Ukip
#1
Posted 10 October 2014 - 04:33 AM
While in Europe, Germany, yes Germany, slips into recession.
The great Euro experiment is over, its just that the EU political elite don't realise it yet. I hope they do before any more damage is done.
#2
Posted 10 October 2014 - 06:46 AM
a kick in the balls, on 10 October 2014 - 04:33 AM, said:
While in Europe, Germany, yes Germany, slips into recession.
The great Euro experiment is over, its just that the EU political elite don't realise it yet. I hope they do before any more damage is done.
The results also show, and the general election swing to UKIP may not be as severe, that the decision of Clegg to go into coalition with the Tories looks like a total suicide mission for the party. Less than 2000 people voted for them last night , 1457 in Manchester and under 500 in Clacton, where they were beat into 5 place by the Greens!
#3
Posted 10 October 2014 - 10:37 AM
Too much apathy out there - challenge is to get more people engaged with their politics and not just moaning about it.
#4
Posted 10 October 2014 - 02:48 PM
Mr Mercury, on 10 October 2014 - 06:46 AM, said:
Yeah, they look finished
HistoricWarwick, on 10 October 2014 - 10:37 AM, said:
Too much apathy out there - challenge is to get more people engaged with their politics and not just moaning about it.
37% wasn't it?
#5
Posted 10 October 2014 - 02:56 PM
#6
Posted 10 October 2014 - 03:50 PM
#7
Posted 10 October 2014 - 05:37 PM
#8
Posted 10 October 2014 - 05:48 PM
martatcross, on 10 October 2014 - 05:37 PM, said:
I don't think it is this time mate..I think there is a genuine mood change in the country.
#9
Posted 10 October 2014 - 06:06 PM
spireitetoo, on 10 October 2014 - 03:50 PM, said:
And the H+M seat? previously held by a majority of thousands, now a majority of just 617?
A supposed "safe" seat reduced to a couple of hundred majority - how about marginal seats? How will the Labour party and the wet blanket Milliband do in these?
Mr Mercury is right - this isn't a protest vote - the protest vote was a few years ago in the Euro elections. Nothing changed. UKIP is now a real political threat to Westminster.
#10
Posted 10 October 2014 - 06:16 PM
a kick in the balls, on 10 October 2014 - 06:06 PM, said:
A supposed "safe" seat reduced to a couple of hundred majority - how about marginal seats? How will the Labour party and the wet blanket Milliband do in these?
Mr Mercury is right - this isn't a protest vote - the protest vote was a few years ago in the Euro elections. Nothing changed. UKIP is now a real political threat to Westminster.
sorry mate but I dont agree they have won one seat and I dont see them winning anymore
#11
Posted 10 October 2014 - 06:17 PM
The "man in the street " is becoming genuinely distant , for many reasons, from the two main parties , and under Clegg the Lib Dems have gone from the third party to being on the point of oblivion at the next election due to Cleggs deceit whilst forming a coalition. Make no mistake next years election is going to see an earthquake of a result, what it will be I honestly don't know, but things are changing ..the Labour/Tory monopoly is starting to crumble very rapidly.
#12
Posted 10 October 2014 - 06:26 PM
martatcross, on 10 October 2014 - 05:37 PM, said:
A punch on the nose for the Tories who are in power, AND a punch on the nose for Labour who are in opposition?
#13
Posted 10 October 2014 - 06:33 PM
Mr Mercury, on 10 October 2014 - 06:17 PM, said:
The "man in the street " is becoming genuinely distant , for many reasons, from the two main parties , and under Clegg the Lib Dems have gone from the third party to being on the point of oblivion at the next election due to Cleggs deceit whilst forming a coalition. Make no mistake next years election is going to see an earthquake of a result, what it will be I honestly don't know, but things are changing ..the Labour/Tory monopoly is starting to crumble very rapidly.
I consider myself a socialist. I have always voted labour. I would never vote Tory. I will vote UKIP for the foreseeable future.
However, the EU project is deeply flawed and does not do anything for the man in the st. Its undemocratic. It rules by decree from the EU commission, not by parliament. It serves its own political existence not those of the people. It needs to go.
The Westminster elite are career politicians from public schools, all saying the same bland thing. They are not interested in the people, have no idea of the issues the ordinary man faces. it really IS time for a change. Now if UKIP are not the answer you want, you can use UKIP as a vehicle to get the main 2 parties to change.
That is enough for me to vote UKIP.
#16
Posted 10 October 2014 - 08:47 PM
a kick in the balls, on 10 October 2014 - 06:33 PM, said:
However, the EU project is deeply flawed and does not do anything for the man in the st. Its undemocratic. It rules by decree from the EU commission, not by parliament. It serves its own political existence not those of the people. It needs to go.
The Westminster elite are career politicians from public schools, all saying the same bland thing. They are not interested in the people, have no idea of the issues the ordinary man faces. it really IS time for a change. Now if UKIP are not the answer you want, you can use UKIP as a vehicle to get the main 2 parties to change.
That is enough for me to vote UKIP.
I'm not a million miles from your thinking.
#17
Posted 11 October 2014 - 08:52 AM
http://www.telegraph...one-for-us.html
#18
Posted 11 October 2014 - 09:22 AM
bman, on 11 October 2014 - 08:52 AM, said:
http://www.telegraph...one-for-us.html
After decades of buying snake oil from Labour and the Tories I think a lot of people are willing to try a different brand!
#20
Posted 11 October 2014 - 01:56 PM
bman, on 11 October 2014 - 08:52 AM, said:
http://www.telegraph...one-for-us.html
many trade union leaders want out of the EU - they see it as exploiting cheap foreign labour markets.