new ground green options
#21
Posted 22 May 2006 - 10:57 AM
#22
Posted 22 May 2006 - 11:18 AM
frearsghost, on May 20 2006, 07:47 PM, said:
I wish the club luck in their dealings with these solar energy companies. I've approached three over the last 9 months for a ball-park figure for kitting my roof out with panels and they've each displayed all the professional attributes of double glazing salesmen. For some reason, they'd prefer to come and camp out in my living room for God knows how long playing a game of cat and mouse.
There may well be grants available, but I suspect these companies are out to make a fast buck. Still, I wouldn't think they'll outmanouevre our Victorian mill-owner in any negotiations.
#23
Posted 23 May 2006 - 09:09 AM
The most up-to-date scheme (as far as I can see)
Document on solar panels and businesses
It turns out that you can sell your electricity back to the national grid. A roof as big as a football stadium covered in solar panels could have quite a high capacity with high usage only once every two weeks - it could therefore even be an effective fund-raising tool.
#24
Posted 23 May 2006 - 08:19 PM
Paul, on May 23 2006, 10:09 AM, said:
The most up-to-date scheme (as far as I can see)
Document on solar panels and businesses
It turns out that you can sell your electricity back to the national grid. A roof as big as a football stadium covered in solar panels could have quite a high capacity with high usage only once every two weeks - it could therefore even be an effective fund-raising tool.
Any architect worth the name should be incorporating stuff like this into any new scheme - if in fact it isn't already a requirement of the Building Regulations. An even better source of power to sell back would be wind turbines, possibly incorporated in the floodlight designs.
#25
Posted 23 May 2006 - 08:29 PM
h again, on May 23 2006, 10:19 PM, said:
I don't know the technical details but I'd imagine an area the size of a football stadium roof covered with solar panels would generate more than four wind turbines - you can always guarantee it will be light whereas it can't always be guaranteed to be windy (also, the time when it would generate the most electricty to be sold back would obviously be in the summer because less stuff happens at a club - it tends to be less windy in summer I think). What's more, I'm loth to call them NIMBYS, but big enough wind turbines to generate more than solar panels would draw lots of objections from the neighbours. This is all guess work - I expect the powers that be will base their decisions on facts
Though ****** it, let's have solar panels and windmills.
#26
Posted 23 May 2006 - 09:50 PM
h again, on May 23 2006, 09:19 PM, said:
I wonder if exercise bikes could be hooked up to generate electricity?. Line 'em up behind a glass screen and cater for them that want to keep fit whilst watching the match. Too far fetched int it?.
#27
Posted 24 May 2006 - 09:08 AM
Spired, on May 22 2006, 11:48 AM, said:
Ground name The Stadium of Solar panelled Light?
#28
Posted 24 May 2006 - 09:15 AM
carlT, on May 24 2006, 10:08 AM, said:
Ground name The Stadium of Solar panelled Light?
Get back to the drawing board for names mate!
#29
Posted 24 May 2006 - 05:04 PM
Paul, on May 22 2006, 11:25 AM, said:
the powergen stadium? like it paul.
#30
Posted 24 May 2006 - 05:31 PM
death, on May 24 2006, 07:04 PM, said:
Or (I read a bit more today and asked around at work), since solar panels are most effective on South facing roofs, cover the south stand in solar panels (half paid for by the government, half by powergen) and call it the powergen stand. Someone else can pay for the naming rights for the whole thing.
I'm probably getting a bit (well, a lot) ahead of myself but I hope these options are looked at carefully because electricty companies are crawling over themselves to sponsor these kind of things.
#31
Posted 24 May 2006 - 05:39 PM
Paul, on May 24 2006, 06:31 PM, said:
I'm probably getting a bit (well, a lot) ahead of myself but I hope these options are looked at carefully because electricty companies are crawling over themselves to sponsor these kind of things.
fair idea
#32
Posted 24 May 2006 - 05:50 PM
h again, on May 23 2006, 08:19 PM, said:
At least we would have a roar, but from the wind turbines if not the crowd
And therein lies the problem. They are noisy and it would be 7 days a week not just sat.
I don't think it would ever be allowed in a built up area.
On a more personal note I hate the site of them, but thats just my opinion.More to the point they aren't working all the time and and not one power station can be closed down as a result of having them.
#33
Posted 24 May 2006 - 06:58 PM
Paul, on May 24 2006, 06:31 PM, said:
take note the powers that be.
#34
Posted 24 May 2006 - 07:41 PM
Fifties Blue, on May 24 2006, 06:50 PM, said:
And therein lies the problem. They are noisy and it would be 7 days a week not just sat.
I don't think it would ever be allowed in a built up area.
On a more personal note I hate the site of them, but thats just my opinion.More to the point they aren't working all the time and and not one power station can be closed down as a result of having them.
We have one in lboro thats not that noisy and i cant believe the view ruining arguement could be used at all in this scenario. A glassworks has been sat there for ages i kinda think turbines would be more astetically pleasing than that!
This is definately a big earning/publicity opportunity that should be taken advantage of. Preferably both solar and wind get image sponsorship off someone like powergen and sell electricity back to the grid.
#35
Posted 24 May 2006 - 07:52 PM
Fifties Blue, on May 24 2006, 06:50 PM, said:
And therein lies the problem. They are noisy and it would be 7 days a week not just sat.
I don't think it would ever be allowed in a built up area.
On a more personal note I hate the site of them, but thats just my opinion.More to the point they aren't working all the time and and not one power station can be closed down as a result of having them.
You don't need the monstrous eyesores that disfigure the countryside - the technology is improving all the time and quite small turbines will do a job. There's a school of thought that wants to put small ones on houses in the near future, which is probably the best place for them - the big horrors around the country are just an expensive joke.
#37
Posted 25 May 2006 - 06:02 AM
h again, on May 24 2006, 08:52 PM, said:
indeed h
each roof having panels, and the south facing outer wall being clad in the panels too. throw in small turbines, it could make a mint.
#38
Posted 25 May 2006 - 03:25 PM
Paul, on May 24 2006, 06:31 PM, said:
I'm probably getting a bit (well, a lot) ahead of myself but I hope these options are looked at carefully because electricty companies are crawling over themselves to sponsor these kind of things.
I don't know how flimsy these units are, but presumably they would need protecting from being struck by a ball.
#39
Posted 25 May 2006 - 03:30 PM
dim view, on May 23 2006, 10:50 PM, said:
We could always recruit Peter Beagrie. His dug-out cycling routine would keep the floolights going single-handed.......
#40
Posted 25 May 2006 - 09:27 PM
Balearic Mac, on May 25 2006, 06:30 PM, said:
Peter Beagrie`s exhuded self esteem would be enough to power the new stadiums whole electricity needs for the next 17 seasons!!
Man`s an ar53, sooner pay British gas for my home energy bills.
Mr Mercury
This post has been edited by Mr Mercury: 25 May 2006 - 09:27 PM