[Spartan141]

when i got back to the office in sheffield to play out i reviewed the so called foul a few times and still say it was not a penno no way said it at the time cos i got a good view up there in that gantry and it was from my side of the pitch the view was spot on no peno...the ref got it wrong and the attacker made a meal of it it was him that ran into downs

[Bugerov]

blueblah, on Jan 7 2008, 10:15 PM, said:

when i got back to the office in sheffield to play out i reviewed the so called foul a few times and still say it was not a penno no way said it at the time cos i got a good view up there in that gantry and it was from my side of the pitch the view was spot on no peno...the ref got it wrong and the attacker made a meal of it it was him that ran into downs

Grimsby were awarded a penalty and scored. Get over it.

[Goku]

Disgraceful peno. Even Grimsby fans appealed half-heartedly.

[Bonnyman]

Haslandboi, on Jan 8 2008, 07:59 AM, said:

Disgraceful peno. Even Grimsby fans appealed half-heartedly.

to be fair,i was in line with the ball and what virgin and sw dosent show is the angle that downes was running at,he was veering away from the ball and obstructing their player ,as soon as their was minimal contact in the box their player went down,it was one of those where wherever you were in the ground you couldnt see either the contact between the players or the obstructive run of downes,the ref obviously was best placed to see both,but it was in hindsight a tad harsh

[JonB]

bonnyman, on Jan 8 2008, 08:31 AM, said:

to be fair,i was in line with the ball and what virgin and sw dosent show is the angle that downes was running at,he was veering away from the ball and obstructing their player

Not entirely true because if you watch the highlights on the Sky Show last night the attacker actually veers into Downes and tries to shoulder barge him out of the way and just bounces of him and falls over after kicking the back of Downes leg. At the time i was stood directly in line on the Kop and saw it exactly the same way. Probably wasnt the greatest of defending to let the striker get into that position in the first place but he actually recovered well and got into a position where the striker was going away from goal and was inbetween the ball and the attacker hence the attacker trying to shift him out of the way.

[Bonnyman]

JonB, on Jan 8 2008, 08:49 AM, said:

Not entirely true because if you watch the highlights on the Sky Show last night the attacker actually veers into Downes and tries to shoulder barge him out of the way and just bounces of him and falls over after kicking the back of Downes leg. At the time i was stood directly in line on the Kop and saw it exactly the same way. Probably wasnt the greatest of defending to let the striker get into that position in the first place but he actually recovered well and got into a position where the striker was going away from goal and was inbetween the ball and the attacker hence the attacker trying to shift him out of the way.

not seen the sky highlights,at first in the ground i was convinced downes had obstructed him,but it was on reflection a tad harsh,we just didnt have the rub of the green on the day

[JonB]

bonnyman, on Jan 8 2008, 09:11 AM, said:

not seen the sky highlights,at first in the ground i was convinced downes had obstructed him,but it was on reflection a tad harsh,we just didnt have the rub of the green on the day

Downes never changed direction whilst running whereas the attacker did to try and barge him out of the way, actually fouling him probably, but bounced off him and then kicked the back of Downes leg tripping them both....how that is a pen i will never know. I thought the same at the ground as well.

[spireiteluke]

I must admit I thought it was a penalty but Ive not seen the highlights so I could be wrong. Downes has been costly though with giving penalties lately like Tranmere, Accrington Stanley and Grimsby.

[S18Spireite]

latewinner, on Jan 7 2008, 10:56 PM, said:

Grimsby were awarded a penalty and scored. Get over it.

yes...absolutely...what's done is done

however if we take a look back at what actually happened then we can start absolving the rather harsh blame that AD got on here after the match on Saturday.

Look at Luke's comment above...those who have not watched the highlights automatically assume that Downes was in the wrong.

Let's back the boys...especially when there's such substantial evidence to support them with

[GlobalSpire]

spireiteluke, on Jan 8 2008, 11:16 AM, said:

I must admit I thought it was a penalty but Ive not seen the highlights so I could be wrong. Downes has been costly though with giving penalties lately like Tranmere, Accrington Stanley and Grimsby.

You thought it was a penalty?

How???????????????????

S18Spireite, on Jan 8 2008, 06:44 PM, said:

yes...absolutely...what's done is done

however if we take a look back at what actually happened then we can start absolving the rather harsh blame that AD got on here after the match on Saturday.

Look at Luke's comment above...those who have not watched the highlights automatically assume that Downes was in the wrong.

Let's back the boys...especially when there's such substantial evidence to support them with

Exactly why I started this thread.

[spireiteluke]

GlobalSpire, on Jan 8 2008, 06:48 PM, said:

You thought it was a penalty?

How???????????????????
Exactly why I started this thread.

Looking at it again, it didnt look like a penalty. I were wrong, it just looked like it from where I was.

[Bonnyman]

JonB, on Jan 8 2008, 09:54 AM, said:

Downes never changed direction whilst running whereas the attacker did to try and barge him out of the way, actually fouling him probably, but bounced off him and then kicked the back of Downes leg tripping them both....how that is a pen i will never know. I thought the same at the ground as well.

downes definately veered to the right,i could clearly see it from the kop,i couldnt see the contact properly though,if you werent in line you wouldnt be able to see it,the cameras dont show it

[BlueRover52]

bonnyman, on Jan 9 2008, 01:45 PM, said:

downes definately veered to the right,i could clearly see it from the kop,i couldnt see the contact properly though,if you werent in line you wouldnt be able to see it,the cameras dont show it

What was he expected to do? Couldn't make much of a challenge veering to the left! I wasn't far off the action and I can tell you there was little contact. Never a penalty.

[Bonnyman]

BlueRover52, on Jan 9 2008, 02:46 PM, said:

What was he expected to do? Couldn't make much of a challenge veering to the left! I wasn't far off the action and I can tell you there was little contact. Never a penalty.

think we might as well draw a line through this thread now ,its happened and has gone

[Blueprint]

spireiteluke, on Jan 9 2008, 08:53 AM, said:

Looking at it again, it didnt look like a penalty. I were wrong, it just looked like it from where I was.

Maybe the ref was viewing form the same angle as you then.

[monte]

problem is downes has a dirty reputation now, thats 3-4 pens in his last 8 games he's given away