[Andy Spireite]

Absolutely disgraceful behaviour.

Basically this organization cares not one jot about developing footballers but in selling a dream of football stardom to a bunch of eager kids (and their parents) and then milking them for all they are worth.

Yet another reason why I believe Turner should be given his marching orders, not only does he have no clue about how to financially manage a business but he seemingly has zero ethics as well.

[Somerset Spireite]

Bonnyman, on 10 February 2016 - 10:21 AM, said:

Get your head out your arris if the development is doing wrong the club is doing wrong,its that simple its not a matter of cfc distancing itself.

Thanks for the tone!

Can't agree. What can be legally made to "stick" (i.e. the demonstrable legal connection between the entities involved) may well be different from the perception of who is involved, the latter being created by the website and the identity of the people involved. If the Club doesn't think it is liable, then it needs to do something about creating some distance a.s.a.p.

Righto, I'll just stick my head back in my "arris" ...

[For your eyes only]

Somerset Spireite, on 10 February 2016 - 11:58 AM, said:

Thanks for the tone!

Can't agree. What can be legally made to "stick" (i.e. the demonstrable legal connection between the entities involved) may well be different from the perception of who is involved, the latter being created by the website and the identity of the people involved. If the Club doesn't think it is liable, then it needs to do something about creating some distance a.s.a.p.

Righto, I'll just stick my head back in my "arris" ...

[For your eyes only]

The club (CFC) and the development centre have no financial ties and stand as a separate entity.
But the development are basically there to supply the academy, then onto Youth Team, reserves, and eventually go on to pro contract.
The website is a direct association with the main club, news of 'Elite Squad' matches appear regularly and so on.
The connection between the two is closer than you think.
The only reason it's being slightly pushed to one side verbally is because the Development Centre is in massive financial trouble.
Hence why a TV crew turned up with a high court sheriff!

This post has been edited by For your eyes only: 10 February 2016 - 12:55 PM

[Cartman]

all this type of organisation seems to do is make money off of the dreams of young kids (and their parents) who are not good enough to be involved with football club junior sections

no kid should be paying this much to be involved with a development program that is not part of a club officially

either they should be at a football club academy or they should be playing for a local amateur junior team

CFC needs to distance themselves from this enterprise and stop allowing them to use the clubs name and reputation

[SpireiteFitzy]

For your eyes only, on 10 February 2016 - 12:55 PM, said:

The club (CFC) and the development centre have no financial ties and stand as a separate entity.
But the development are basically there to supply the academy, then onto Youth Team, reserves, and eventually go on to pro contract.
The website is a direct association with the main club, news of 'Elite Squad' matches appear regularly and so on.
The connection between the two is closer than you think.
The only reason it's being slightly pushed to one side verbally is because the Development Centre is in massive financial trouble.
Hence why a TV crew turned up with a high court sheriff!

A Tv crew and a sheriff? The filming crew for BBC's The Sheriffs are Coming?

[Bonnyman]

Somerset Spireite, on 10 February 2016 - 11:58 AM, said:

Thanks for the tone!

Can't agree. What can be legally made to "stick" (i.e. the demonstrable legal connection between the entities involved) may well be different from the perception of who is involved, the latter being created by the website and the identity of the people involved. If the Club doesn't think it is liable, then it needs to do something about creating some distance a.s.a.p.

Righto, I'll just stick my head back in my "arris" ...

I do apologise it was meant as generalisation,the development is part of the club though,the club simply cannot brush it under the carpet.

[For your eyes only]

SpireiteFitzy, on 10 February 2016 - 01:23 PM, said:

A Tv crew and a sheriff? The filming crew for BBC's The Sheriffs are Coming?

[Zorro]

Humpalumpa, on 03 February 2016 - 06:05 PM, said:

oh dear, this looks bad on the club and the CEO.

it certainly looks like its associated to CFC;

http://cfcfds.co.uk/

Just to clarify, this link has nothing to do with the Village or the development centre run by LS, it is a separate entity.

It is confusing tho

Z

This post has been edited by Zorro: 10 February 2016 - 03:40 PM

[Somerset Spireite]

Bonnyman, on 10 February 2016 - 02:39 PM, said:

I do apologise it was meant as generalisation,the development is part of the club though,the club simply cannot brush it under the carpet.

No worries!

[dalekpete]

Can I just clarify the position as I see it?

The Development School is separate to the football club. It is a not for profit company. As well as the junior ranks a lot of funding is through the education system and the level 3 BTEC courses, like many colleges greater fees can be generated by overseas students. This also allows a bigger catchment of talented footballers of course.

I have been told that all the families that cannot make the re-arrange trip have had their money returned. The case in the press had been sorted before the article came out.

There are enough going on the April trip that this is now confirmed.

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Bonnyman, on 09 February 2016 - 11:16 AM, said:

It amazes me why we bothered with cat 3 status,facts dictate that we have only produced players who have joined at a late stage after being released..bowery and tendayi were never our products,cat 4 must surely cost less to run,it does away with all the lower age groups.This would then cascade down to the PPP which for all the bad press is a fantastic idea if run correctly which it should be.

Because the difference between Cat 4 and Cat 3 is around a couple of hundred grand in FA/FL grants!

Dunno how much of that Mark Smith actually sees or how much is sidelined for 'other things', but you can see why certain folk at the Club would prefer the higher grade.

This post has been edited by MDCCCLXVI: 10 February 2016 - 05:40 PM

[dim view]

dalekpete, on 10 February 2016 - 04:20 PM, said:

Can I just clarify the position as I see it?

The Development School is separate to the football club. It is a not for profit company. As well as the junior ranks a lot of funding is through the education system and the level 3 BTEC courses, like many colleges greater fees can be generated by overseas students. This also allows a bigger catchment of talented footballers of course.

I have been told that all the families that cannot make the re-arrange trip have had their money returned. The case in the press had been sorted before the article came out.

There are enough going on the April trip that this is now confirmed.

So, what status or qualifications or arrangements have the Directors achieved in order to run BTEC courses and draw down funds from the Education system?. Are they subject to Ofsted inspections?.

[Somerset Spireite]

Zorro, on 10 February 2016 - 03:38 PM, said:

Just to clarify, this link has nothing to do with the Village or the development centre run by LS, it is a separate entity.

It is confusing tho

Z

You're not kidding. I am utterly confused now ...!

[Bonnyman]

dalekpete, on 10 February 2016 - 04:20 PM, said:

Can I just clarify the position as I see it?

The Development School is separate to the football club. It is a not for profit company. As well as the junior ranks a lot of funding is through the education system and the level 3 BTEC courses, like many colleges greater fees can be generated by overseas students. This also allows a bigger catchment of talented footballers of course.

I have been told that all the families that cannot make the re-arrange trip have had their money returned. The case in the press had been sorted before the article came out.

There are enough going on the April trip that this is now confirmed.

I can confirm from my source that you are correct,monies have been paid back...time to put it to bed and let the kids play.

[calvin plummers socks]

dim view, on 10 February 2016 - 05:14 PM, said:

So, what status or qualifications or arrangements have the Directors achieved in order to run BTEC courses and draw down funds from the Education system?. Are they subject to Ofsted inspections?.

Yes they are subject to Ofsted (which is worrying I guess for them)

[For your eyes only]

dalekpete, on 10 February 2016 - 04:20 PM, said:

Can I just clarify the position as I see it?

The Development School is separate to the football club. It is a not for profit company. As well as the junior ranks a lot of funding is through the education system and the level 3 BTEC courses, like many colleges greater fees can be generated by overseas students. This also allows a bigger catchment of talented footballers of course.

I have been told that all the families that cannot make the re-arrange trip have had their money returned. The case in the press had been sorted before the article came out.

There are enough going on the April trip that this is now confirmed.

[For your eyes only]

Zorro, on 10 February 2016 - 03:38 PM, said:

Just to clarify, this link has nothing to do with the Village or the development centre run by LS, it is a separate entity.

It is confusing tho

Z

[For your eyes only]

This link has everything to do with that it is about the development centre?
It covers the younger child's PPP (Development) and the scholars development matches AND the international academy players and matches, and is everything to do with the 'village' (players digs) and the centre run by LS.
As the International players live at the village.
The list of teams are all run by Sutcliffe.
It covers all those teams of which Sutcliffe runs!

[spireitenag]

dim view, on 10 February 2016 - 05:14 PM, said:

So, what status or qualifications or arrangements have the Directors achieved in order to run BTEC courses and draw down funds from the Education system?. Are they subject to Ofsted inspections?.

All it states on Sutcliffe's LinkedIn page is "some F.A and EUFA qualifications".