[Zigsuk]

dtp, on 07 November 2023 - 12:28 PM, said:

Without trying to be too critical, because Ollie had a good game, but he really should have had a couple of goals on Sunday and put clear breathing space between us and them. In his current role he is getting into positions to score which is a good thing but he hit all his shots on Sunday at a nice height for their keeper when in the previous games he'd scored by shooting hard and low.

Similarly, Colclough really should have done better when he blasted into the side netting at the near post instead of going for the far post. He does this with a regularity.

We are a good improving team and becoming more clinical is an area in which I would feel the coaches are working on.

Agree about Colclough. Exciting playere that he is sometimes his final decisions leave a lot to be desired after he has easily beaten a defender. His crosses are often poor and his shots sometimnes equally so. As was suggested elsewhere maybe his final decision making is why he's playing at this level, because he has the skill to play a lot higher.

[dtp]

Duckys Moved, on 07 November 2023 - 12:40 PM, said:

Think you are being a little harsh there, if I recall all his shots where outside the box so no guarantee.

I would suggest that had Quigley missed the one Grigg set him up for, inside the penalty area, we would have had numerous posts started by the currently very quiet Walton and many other contributors queuing up to moan about it,

As far as Ollie is concerned I did say he had a good game, he is finding space and getting into the right positions, but in my opinion he should have had a couple of goals on Sunday.

If we start taking a bigger percentage of the good chances we are creating then sooner or later we are really going to hammer some poor team. I accept we have scored in every game and scored a high number of goals this season but the result on Sunday could, and should, have been greater than 1-0 if you look at the chances each team had.

This post has been edited by dtp: 07 November 2023 - 01:29 PM

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Zigsuk, on 07 November 2023 - 01:00 PM, said:

Agree about Colclough. Exciting playere that he is sometimes his final decisions leave a lot to be desired after he has easily beaten a defender. His crosses are often poor and his shots sometimnes equally so. As was suggested elsewhere maybe his final decision making is why he's playing at this level, because he has the skill to play a lot higher.

Crosses often poor? May explain why he’s playing at this level?
Jeez. He’s one of the best players in the league - 5 goals, 3 assists (2nd behind Mandy for assists per certain sites this season). On the same basis we may need an explanation why Mandy, Grimes, Tyrer, Dobra aren’t playing at a higher level.
We have a team of players who can play much higher- ask Portsmouth.

One of the reasons Colclough plays at this level is his personal history, not his lack of skills that’s for sure.

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60s 70s Spireite, on 07 November 2023 - 09:45 PM, said:

Crosses often poor? May explain why he’s playing at this level?
Jeez. He’s one of the best players in the league - 5 goals, 3 assists (2nd behind Mandy for assists per certain sites this season). On the same basis we may need an explanation why Mandy, Grimes, Tyrer, Dobra aren’t playing at a higher level.
We have a team of players who can play much higher- ask Portsmouth.

One of the reasons Colclough plays at this level is his personal history, not his lack of skills that’s for sure.

Forget the "one of the reasons he is playing at this level" reasoning.

We have players playing for CFC because we are an attractive club to play for. Players at every level make mistakes or bad decisions and these are analysed to the nth degree because of the media and technology available to us today.

However, coaches are able to analyse games in much greater depth because of such technology and, as a result, strive to improve both the teams and individual players performances. To say "you could have done better if you'd done this" is not necessarily a criticism, as such, but something to concentrate on to acheive improvement.

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dtp, on 07 November 2023 - 10:11 PM, said:

Forget the "one of the reasons he is playing at this level" reasoning.

We have players playing for CFC because we are an attractive club to play for. Players at every level make mistakes or bad decisions and these are analysed to the nth degree because of the media and technology available to us today.

However, coaches are able to analyse games in much greater depth because of such technology and, as a result, strive to improve both the teams and individual players performances. To say "you could have done better if you'd done this" is not necessarily a criticism, as such, but something to concentrate on to acheive improvement.

That’s better reasoning. We can all improve, and I’m sure the players will be the first to accept that.

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Zigsuk, on 07 November 2023 - 01:00 PM, said:

Agree about Colclough. Exciting playere that he is sometimes his final decisions leave a lot to be desired after he has easily beaten a defender. His crosses are often poor and his shots sometimnes equally so. As was suggested elsewhere maybe his final decision making is why he's playing at this level, because he has the skill to play a lot higher.

Agree he could make more of the opportunities he creates for himself with his pace and skill. Having said that, he often beats the defender by bursting to his left, which takes him beyond the left-hand post, which means a shot across the goal towards the far post would have more chance of being blocked by a defender. Just a bit more accuracy would probably result in more goals for him.

[Zigsuk]

sophocles, on 07 November 2023 - 11:40 PM, said:

Agree he could make more of the opportunities he creates for himself with his pace and skill. Having said that, he often beats the defender by bursting to his left, which takes him beyond the left-hand post, which means a shot across the goal towards the far post would have more chance of being blocked by a defender. Just a bit more accuracy would probably result in more goals for him.

Spot on.

[boot]

Zigsuk, on 08 November 2023 - 08:44 AM, said:

Spot on.

Accuracy takes us back to Banks - 3 glorious chances and he didn't put his foot through any of them - power pays over precision sometimes.

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boot, on 08 November 2023 - 09:01 AM, said:

Accuracy takes us back to Banks - 3 glorious chances and he didn't put his foot through any of them - power pays over precision sometimes.

Jack would have side footed the first into the far bottom corner.

Any road up, it's probably a bit early for serious comparison, but I think Bailey Hobson's career and playing style is shaping up very similar to Ollie's. Rejected as a youth and progressing the hard way, I'm not sure how good a passer Bailey will turn out to be, but he's definitely a combative aggressive number 10 who is a talented goal scorer.

I think Cooky will get offers for him when his loan finishes, and it will be interesting to see how this develops.

[boot]

dim view, on 08 November 2023 - 11:58 AM, said:

Jack would have side footed the first into the far bottom corner.

Any road up, it's probably a bit early for serious comparison, but I think Bailey Hobson's career and playing style is shaping up very similar to Ollie's. Rejected as a youth and progressing the hard way, I'm not sure how good a passer Bailey will turn out to be, but he's definitely a combative aggressive number 10 who is a talented goal scorer.

I think Cooky will get offers for him when his loan finishes, and it will be interesting to see how this develops.

Cheers mate - Hobson does look a good-un.

[60s 70s Spireite]

dim view, on 08 November 2023 - 11:58 AM, said:

Jack would have side footed the first into the far bottom corner.

Any road up, it's probably a bit early for serious comparison, but I think Bailey Hobson's career and playing style is shaping up very similar to Ollie's. Rejected as a youth and progressing the hard way, I'm not sure how good a passer Bailey will turn out to be, but he's definitely a combative aggressive number 10 who is a talented goal scorer.

I think Cooky will get offers for him when his loan finishes, and it will be interesting to see how this develops.

In terms of numbers at the club, perhaps will depend on whether Dobra is willing to sign a new contract.

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DIFH, on 06 November 2023 - 01:02 PM, said:

He’s the confidence to take on a shot and invariably they aren’t far off the target. We have to look at the way Pompey set up - one style of play which we matched and to be honest they never tried anything else.

No matter how much a manager tells teams from higher leagues that teams from lower leagues are not to be underestimated it’s hard for players to adjust when they come up against a team such as us with a definite quality all round and the ‘National League’ style.

Make no mistake they were ‘bossed’ yesterday and that bolds well for when we return to the EFL. It’s taken some time for mr to feel comfortable that we are on the right lines, I’ve seen a marked improvement in fitness throughout the squad, injuries have been kind to us but we now have another attacking string up front with OB playing less of a sweeper roll and more on the front foot.

I’m now a GRIGG convert big time, for a guy of his stature who’s now fully fit he plays the the one man striker roll brilliantly. The team all round create space and opportunity for each other and Cook ball is working big time.

It’s getting harder and harder to give a MOTM award when the team is so good all round.

I will however give Tyrer a mention for that save early in the first half, if that had gone in at that time who knows how things would have ended. Time for a Tyrer interview all you media guys.

Anyway everyone I think we can say with certainty WE ARE ON OUR WAY.

My take on this is that Cook's basic philosophy is starting to come to fruition. I get the feeling recently that our passing game is improving to the extent that we can now pass it through a defence, which is a skill that sides much higher up struggle with. We've been good ever since Cookie came back, but the management team have said all along that there was more to come - I think that now it's arriving. There's still a bit more to come, but we're a good way along a very difficult path. Cookball lives!

[Zigsuk]

boot, on 08 November 2023 - 09:01 AM, said:

Accuracy takes us back to Banks - 3 glorious chances and he didn't put his foot through any of them - power pays over precision sometimes.

Yes, thought he might have put at least one of them away. All pretty tame efforts right at the goalkeeper. However hope he keeps shooting when he has the chance so long as he doesn’t fail to pass to someone in a better position which is always a danger.

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Zigsuk, on 08 November 2023 - 12:19 PM, said:

Yes, thought he might have put at least one of them away. All pretty tame efforts right at the goalkeeper. However hope he keeps shooting when he has the chance so long as he doesn’t fail to pass to someone in a better position which is always a danger.

Do you want him to be a goalscorer or what?

Goalscorers should normally be greedy if in a position to score.

I take your point, though to some extent, but there is never a guarantee that the player in the better position will actually score either.