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#201 spirette

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Posted 11 January 2008 - 01:16 PM

cfcblues, on Jan 11 2008, 01:04 PM, said:

The lad in question is a good mate of mine, and to say he got what he deserved when you don't know him or the circumstances is way off the mark. Do you know why he was walking down the road? Why he may have got dragged into whatever happened?

People really shouldn't believe everything that they read in the newspapers...

Anyway, back to the original thread and topic, if anyone gets what they deserve, it's them idiots from Grimsby, knowingly coming on our end when they're on banning orders, they shouldn't have even been within 2miles of the ground? Hopegully the Chesterfield police will get off their high horses, and go for them lot who came to start the trouble, not punish town fans again who may have got caught up by no choice of their own, ie. the lad who lost his jumper, phone and season ticket...

Another thing I noticed, why did they do it right next to the emergency exits? Surely taking an end was clearing it out, not getting smacked then rescued by the police?

He pleaded guilty

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Posted 11 January 2008 - 01:20 PM

Maybe so, but like I say i'm not going to justify anything to people on here. I just don't think he should be tarred with that brush when people don't know him or the full extent of the circumstances...

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Posted 11 January 2008 - 01:22 PM

cfcblues, on Jan 11 2008, 01:11 PM, said:

Especially someone who sits at home reading the FA rules & regulations...

try at work knobcheese

I read the rules and reg once out of couriosity to see if spectators are included in a certain section which we'd been caught under against Rotherha, Anyway if he was innocent why did he plead gulity for affray? Means he admitted it.

I dont beleive everything thats in th papers anyway but if the paper got something wrong why not write in im sure that they will write a editorial note apologising fir getting the information wrong.

If you like i'd gladly get the email address for you to make your greivence.

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Posted 11 January 2008 - 01:23 PM

cfcblues, on Jan 11 2008, 01:20 PM, said:

the brush of convicted football hooligan? shouldnt have plead guilty. shall we start a campaign to 'free the barlborough one'?

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Posted 11 January 2008 - 01:29 PM

cfcblues, on Jan 11 2008, 01:04 PM, said:

why did they do it right next to the emergency exits? Surely taking an end was clearing it out, not getting smacked then rescued by the police?

i dont think it matters where they did it they shouldn't have even been in the Kop to start with. As you say 2 were on banning orders and shouldn't have even been close to the ground.

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Posted 11 January 2008 - 02:31 PM

mr. smith, on Jan 11 2008, 01:23 PM, said:

the brush of convicted football hooligan? shouldnt have plead guilty. shall we start a campaign to 'free the barlborough one'?

Would 90 days in prison and a 6 year match ban be deemed as serious punishment for a hooligan? It reads as very serious punishment to me.

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Posted 11 January 2008 - 02:36 PM

MP-Spire, on Jan 11 2008, 02:31 PM, said:

Would 90 days in prison and a 6 year match ban be deemed as serious punishment for a hooligan? It reads as very serious punishment to me.

if caught beyond reasonable doubt of hooliganism it should be a ban for life. Its not wanted in the game. the fans dont like it nor want to see or be associated with it. The club dont want it here the players dont want it here either.

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Posted 11 January 2008 - 02:59 PM

MP-Spire, on Jan 11 2008, 02:31 PM, said:

Would 90 days in prison and a 6 year match ban be deemed as serious punishment for a hooligan? It reads as very serious punishment to me.

Considering sentencing guidelines, his age and a guilty plea it is a stiff sentence. There might have been aggrevating factors such as the violence being organised or pre-planned. The maximim sentence at a Magistrates Court for a guilty plea is effectively four months.

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Posted 11 January 2008 - 03:21 PM

I thought the maximum at a Magistrates court was 6 months? Might be less if guilty though as I know they are a little more lenient...

Be interesting to see what the Grimsby lot get, and what happens to the Club. Neither CFC or GTFC can be pulled up on it though surely.

Can anyone see Mark Turner & Co raiding addresses in Grimsby & Cleethorpes like Cheshire police did here? I somehow think not.

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Posted 11 January 2008 - 03:24 PM

cfcblues, on Jan 11 2008, 03:21 PM, said:

Neither CFC or GTFC can be pulled up on it though surely.

Can anyone see Mark Turner & Co raiding addresses in Grimsby & Cleethorpes like Cheshire police did here? I somehow think not.

why not?? its called bring the game into disrepute

and i couldnt see Turner n Co doing it. i could see the local bill doing it tho. The raided houses in Dundee over a brawl that broke out between Dundee (or utd) and Millwall pre season

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Posted 11 January 2008 - 04:16 PM

cfcblues, on Jan 11 2008, 03:21 PM, said:

I thought the maximum at a Magistrates court was 6 months? Might be less if guilty though as I know they are a little more lenient...

I was knocking a third off for the guilty plea.

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Posted 12 January 2008 - 02:31 PM

spireiteblue, on Jan 5 2008, 09:46 PM, said:

They escorted 2 round to the away end which i cannot understand if they are found to be in the home end looking for trouble then surely they should be arrested or ejected.

for ur information the 2 men that was walked around compton street to the away end was taken to the police room and we told the police what they were there for and we left them to be dealt with and later the police brought them back to the away end what can we the stewards do if the police go over our heads we was told the trouble makers was not with the group but we no now that they was in the kop to get a slap but whot makes us the stewards made was that the police spotters from fish lad said that it was ok for the group to go in the ground wot are we do to

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Posted 12 January 2008 - 02:36 PM

hazydayz, on Jan 12 2008, 02:31 PM, said:

and the stewards on the home end of the ground dont come up with away fans in the home end very many times so they dont no how to deal with it like we do on the away end and if every one would stop getting on the stewards back and try and help in many matters it would help us all out and if people think its easy to be a football steward then all i can say to u you all is come and train to be one and u will see its not a easy job as we do get a little bit of trouble from home fans wen we try to keep they kop gangways clear if they carnt to do then the fa while reduce the crowd and then the club will lose out on money and at the end of the day we all dont want that we all want the crowd to be as big as we all can get in

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Posted 12 January 2008 - 02:44 PM

hazydayz, on Jan 12 2008, 02:31 PM, said:

I am not saying anything about the stewards,they are there to a job and as far as i am concerned i let them get on with it,as for the 2 being escorted past us on Compton i didn't watch where they went when they passed us all i was bothered about was the game.

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Posted 14 January 2008 - 10:25 AM

hazydayz, on Jan 12 2008, 02:31 PM, said:

if thats the case whereby stewards left them to be sorted out by someone else someone should have waited with them and once dealt with, had them ejected from the ground. regardless what the police say, stadium control have the final say and should have kicked them out.