024 - 10:55 PM

View PostMr Mercury, on 04 February 2024 - 08:55 PM, said:

Very short supply.
What I find quite alarming on here, and it’s raised it’s head today on the main forum, is the ability of posters to decry the intelligence of those that don’t agree with their point of view.


I also find the quick jump to name calling a bit like being back in school....and as my old dad used to say, if you have to resort to name calling you really have lost the debate...

We are all different and have different views, its fine. Cant all be right like me all of the time :)

(Yes, that is a joke!)

Anyway, its stopped raining, the sun is shining so off to do a bit of exploring before its back to work tomorrow and then the long bothered flight back on Wed / Thursday / Friday - only an island hop on Wednesday to be ready for the main flights on Thursday!
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Posted 04 February 2024 - 10:59 PM

View Postisleaiw1, on 04 February 2024 - 10:55 PM, said:

I also find the quick jump to name calling a bit like being back in school....and as my old dad used to say, if you have to resort to name calling you really have lost the debate...

We are all different and have different views, its fine. Cant all be right like me all of the time :)

(Yes, that is a joke!)

Anyway, its stopped raining, the sun is shining so off to do a bit of exploring before its back to work tomorrow and then the long bothered flight back on Wed / Thursday / Friday - only an island hop on Wednesday to be ready for the main flights on Thursday!

Head West next time, the return journey is far less traumatic. Unless the 787 has a main computer glitch followed by a leaking boiler

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Posted 04 February 2024 - 11:29 PM

View PostMr Mercury, on 04 February 2024 - 10:59 PM, said:

Head West next time, the return journey is far less traumatic. Unless the 787 has a main computer glitch followed by a leaking boiler

I am west, but so far that I am nearly east too... !
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