[Spire-Power]

JonB, on 02 September 2015 - 09:31 AM, said:

I thought it had been mentioned previously that we dont insure players against injuries as the costs outweigh the benefits or something along those lines.

If so, it's at least £100k out of the budget straight down the drain. Bad news all round..unlucky Angel, unlucky CFC.

[lindo-spireite]

JonB, on 02 September 2015 - 09:31 AM, said:

I thought it had been mentioned previously that we dont insure players against injuries as the costs outweigh the benefits or something along those lines.

Wow, this surely can't be true?!

No doubt the fans will be at blame for not turning out

[The Peoples Champion]

lindo-spireite, on 02 September 2015 - 09:38 AM, said:

Wow, this surely can't be true?!

No doubt the fans will be at blame for not turning out

And then the fans will blame...".........


Alan Biggs

[Goku]

I dun a Google cos I've got a day off. An ACL rupture/tear is the same thing but the tear can be partial or complete. A complete tear is more common than a partial one. However, it's not really looked at like that - it's common that you can't return to your normal level of physical activity when you have a partial tear so it's looked at in terms of 'functional' or 'non-functional'. If it's a functional partial tear then you can go back to whatever you were doing without too much issue (unsure if this is purely relevant for your average Joe, though - presumably this isn't the case for well-paid professional athletes) but if you get a non-functional partial tear then you've torn enough of your ACL fibres to make your knee no longer feel stable. There are two ways to go about this - an ACL Reconstruction or an ACL Augmentation. Reconstruction repairs/replaces both parts of the ruptured ligament. In an augmentation, part of your ACL is unaffected and remains untouched so you only need, say, one part of the ligament repaired/replaced. This is better for the knee in the long run when compared to a reconstruction.

I haven't been able to confirm the recovery time difference between a Reconstrucion or an Augmentation, maybe this is something CPS could help with? I keep seeing 6-9 months.

This post has been edited by Goku: 02 September 2015 - 09:58 AM

[Spire-Power]

Goku, on 02 September 2015 - 09:56 AM, said:

I dun a Google cos I've got a day off. An ACL rupture/tear is the same thing but the tear can be partial or complete. A complete tear is more common than a partial one. However, it's not really looked at like that - it's common that you can't return to your normal level of physical activity when you have a partial tear so it's looked at in terms of 'functional' or 'non-functional'. If it's a functional partial tear then you can go back to whatever you were doing without too much issue (unsure if this is purely relevant for your average Joe, though - presumably this isn't the case for well-paid professional athletes) but if you get a non-functional partial tear then you've torn enough of your ACL fibres to make your knee no longer feel stable. There are two ways to go about this - an ACL Reconstruction or an ACL Augmentation. Reconstruction repairs/replaces both parts of the ruptured ligament. In an augmentation, part of your ACL is unaffected and remains untouched so you only need, say, one part of the ligament repaired/replaced. This is better for the knee in the long run when compared to a reconstruction.

I haven't been able to confirm the recovery time difference between a Reconstrucion or an Augmentation, maybe this is something CPS could help with? I keep seeing 6-9 months.

Whichever, he's gonna be out most if not all season by the sound of it

[azul]

The Peoples Champion, on 02 September 2015 - 09:47 AM, said:

And then the fans will blame...".........


Alan Biggs

Too be honest, I'd much rather find out about this injury when the injured party is known, when the extent of the injury is known and period of recovery is known

These kind of injuries can end players careers

This post has been edited by azul: 02 September 2015 - 10:41 AM

[azul]

Spire-Power, on 02 September 2015 - 09:35 AM, said:

If so, it's at least £100k out of the budget straight down the drain. Bad news all round..unlucky Angel, unlucky CFC.

Unlucky Saunders, the saying is correct, better to be lucky than good.

Apart from Drew we've been lucky with this kind of thing during the PC era

As fat as insurance is concerned I doubt it extends past the medical expenses

[JonB]

lindo-spireite, on 02 September 2015 - 09:38 AM, said:

Wow, this surely can't be true?!

No doubt the fans will be at blame for not turning out

Fairly sure it was mentioned on here in the past but i could be wrong....

[Phil V 72]

Random questions -

Would we have the budget to get a loan signing, at least for a month?

If so, what position? Should we cover RB and move O'Neill into midfield or get a like for like midfield replacement?

Would it be worth getting a few free agents on trial to see if they're any good? Will a free agent come for a smaller wage if they are currently without a club?

[JonB]

Alan Biggs
Fingers crossed for Angel Martinez, the Chesterfield player injured in training yesterday. Having a scan today, I believe.No further details

[calvin plummers socks]

Eastander, on 02 September 2015 - 09:24 AM, said:

Why ? -does the gospel according to 'Socksy' a 'Forum Sport Injury Specialist', have more credence than that of those despicable 'Twitter Journos'

Lol cheers for that!

[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

lindo-spireite, on 02 September 2015 - 07:16 AM, said:

Incredibly unlucky, interested to see what cps has to say

He said he was 80% sure it was a white man that tackled him

[azul]

JonB, on 02 September 2015 - 11:22 AM, said:

Alan Biggs
Fingers crossed for Angel Martinez, the Chesterfield player injured in training yesterday. Having a scan today, I believe.No further details

Obviously he's been reading the message board or he has been briefed by one of its members

This post has been edited by azul: 02 September 2015 - 11:41 AM

[Wooden Spoon]

Ernie Ernie Ernie said:

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He said he was 80% sure it was a white man that tackled him

LOL

[fishini]

Ernie Ernie Ernie, on 02 September 2015 - 11:37 AM, said:

He said he was 80% sure it was a white man that tackled him

Dont ask the fool for evidence though

[Bluekent]

fishini, on 02 September 2015 - 11:46 AM, said:

Dont ask the fool for evidence though

Has he still gone missing from that thread?

[Sabreman]

Bluekent, on 02 September 2015 - 11:51 AM, said:

Has he still gone missing from that thread?

Because he made himself look a complete bell end so he is now pretending it doesn't exist, the man is full of ****

[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

Phil V 72, on 02 September 2015 - 10:52 AM, said:

Random questions -

Would we have the budget to get a loan signing, at least for a month?

If so, what position? Should we cover RB and move O'Neill into midfield or get a like for like midfield replacement?

Would it be worth getting a few free agents on trial to see if they're any good? Will a free agent come for a smaller wage if they are currently without a club?

As O'Neil is a midfielder it makes more sense to bring in a Rb. the budget question is somewhat irrelevant as we need one and we will have to find the money, or go over budget, it's just one of those things

[azul]

Ernie Ernie Ernie, on 02 September 2015 - 12:43 PM, said:

As O'Neil is a midfielder it makes more sense to bring in a Rb. the budget question is somewhat irrelevant as we need one and we will have to find the money, or go over budget, it's just one of those things

Although these 4 new players and the new contract offers will have undoubtably eaten a large chuck of budget, I'd be disappointed if we've used up all the outgoing player wages, plus this 30% of incoming transfer fees already

It is pretty plain with a couple of injuries that the squad is stretched in certain areas, that would be very bad planning if we'e spent up

[calvin plummers socks]

Sabreman, on 02 September 2015 - 11:53 AM, said:

Because he made himself look a complete bell end so he is now pretending it doesn't exist, the man is full of ****

I suggest thinking before calling people a bell end.

Tried to DM you but your box is full

This post has been edited by calvin plummers socks: 02 September 2015 - 02:21 PM