[Forever a Spireite]

Message for Moondog!
I good friend works in Conferencing and Banqueting. Can you ask Carson what arrangements he is making for zero hours staff who work at the stadium when its open. She has tried her manager at the Proact but the silence is deafening! These people work hard and deserve to know what’s happening. If you can get any response I know it would be much appreciated at this difficult time. Cheers Mark. John

[moondog]

Forever a Spireite, on 01 April 2020 - 04:06 PM, said:

Message for Moondog!
I good friend works in Conferencing and Banqueting. Can you ask Carson what arrangements he is making for zero hours staff who work at the stadium when its open. She has tried her manager at the Proact but the silence is deafening! These people work hard and deserve to know what’s happening. If you can get any response I know it would be much appreciated at this difficult time. Cheers Mark. John

Hi John, I asked this morning what was happening with the staff as some clubs were making announcements. I haven't had a reply yet

The last I heard (on 22 March) the club were looking into the Government compensation plan.

[Forever a Spireite]

moondog, on 01 April 2020 - 04:19 PM, said:

Hi John, I asked this morning what was happening with the staff as some clubs were making announcements. I haven't had a reply yet

The last I heard (on 22 March) the club were looking into the Government compensation plan.

Thanks Mark I’ll report back!

[azul]

moondog, on 01 April 2020 - 04:19 PM, said:

Hi John, I asked this morning what was happening with the staff as some clubs were making announcements. I haven't had a reply yet

The last I heard (on 22 March) the club were looking into the Government compensation plan.

If the club is looking into, they should find that furloughed zero contract workers are part of the 80% scheme as long as they are on PAYE. I think it is based on average earnings and you’d hope all club employees are on the tax system. I think the problem comes with smaller and possibly disreputable companies not bothering to find out.

[moondog]

I've now had a reply

"Sorry for not getting back to you earlier, still awaiting some kind of direction from the NL regarding Players and wages. The staff will be written to and placed on Furlough. Zero hours staff must have worked for us for over a year to be eligible as last February's wage is taken into account for the calculation. They will all receive the 80% from Gov"

[azul]

moondog, on 01 April 2020 - 05:03 PM, said:

I've now had a reply

"Sorry for not getting back to you earlier, still awaiting some kind of direction from the NL regarding Players and wages. The staff will be written to and placed on Furlough. Zero hours staff must have worked for us for over a year to be eligible as last February's wage is taken into account for the calculation. They will all receive the 80% from Gov"

I think he needs to check the one year rule. It’s normally done on the previous year(s) earnings but I think there is a workaround who haven’t got a years service? Some of the accountants and bosses on this message board should be able to confirm. Is the Trust in a similar position?

This post has been edited by azul: 01 April 2020 - 05:24 PM

[forevablue]

azul, on 01 April 2020 - 05:19 PM, said:

I think he needs to check the one year rule. It’s normally done on the previous year(s) earnings but I think there is a workaround who haven’t got a years service? Some of the accountants and bosses on this message board should be able to confirm. Is the Trust in a similar position?

This is one small extract from the Gov.Uk website:-

"Employees you can claim for

Furloughed employees must have been on your PAYE payroll on 28 February 2020, and can be on any type of contract, including:

full-time employees
part-time employees
employees on agency contracts
employees on flexible or zero-hour contracts

The scheme also covers employees who were made redundant since 28 February 2020, if they are rehired by their employer.

To be eligible for the subsidy, when on furlough, an employee can not undertake work for or on behalf of the organisation. This includes providing services or generating revenue. While on furlough, the employee’s wage will be subject to usual income tax and other deductions.

This scheme is only for employees on agency contracts who are not working.

If an employee is working, but on reduced hours, or for reduced pay, they will not be eligible for this scheme and you will have to continue paying the employee through your payroll and pay their salary subject to the terms of the employment contract you agreed.

Employers should discuss with their staff and make any changes to the employment contract by agreement. When employers are making decisions in relation to the process, including deciding who to offer furlough to, equality and discrimination laws will apply in the usual way.

To be eligible for the subsidy employers should write to their employee confirming that they have been furloughed and keep a record of this communication.

Employees hired after 28 February 2020 cannot be furloughed or claimed for in accordance with this scheme.

You do not need to place all your employees on furlough. However, those employees who you do place on furlough cannot undertake work for you.
If your employee is on unpaid leave

Employees on unpaid leave cannot be furloughed, unless they were placed on unpaid leave after 28 February."

I hope that all of you are keeping as well as possible under the circumstances, cheers Paul.

[moondog]

azul, on 01 April 2020 - 05:19 PM, said:

I think he needs to check the one year rule. It’s normally done on the previous year(s) earnings but I think there is a workaround who haven’t got a years service? Some of the accountants and bosses on this message board should be able to confirm. Is the Trust in a similar position?

The last I heard a week ago almost all staff were to be furloughed but with a commitment to pay 100% of wages until June

[azul]

I would think that includes everyone at the club then. It’s hard to believe anyone has been taken on in March. Hopefully nobody is being paid cas in hand.

I think the real problem (and not just CFC) is how long this can continue. Businesses have a lot more expenditure than wages and how long can government keep the scheme going

[bucko]

From a furloughing point of you, you had to be on the payroll of the company at the end of February 2020 to be entitled to furlough.

Anyone employed on or after 1st March 2020 would not be entitled furlough.

This post has been edited by bucko: 01 April 2020 - 06:21 PM

[Spire-Power]

azul, on 01 April 2020 - 05:37 PM, said:

I would think that includes everyone at the club then. It’s hard to believe anyone has been taken on in March. Hopefully nobody is being paid cas in hand.

I think the real problem (and not just CFC) is how long this can continue. Businesses have a lot more expenditure than wages and how long can government keep the scheme going

Who can we blame?

[azul]

Spire-Power, on 01 April 2020 - 07:01 PM, said:

Who can we blame?

We can decide when we see which of the G7 countries get back to normal life first and who is last

[Spire-Power]

azul, on 01 April 2020 - 07:21 PM, said:

We can decide when we see which of the G7 countries get back to normal life first and who is last

My moneys on Germany

[Mr Mercury]

Spire-Power, on 01 April 2020 - 07:35 PM, said:

My moneys on Germany

Especially if they keep reporting the figures in the way they do!
Edit..apologies for taking this off thread on what is a very important issue for those impacted.

This post has been edited by Mr Mercury: 01 April 2020 - 07:42 PM

[dim view]

Spire-Power, on 01 April 2020 - 07:01 PM, said:

Who can we blame?

well, I'm always reluctant to blame our Ashley, but the contents of this thread appear to suggest he doesn't understand furloughing entitlement. Perhaps I've just missed summat.

[60s 70s Spireite]

Zero hour contracts are covered here
If your pay varies (because you are on a zero hours contract or flexible working contract, for example), the 80 per cent limit will be applied to the same month’s earnings from a previous year, the average monthly earnings for the 2019/20 tax year or an average of their monthly earnings since they started work — whichever is highest.