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The Earl of Chesterfield, on 14 June 2024 - 03:24 PM, said:

There is no govt, it was disbanded. There are no MPs likewise...

And there is a 4 way leaders debate with Sunak, Starmer, Davey and the SNP chap on BBC QT leaders special... now they are chosen based on leading the 4 largest parties, but historical and not current projected polling....

What is labour's policy on immigration, by the way...?

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 14 June 2024 - 01:29 PM, said:

The election is about the future and not the past, but I think they may have mentioned the forecast highest growth rate in Europe over the next 5 years or whatever the stat was. Of course, you dont seem to have mentioned that Labour arent talking about anything in the future other than we will be financially prudent, the extra money will come from growth, you dont need to know any more. I'd say talking about a party saying nothing about something is pretty ironic really...

So you think we should realign (aka rejoin) with Europe over time? Do you think the Scots should have a second bite at independence? And if we dont like the vote for this election can we claim someone lied and ask for another one...?

I dont think 16 year olds should be allowed to vote. We dont think they are old enough to trust with a car, or alcohol, or to take on debt or own property - but they can choose the govt? maybe at the next election there will be free arcade games on the manifesto to appeal to the 16 year olds..

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 14 June 2024 - 02:10 PM, said:

Speaking of democracy, do you think Farage should be allowed to engage in the leaders debate and discuss immigration with Starmer?

fishini, on 14 June 2024 - 01:10 PM, said:

Like Labour the Tories have some interesting views on where the money will come from, and have missed some opportunities to find ways to cut the costs around the NHS and public sector pay. However, unlike Labour they have at least outlined some policies...

Better?

2029s election should be fun, look at these stats....


2030
NHS black hole grows as population ages
One of the biggest dilemmas Sir Keir would face heading into his second term is how to afford huge increases in spending to cope with Britain?s ageing population.

Spending on health is projected to have to increase to 10.1pc of national wealth by 2030, up from 8.1pc at present, as pressure on the NHS and social care grows.

Inevitably that means the Labour leader would have to decide whether to further ramp up taxes on working people to pay for the increasing cost of looking after the elderly.

By 2033 it is projected health spending will hit ?278bn up from the current ?182bn, leaving the Labour leader with an almost ?100bn sized black hole to fill

The huge spike in spending will come about as the end of the decade marks a major demographic tipping point for the UK as, for the first time, one in 10 of the population will be over 75.

At the same time the proportion of under 25s will fall to just a quarter, as Britain becomes an increasingly ageing society.

Mr Mercury, on 14 June 2024 - 12:03 PM, said:

They will have to go some to beat Boris....who also had a big majority. Are you suggesting the public shouldnt be allowed to choose if they keep choosing these idiots..?