[Middle East]

Walton Spireite, on 28 August 2016 - 06:49 AM, said:

Have a good holiday.

I am thanks....yesterday's result didn't help with the pee taking I got round the pool at full time though!

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Middle East, on 28 August 2016 - 07:56 AM, said:

I am thanks....yesterday's result didn't help with the pee taking I got round the pool at full time though!

Sorry pal, but as someone who was in exactly your current situation for the infamous ten-niller your pain is minimal.

Infact I refused to believe it until I saw the Sunday papers, thinking it all just wind-up by one of the reps...

[dtp]

Walton Spireite, on 28 August 2016 - 06:52 AM, said:

"Jones is permantly injured"

Something I actually agree with you about - he's not managed 90 minutes since Danny was appointed.

Even if he does come back into the side is he going to be better than young Dion with Gardner in front of him and a more than slow centre-back at the side of him?

[Goku]

dtp, on 28 August 2016 - 08:17 AM, said:

Something I actually agree with you about - he's not managed 90 minutes since Danny was appointed.

Even if he does come back into the side is he going to be better than young Dion with Gardner in front of him and a more than slow centre-back at the side of him?

Y..yes?

[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

dtp, on 28 August 2016 - 08:17 AM, said:

Something I actually agree with you about - he's not managed 90 minutes since Danny was appointed.

Even if he does come back into the side is he going to be better than young Dion with Gardner in front of him and a more than slow centre-back at the side of him?

Of course he is, he's a better full back. Dixon wasn't the worst player in the pitch yesterday and Gardner is a league 2 squad player at best.

Ched would thrive with Jones whipping balls in as he really does know how to cross a ball for the strikers. Sadly though he's becoming the new Talbot and is always out.

SEB, Jones, Tommy, Angel, O'Neil, what you reckon 15k a week not available to play? There's a lot of budget tied up there.

[dtp]

Ernie Ernie Ernie, on 28 August 2016 - 10:36 AM, said:

Of course he is, he's a better full back. Dixon wasn't the worst player in the pitch yesterday and Gardner is a league 2 squad player at best.

Ched would thrive with Jones whipping balls in as he really does know how to cross a ball for the strikers. Sadly though he's becoming the new Talbot and is always out.

SEB, Jones, Tommy, Angel, O'Neil, what you reckon 15k a week not available to play? There's a lot of budget tied up there.

However, Ernie, we didn't lose yesterday because the team lacked Jones crossing the ball for the strikers. We lost it because of defensive frailties. Donohue was no worse than McGinn whilst the two centre-backs were shown up for their lack of pace and, at times, looked as if they hadn't previously played together.

[Spireite-Karl]

dtp, on 28 August 2016 - 10:42 AM, said:

However, Ernie, we didn't lose yesterday because the team lacked Jones crossing the ball for the strikers. We lost it because of defensive frailties. Donohue was no worse than McGinn whilst the two centre-backs were shown up for their lack of pace and, at times, looked as if they hadn't previously played together.

McGinn had a real stinker yesterday, though as you say that goes for all of our back five and to single out one is unfair when they all play that bad.

[dtp]

Spireite-Karl, on 28 August 2016 - 10:54 AM, said:

McGinn had a real stinker yesterday, though as you say that goes for all of our back five and to single out one is unfair when they all play that bad.

Agreed - so why is it that certain posters always seem to want to accuse and name certain players whilst not mentioning others?

[DIFH]

dtp, on 28 August 2016 - 10:42 AM, said:

However, Ernie, we didn't lose yesterday because the team lacked Jones crossing the ball for the strikers. We lost it because of defensive frailties. Donohue was no worse than McGinn whilst the two centre-backs were shown up for their lack of pace and, at times, looked as if they hadn't previously played together.

Generally we lost because we are a soft touch.

[Spire-Heights]

Dave In Footie Heaven, on 28 August 2016 - 11:21 AM, said:

Generally we lost because we are a soft touch.

Generally, we lost because we let more goals in than we scored - Whoooshhh

[firedodger]

Walton Spireite, on 27 August 2016 - 05:50 PM, said:

Worst left back since Clifford Carr. Got some verbal from East Stand for his display. Fully deserved.

Got some verbal which he obviously heard and it obviously distracted him.
And I notice his abuser was so proud of his efforts that he hung about at full time to apologise.
Donohue hasn't asked to be left back and he's doing his best playing out of position. It's a shame as he is a decent footballer, I just hope having to play there doesn't ruin him.

[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

dtp, on 28 August 2016 - 10:42 AM, said:

However, Ernie, we didn't lose yesterday because the team lacked Jones crossing the ball for the strikers. We lost it because of defensive frailties. Donohue was no worse than McGinn whilst the two centre-backs were shown up for their lack of pace and, at times, looked as if they hadn't previously played together.

As I said Donahue wasn't the worst player in the pitch. What I would say is that when Jones plays the opposition have less chance to push on as they are tracking Jones a lot of the time. Yes he gets caught out of position up field at times but that's up to the others to cover. The best form of defence is sometimes attack. Gardner has the awareness of a novice he has nothing to offer at either end of the pitch. Occasionally yesty he got back and helped cover with his pace but he was so far out of his ground to start with it was ridiculous.

[Snowflake McBedwetter]

Ernie Ernie Ernie, on 28 August 2016 - 03:34 PM, said:

As I said Donahue wasn't the worst player in the pitch. What I would say is that when Jones plays the opposition have less chance to push on as they are tracking Jones a lot of the time. Yes he gets caught out of position up field at times but that's up to the others to cover. The best form of defence is sometimes attack. Gardner has the awareness of a novice he has nothing to offer at either end of the pitch. Occasionally yesty he got back and helped cover with his pace but he was so far out of his ground to start with it was ridiculous.

Gardner lacks anything between his ears. Sadly, that isn't likely to change.

In the unlikely event of Gboly staying, i'd like to see him given a go on the left with the intention of making runs inside, and Mitchell given a reasonable run on the right.

Donohue consistently gets singled out because he's not suited to the position he's playing, and as a result is consistently making mistakes that cost us.

[dtp]

KevinArnottsGoldenBoot, on 28 August 2016 - 03:43 PM, said:

Gardner lacks anything between his ears. Sadly, that isn't likely to change.

In the unlikely event of Gboly staying, i'd like to see him given a go on the left with the intention of making runs inside, and Mitchell given a reasonable run on the right.

Donohue consistently gets singled out because he's not suited to the position he's playing, and as a result is consistently making mistakes that cost us.

But, has he actually made more mistakes than Evatt, Hird, McGinn, Nolan, Gardner, O'Shea etc that have cost us?

This post has been edited by dtp: 28 August 2016 - 05:32 PM

[Middle East]

MDCCCLXVI, on 28 August 2016 - 08:01 AM, said:

Sorry pal, but as someone who was in exactly your current situation for the infamous ten-niller your pain is minimal.

Infact I refused to believe it until I saw the Sunday papers, thinking it all just wind-up by one of the reps...

Luckily I went on holiday the day after that one mate!

But returned to find my desk covered in photo copies of shoot magazine's central photo spectacular entitled 'ten-sational' and the office toilet cubicles and the canteen wall, cupboards, draws, etc. etc. were also covered and the quicker I ripped them down the more got put up!

I was also subjected to queries as to whether I had been to tenby or tenerife for my holidays, asked the time at ten past every hour and was told I was looking either tentative or tense for the following 2 weeks....

[lindave]

Westbars Spireite, on 27 August 2016 - 05:54 PM, said:

He isn't a left back so shouldn't be asked to play there.

Too right.

[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

Walton Spireite, on 27 August 2016 - 05:50 PM, said:

Worst left back since Clifford Carr. Got some verbal from East Stand for his display. Fully deserved.

Alan O'Hare, Neil Pointon were worse than Cliff Carr

[Spire-Power]

Middle East, on 28 August 2016 - 06:14 PM, said:

Luckily I went on holiday the day after that one mate!

But returned to find my desk covered in photo copies of shoot magazine's central photo spectacular entitled 'ten-sational' and the office toilet cubicles and the canteen wall, cupboards, draws, etc. etc. were also covered and the quicker I ripped them down the more got put up!

I was also subjected to queries as to whether I had been to tenby or tenerife for my holidays, asked the time at ten past every hour and was told I was looking either tentative or tense for the following 2 weeks....

Seems like it will never be forgot ten

[clarevoyant.]

Ernie Ernie Ernie, on 28 August 2016 - 06:33 PM, said:

Alan O'Hare, Neil Pointon were worse than Cliff Carr

It was mentioned on saturday that Mcginns distribution was akin to John Stirks. Here's hoping it was one off

[60s 70s Spireite]

clarevoyant., on 29 August 2016 - 08:48 AM, said:

It was mentioned on saturday that Mcginns distribution was akin to John Stirks. Here's hoping it was one off

That sent a shiver down my spine.
Do you think Stirk had played a lot of rugby in his youth and he thought the idea was to kick into touch to gain ground?