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#101 User is offline   Snowflake McBedwetter 

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Posted 16 October 2023 - 11:22 AM

View PostJonB, on 16 October 2023 - 11:01 AM, said:

The Quigley header v Bromley is a prime example of the approach. In the build up to that goal there were a couple of earlier chances to cross it but from poorer positions and with no real proper target in the box that was in a good position to win the header. We work it round dragging them about and finally work a much better crossing position that also gives Quigley chance to lose his marker and head at goal from a much better position leading to the goal.

It is that patience word and making the opposition work really hard to the point they make mistakes that we can punish. In a way supporters need to be patient with the build up play as well....not just the usual shouts of get it forward that accompany it at times.


Agreed.

It's a fine line between patience and dawdling though. What we're seeing this season, unlike last, is that players are confident enough to make passes that they weren't doing last season. Again, this is down to our good run of form, better players and quality coaching.
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Posted 16 October 2023 - 12:46 PM

View Postjack bauer, on 16 October 2023 - 11:15 AM, said:

didn't make the game on saturday, question for anyone who did, did Oldaker give a decent account of himself, aside from the goal, how did he play? does he give cook enough of a headache to challenge jones? Jones has been outstanding again this season and personally i'm yet to be fully convinced by DJ but you'd hope he can push for a place as we will need him at some point.

I thought he played ok and a great goal but for me 4th choice CM behind NAYLOR, Jones and Banks. No headache at all for Cook. NAYLOR and Jones all day long are the first choice pair.
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Posted 16 October 2023 - 01:53 PM

View PostSnowflake McBedwetter, on 16 October 2023 - 11:19 AM, said:

I think he's tweaked it.

But would agree the main determining factor is the quality of the players bought in and their natural aggressive tendencies as quality attack minded players (sometimes in spite of PC's direction!). Also confidence is high - Quigley being a great example - and this season there is competition for every single position on the park.

Also hats off to Danny Webb for vastly improving a long neglected aspect of the game. Something I think PC has decided to address, and I'm happy to note it's under his direction it's happened.


Paul Cook definitely ate your dog.

You’re even happy to give Webb credit but still nothing for PC. He’s basically in no win situation with people like you - even if he gets us promoted, you’ll never give him credit because it’s all down to the budget.
Let’s not mention how well he’s utilised the budget to bring in pure quality though… nor the eye for talent he has… nor the improvement in other players (JQ and Horton as examples) due to his coaching… not the fact we’re top of the league averaging 2.5pts per game.
But you’re right, my little bed wetting friend, this must be all ‘in spite of PC’.
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Posted 16 October 2023 - 09:53 PM

Kettering have just released a behind the scenes video, which includes the managers pre match team talk and game plan.

https://youtu.be/V7M...DrKTUynUzsCmHd4
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Posted 16 October 2023 - 10:15 PM

View PostFact Checker, on 16 October 2023 - 01:53 PM, said:

Paul Cook definitely ate your dog.

You’re even happy to give Webb credit but still nothing for PC. He’s basically in no win situation with people like you - even if he gets us promoted, you’ll never give him credit because it’s all down to the budget.
Let’s not mention how well he’s utilised the budget to bring in pure quality though… nor the eye for talent he has… nor the improvement in other players (JQ and Horton as examples) due to his coaching… not the fact we’re top of the league averaging 2.5pts per game.
But you’re right, my little bed wetting friend, this must be all ‘in spite of PC’.


Reading, is seemingly not your strong point.

A) "Again, this is down to our good run of form, better players and quality coaching."

B) "the main determining factor is the quality of the players bought in.."

C) "Something I think PC has decided to address, and I'm happy to note it's under his direction it's happened."

The 'in spite' point was in relation to Gokus comment. You're like one of thos Facebook 'Fact' Checkers. Perpetually wrong.

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Posted 17 October 2023 - 03:53 AM

View PostSnowflake McBedwetter, on 16 October 2023 - 10:15 PM, said:

Reading, is seemingly not your strong point.

A) "Again, this is down to our good run of form, better players and quality coaching."

B) "the main determining factor is the quality of the players bought in.."

C) "Something I think PC has decided to address, and I'm happy to note it's under his direction it's happened."

The 'in spite' point was in relation to Gokus comment. You're like one of thos Facebook 'Fact' Checkers. Perpetually wrong.


Anyone with eyes can see that the underlying tones of your posts are inherently against PC. Let’s call a spade a spade, and stop pretending otherwise shall we.
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Posted 17 October 2023 - 10:29 AM

View PostFact Checker, on 17 October 2023 - 03:53 AM, said:

Anyone with eyes can see that the underlying tones of your posts are inherently against PC. Let’s call a spade a spade, and stop pretending otherwise shall we.


So, aside from my praise of the players bought in (by Cook), the coaching (by Cook) and the vast improvement of set pieces under his (PAUL COOKS) direction... I'm pursuing a hate campaign. Against, Paul Cook.

The faux outrage on this board is truly pathetic. And in your case - as a self appointed 'Fact Checker' :lol: - you'd be advised to try a bit harder at your craft. Or alternatively, pursue something more worthwhile than trying to manufacture arguments with strangers on the internet.

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Posted 19 October 2023 - 06:53 PM

Fact Checker said:

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Paul Cook definitely ate your dog.

You're even happy to give Webb credit but still nothing for PC. He's basically in no win situation with people like you - even if he gets us promoted, you'll never give him credit because it's all down to the budget.
Let's not mention how well he's utilised the budget to bring in pure quality though… nor the eye for talent he has… nor the improvement in other players (JQ and Horton as examples) due to his coaching… not the fact we're top of the league averaging 2.5pts per game.
But you're right, my little bed wetting friend, this must be all 'in spite of PC'.

Mr Fact Checker please answer my last post if you want to criticize anyone. Let’s be quite honest any manager with a bloated budget at this level deserves the sack if he isn’t able to deliver promotion at the end of the season. Was Parkinson at Wrexham the best manager in the NL last year in your opinion ?
Let’s be fair to all the other managers with a shoestring budget please.


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Posted 20 October 2023 - 03:46 AM

View PostCum on u blues, on 19 October 2023 - 06:53 PM, said:

Mr Fact Checker please answer my last post if you want to criticize anyone. Let’s be quite honest any manager with a bloated budget at this level deserves the sack if he isn’t able to deliver promotion at the end of the season. Was Parkinson at Wrexham the best manager in the NL last year in your opinion ?
Let’s be fair to all the other managers with a shoestring budget please.


I don’t disagree at all that PC has to get promotion this year, but he’s currently on track to achieve just that, whilst playing a brand of football that would grace league one. If that continues then he’s done a very good job. Would you agree?

What I don’t agree with is that a manager should be given no credit at all just because he has a larger budget to work with. Thousands of managers up and down the country have been given a good budget and spunked it away - whereas we have a manager who has obviously made the most of ours. For example, there’s no way Naylor, Dobra, Jacobs, Jones & Grigg (arguably our five best players bar Mandy) would be here if Cook wasn’t - let’s not forget that.

I also don’t think we can even try to compare Wrexham to us. Wrexham’s budget this year is over £4m - insanity! I dread to think what it was last year - ours is absolutely nowhere near what theirs was.
A better comparison would be Notts County. If they’d lost the play off final, do you think Luke Williams should have been sacked?
He had them playing the best and most entertaining football they’ve played in years (just like Cook is doing), and he had a top 2 budget (just like Cook has now), so that’s a far better comparison to make.

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Posted 20 October 2023 - 08:03 AM

View PostFact Checker, on 20 October 2023 - 03:46 AM, said:

I don’t disagree at all that PC has to get promotion this year, but he’s currently on track to achieve just that, whilst playing a brand of football that would grace league one. If that continues then he’s done a very good job. Would you agree?

What I don’t agree with is that a manager should be given no credit at all just because he has a larger budget to work with. Thousands of managers up and down the country have been given a good budget and spunked it away - whereas we have a manager who has obviously made the most of ours. For example, there’s no way Naylor, Dobra, Jacobs, Jones & Grigg (arguably our five best players bar Mandy) would be here if Cook wasn’t - let’s not forget that.

I also don’t think we can even try to compare Wrexham to us. Wrexham’s budget this year is over £4m - insanity! I dread to think what it was last year - ours is absolutely nowhere near what theirs was.
A better comparison would be Notts County. If they’d lost the play off final, do you think Luke Williams should have been sacked?
He had them playing the best and most entertaining football they’ve played in years (just like Cook is doing), and he had a top 2 budget (just like Cook has now), so that’s a far better comparison to make.


I think Town is currently on course to finish in the top 2. Barnet is simply too close for them to be discounted.

Furthermore, I reserve judgement on Notts' 2022/3 playing budget and net spend on players. The accounts should be available in March.We know it is bankrolled by its owner, which just continues lending it money, which will never be repaid.
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Posted 20 October 2023 - 08:26 AM

View PostDerbySpireite59, on 20 October 2023 - 08:03 AM, said:

I think Town is currently on course to finish in the top 2. Barnet is simply too close for them to be discounted.

Furthermore, I reserve judgement on Notts' 2022/3 playing budget and net spend on players. The accounts should be available in March.We know it is bankrolled by its owner, which just continues lending it money, which will never be repaid.

Barnet’s goals in the Cup this week are very impressive. They include a couple of Kanesque finishes from Kabamba and a Gary Roberts type chipped assist from Senior. They look very comfortable on the ball.
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Posted 20 October 2023 - 09:10 AM

View Post60s 70s Spireite, on 20 October 2023 - 08:26 AM, said:

Barnet’s goals in the Cup this week are very impressive. They include a couple of Kanesque finishes from Kabamba and a Gary Roberts type chipped assist from Senior. They look very comfortable on the ball.



They were playing Aveley (with the greatest respect to them). I caught their second half against Dorking and despite coming back from 2 goals down, they weren't incredible.

I expect they'll beat Maidenhead tomorrow but then Solihull on Tuesday will be a proper test, even Oxford City away the following Saturday could be tough.

I obviously look for their results first, but we're 15 games in and leading the way, and the only people who can stop us are ourselves, we kept pace with those 2 last year until 2 periods of god awful form, we just need to keep doing what we're doing and watch the lead extend, fingers crossed
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Posted 20 October 2023 - 11:03 AM

View PostDerbySpireite59, on 20 October 2023 - 08:03 AM, said:

I think Town is currently on course to finish in the top 2. Barnet is simply too close for them to be discounted.

Furthermore, I reserve judgement on Notts' 2022/3 playing budget and net spend on players. The accounts should be available in March.We know it is bankrolled by its owner, which just continues lending it money, which will never be repaid.


Agreed - they’re starting 11 & manager look the real deal and could push us all the way if injuries don’t hit.
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