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#41 User is offline   Tom 

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Posted 26 November 2009 - 08:39 PM

We can add a few more of those from way back when. I've seen these play at Saltergate:

Frank Swift (Man City & England)
Stanley Matthews (Stoke & England)
Billy Liddell (Liverpool & Scotland)
Alf Ramsey (Southampton & England)
Danny Blanchflower (Barnsley & N.I.)
John Charles (Leeds & Wales) (a teenager at the time)
Don Revie (Leicester & England)
Roy Bentley (Chelsea & England)
Albert Quixall (Wednesday & England)
Jackie Sewell (Wednesday & England)
Derek Dougan (Blackburn & N.I.)

Also, not sure, but I think Neil Franklin (England centre-half) may have played with Stoke when Matthews was here in 1945-46.
Someone mentioned Ray Middleton. Unfortunately, he never became a full international, but certainly played for the England 'B' team (against Switzerland if I remember correctly).
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Posted 26 November 2009 - 09:08 PM

Players born in countries outside U.K who've played for us. No doubt there's more but here's a few to start.
Cameroon,Jean Jacques Misse Misse.
Germany,Thomas Hitzlesperger,Wilf Smith.
Democratic Republic of Congo,Tcham N'Toya Zoa.
India, Nelson Stiffle,Ricky Heppolette.
Surinam,Gus Uhlenbeek.
St.Kitts,Triston Benjamin,Keith Walwyn.
France,Oliver Bernadeau.
Holland,Michael Cheetham.
Nigeria,John Chiedozie.
Channel Islands (Guernsey),Raymond De Gruchy.
Zambia,Neil Gregory.
USA,Junior McDougald.
Portugal,Val Texeira.
South Africa,Dudley Milligan,Davide Somma.
Australia,John Roberts,Aaron Downes.
Trinidad & Tobago,Kevin Austin.
Hungary,Janos Kovacs.
Ghana,Junior Agogo.

Over too you folks!

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Posted 26 November 2009 - 09:13 PM

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Posted 26 November 2009 - 09:23 PM

Felix Bastians,Germany.



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Posted 26 November 2009 - 09:42 PM

including today's two...

England 671
Scotland 74
Wales 24
Northern Ireland 13
Republic of Ireland 13
Australia 5 ( Downes, Roberts, Meredith, McMaster, Rizzo)
West Germany 3
St Kitts 2
India 2
Hungary 2
France 2
Zaire 1
United States 1
Surinam 1
South Africa 2
Nigeria 1
Netherlands 1
Portugal 1
Ghana 1
Zambia 1
Channel Islands 1 (Ray DeGruchy)
Cameroon 1

Yes, I know Channel Islands isn't a "country" as such, but you can't see them from the Isle of Wight!

I have Austin born Hackney...?

Let's begin stretching it a bit. I offer Shabani Bakar and Kweri Mingi, Mozambiquans (?) who trained with us in the 1970s. We were also offered Tewfik Abdullah, of Egypt, by Derby in the early 1920s, but turned them down.

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Posted 26 November 2009 - 09:49 PM

View PostTom, on Nov 26 2009, 08:42 PM, said:

We can add a few more of those from way back when. I've seen these play at Saltergate:

Frank Swift (Man City & England)
Stanley Matthews (Stoke & England)
Billy Liddell (Liverpool & Scotland)
Alf Ramsey (Southampton & England)
Danny Blanchflower (Barnsley & N.I.)
John Charles (Leeds & Wales) (a teenager at the time)
Don Revie (Leicester & England)
Roy Bentley (Chelsea & England)
Albert Quixall (Wednesday & England)
Jackie Sewell (Wednesday & England)
Derek Dougan (Blackburn & N.I.)

Also, not sure, but I think Neil Franklin (England centre-half) may have played with Stoke when Matthews was here in 1945-46.
Someone mentioned Ray Middleton. Unfortunately, he never became a full international, but certainly played for the England 'B' team (against Switzerland if I remember correctly).


Great stuff, Tom. For Tom and others: What's your "All comers" XI out of all of those you've seen play us here?

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Posted 26 November 2009 - 10:07 PM

View PostStuart Basson, on Nov 26 2009, 09:45 PM, said:

including today's two...

England 671
Scotland 74
Wales 24
Northern Ireland 13
Republic of Ireland 13
Australia 5 ( Downes, Roberts, Meredith, McMaster, Rizzo)
West Germany 3
St Kitts 2
India 2
Hungary 2
France 2
Zaire 1
United States 1
Surinam 1
South Africa 2
Nigeria 1
Netherlands 1
Portugal 1
Ghana 1
Zambia 1
Channel Islands 1 (Ray DeGruchy)
Cameroon 1

Yes, I know Channel Islands isn't a "country" as such, but you can't see them from the Isle of Wight!

I have Austin born Hackney...?

Let's begin stretching it a bit. I offer Shabani Bakar and Kweri Mingi, Mozambiquans (?) who trained with us in the 1970s. We were also offered Tewfik Abdullah, of Egypt, by Derby in the early 1920s, but turned them down.


Honour Gombami - Zimbabwe.
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Posted 26 November 2009 - 10:46 PM

View Postdim view, on Nov 25 2009, 07:28 PM, said:

I had the same thought - some kind of roll of honour.

I heard a rumour that Best made his reserve team debut at Saltergate but it might be a myth. There must be a mighty small list of great international footballers that have played here.
Banks, Forlan, Best, Hitzelsburger............................errrrrrrrrrr!



Ward, Clinghan, Banks, Downes,........................errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Posted 26 November 2009 - 11:22 PM

what about when we played man city in league cup 1976

city had corrigan bell channon tueart watson kidd to name a few

all england internationals only just beat us 1 0
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Posted 26 November 2009 - 11:23 PM

View PostDave In Footie Heaven, on Nov 26 2009, 10:49 PM, said:

Ward, Clinghan, Banks, Downes,........................errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


Internationals I don't think listed Peter Beardsley (Carlisle), Trevor Steven (Burnley), Colin Clarke (N.Ireland), Gerry Armstrong, Jermaine DeFoe, Rio Ferdinand, Swansea team of the 70's (Callaghan, Kennedyetc), Luther Blissett, Steve Bull, Gordon Hill. Wolves, Spurs, Chelsea etc in the late 40's/early 50's.
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Posted 26 November 2009 - 11:51 PM

View PostMurrayBu, on Nov 26 2009, 10:10 PM, said:

Honour Gombami - Zimbabwe.

Great call.

An incomplete lists of recent-ish foreign triallists who may not all have played at Saltergate:
1995-6:
Brenley Jefferd (Canadian?)
1999-0
"Kwik" Ajet (Nigeria.) How we mourned that he wasn't a keeper - then he'd have been "Kwik" Save.
Alain Kwedi Mbongo (Cameroon)
2000-1
Bjarni Larusson (Iceland)
2001-2
Stephane Leoni (France)
Jason Batty (New Zealand)
Rudy Torres, Fernando Garcia (Spain)
2003-4
Fahrudin Kuruzovic (Bosnia)
Desbon Bushiri (Burundi)

(I am not making these up, but some may be made-up names to protect the identies of traillists, I suppose.)

2004-5
Michael Ploeger (Holland)
Pablo D'Olivera (Brazil)
2005-6
Thomas Boden (Germany)
The Aforementioned Honour Gombami
Ahmel Tchakounte (Cameroon)
2005-6
Gyorgi Kiss (Hungary)
2007-8
George Santos (French-born)
2008-9
Omar Garcia (Spain)
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Posted 27 November 2009 - 12:02 AM

View PostStuart Basson, on Nov 26 2009, 11:54 PM, said:

Great call.

An incomplete lists of recent-ish foreign triallists who may not all have played at Saltergate:
1995-6:
Brenley Jefferd (Canadian?)
1999-0
"Kwik" Ajet (Nigeria.) How we mourned that he wasn't a keeper - then he'd have been "Kwik" Save.
Alain Kwedi Mbongo (Cameroon)
2000-1
Bjarni Larusson (Iceland)
2001-2
Stephane Leoni (France)
Jason Batty (New Zealand)
Rudy Torres, Fernando Garcia (Spain)
2003-4
Fahrudin Kuruzovic (Bosnia)
Desbon Bushiri (Burundi)

(I am not making these up, but some may be made-up names to protect the identies of traillists, I suppose.)

2004-5
Michael Ploeger (Holland)
Pablo D'Olivera (Brazil)
2005-6
Thomas Boden (Germany)
The Aforementioned Honour Gombami
Ahmel Tchakounte (Cameroon)
2005-6
Gyorgi Kiss (Hungary)
2007-8
George Santos (French-born)
2008-9
Omar Garcia (Spain)

You must remember RAICH CARTER, I saw him play for Hull City way back
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Posted 27 November 2009 - 01:56 AM

Why restrict the list to those who played, just as relevant could be famous names sat watching, only this year we've had the legendary Sven....

add to this the odd famous actor, think damned united or the Eastenders charity team in the 80's
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Posted 27 November 2009 - 08:56 AM

Stu, haven't 3 from St Kitts & Nevis played at Saltergate? What about Sagi Burton, ex-Shrewsbury town centre half?
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Posted 27 November 2009 - 10:04 AM

We need a wiki, lets put the countries on a page in a - z format and then people can add players or suggestions. Be interesting to see if we could get a player from every country who has played at saltergate.
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Posted 27 November 2009 - 10:06 AM

View PostHaslandboi, on Nov 27 2009, 08:59 AM, said:

Stu, haven't 3 from St Kitts & Nevis played at Saltergate? What about Sagi Burton, ex-Shrewsbury town centre half?


He has, but has he played for us on any sort of trial? My list of numbers was for players who had played for us in FL matches but if Burton has had any sort of trial here, I'd be keen to know more.

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View PostTown_Fan, on Nov 27 2009, 10:07 AM, said:

We need a wiki, lets put the countries on a page in a - z format and then people can add players or suggestions. Be interesting to see if we could get a player from every country who has played at saltergate.

Neat idea. It's not something I've ever set up before, so if there's a volunteer with a bit of time to do it...?
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Posted 27 November 2009 - 10:06 AM

My bad, I thought you were just naming players who'd played at Saltergate, not for us :excl:
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Posted 27 November 2009 - 10:07 AM

View PostStuart Basson, on Nov 27 2009, 10:09 AM, said:

Neat idea. It's not something I've ever set up before, so if there's a volunteer with a bit of time to do it...?


Is that hint? I'll have a look see. It's Friday I'm sure the NHS can survive me having a play with the intenet. It seems to every other day.
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Posted 27 November 2009 - 10:15 AM

View PostHaslandboi, on Nov 27 2009, 10:09 AM, said:

My bad, I thought you were just naming players who'd played at Saltergate, not for us :excl:


I think the order should be, played for us, played for someone else, managed someone else and then any tenuous links after that.
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Posted 27 November 2009 - 10:44 AM

OK Wiki created

http://saltergatenat...x.php/Main_Page

Please edit as you see fit. I've put a couple on there as a start. Please note that I cut and paste the list from the united nations list and it added entry dates and I can't be bothered to remove all of them so I think I got to Iraq and then got fed up.

Let me know if theres any problems.
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