[Wooden Spoon]

IMF predicts some dire economic outlook as a result of the orange menace tariffs- most tellingly on the US economy, followed by France Italy and Germany. UK seems to be getting off relatively lightly

[Wooden Spoon]

So the orange menace today at his press conference that China are paying billions due to his tariffs -!it’s not China it’s the US public paying a tax on imports - is he and are the US public that dumb they don’t see the difference?


He now says he’s not happy with Russia but applies no pressure that’s visible - what concessions have you got from Russia “not taking the whole country”


Wow. That’s incredible from Krasnov.

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[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Wooden Spoon, on 25 April 2025 - 01:04 AM, said:

So the orange menace today at his press conference that China are paying billions due to his tariffs -!it’s not China it’s the US public paying a tax on imports - is he and are the US public that dumb they don’t see the difference?


He now says he’s not happy with Russia but applies no pressure that’s visible - what concessions have you got from Russia “not taking the whole country”


Wow. That’s incredible from Krasnov.

But it's all okay 'cos the marmalade Mussolini's told "Vladimir" - first name terms, obviously - to "STOP!".

In big letters.

Followed by an exclamation.

So he must really, really mean it.

Yet not enough to impose a single sanction, of course.

At least the pretence is now over, though.

No more maybe or perhaps or possibly, no more excuses or diversions and certainly no more 'wait and see'.

Trump's betrayal of the heroic Ukrainians is complete.

Instead of ending the war in his bombastically boasted day he's spent a hundred or more abandoning them. Selling them down the river. Hanging them out to dry.

Publicly humiliating their emblematic leader.

And for what - so he can triumphantly declare himself a peacemaker? Brag what a dealmaker he thinks he is? Hear his mindless sycophants peddle more vacuous adoration as the real world looks on agape?

Or to hand the Kremlin war criminal the surrender he demands.

I listened to a heartbreaking report from a Kiev based aid worker this morning. He narrated his relief at watching US donated Patriot systems bringing down Russian missiles, then his desolation at the knowledge they wouldn't be replaced. That sooner or later those missiles would get through. To massacre even more innocents.

Many, many more.

The blood of those innocents will be as red on Trump's hands as Putin's...

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[Wooden Spoon]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 25 April 2025 - 01:17 PM, said:

But it's all okay 'cos the marmalade Mussolini's told "Vladimir" - first name terms, obviously - to "STOP!".

In big letters.

Followed by an exclamation.

So he must really, really mean it.

Yet not enough to impose a single sanction, of course.

At least the pretence is now over, though.

No more maybe or perhaps or possibly, no more excuses or diversions and certainly no more 'wait and see'.

Trump's betrayal of the heroic Ukrainians is complete.

Instead of ending the war in his bombastically boasted day he's spent a hundred or more abandoning them. Selling them down the river. Hanging them out to dry.

Publicly humiliating their emblematic leader.

And for what - so he can triumphantly declare himself a peacemaker? Brag what a dealmaker he thinks he is? Hear his mindless sycophants peddle more vacuous adoration as the real world looks on agape?

Or to hand the Kremlin war criminal the surrender he demands.

I listened to a heartbreaking report from a Kiev based aid worker this morning. He narrated his relief at watching US donated Patriot systems bringing down Russian missiles, then his desolation at the knowledge they wouldn't be replaced. That sooner or later those missiles would get through. To massacre even more innocents.

Many, many more.

The blood of those innocents will be as red on Trump's hands as Putin's...

Imagine a Kremlin asset being president of the United States


Wrecking the world economy while insider trading and making millions

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

This bloke usually sums it up:

This post has been edited by The Earl of Chesterfield: 25 April 2025 - 06:34 PM

[Wooden Spoon]

The orange menace now says he thinks Putin “Might be tagging me along” and “isn’t serious about peace”


He’s a sharp cookie is Donald

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

https://www.independ...w-b2741936.html

So it's not enough that the Whitehouse ignore a nine to zero court order - which of course Trump claims a win.

It's not enough they photo shop an image in some desperate attempt to smear an illegally deported innocent.

We've in fact reached the stage where the marmalade Mussolini demands - demands - an interviewer admit his lie is actually fact. Before inevitably insulting him for not doing so.

There is a bright side, though - Trump's threats against Canada overturned a twenty-plus point poll lead seeing it's conservative party beaten by the strongly anti Trump Liberals at the election.

It's leader losing his seat Truss style.

Maybe there's a lesson there for Starmer...

[Wooden Spoon]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 30 April 2025 - 12:38 PM, said:

https://www.independ...w-b2741936.html

So it's not enough that the Whitehouse ignore a nine to zero court order - which of course Trump claims a win.

It's not enough they photo shop an image in some desperate attempt to smear an illegally deported innocent.

We've in fact reached the stage where the marmalade Mussolini demands - demands - an interviewer admit his lie is actually fact. Before inevitably insulting him for not doing so.

There is a bright side, though - Trump's threats against Canada overturned a twenty-plus point poll lead seeing it's conservative party beaten by the strongly anti Trump Liberals at the election.

It's leader losing his seat Truss style.

Maybe there's a lesson there for Starmer...

Starmer is a lost cause, as is the current Labour Party.


They will need to suffer a catastrophic defeat at the ballot box, and for the party MEMBERS to wake up and smell the coffee before anybody is gonna make any real meaningful change.

Sadly I don’t see anything in the membership to remotely suggest that’s gonna be the case.

[Wooden Spoon]

Far too many members are interested in the extreme views and issues that no one cares about, and so few members care so passionately about stuff that actually impacts peoples lives.

The labour party are in danger of being wiped out because they have ignored the concerns of the working class

[Johnnyspireite7]

And the first 'victim' of the Orange Buffoon's administration falls on his sword due to crass incompetence, Mike Waltz, the National Security advisor resigns/sacked(?) due to including a journalist into a Signal Chat discussing military plans. The first of many one hopes!

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

 Wooden Spoon, on 30 April 2025 - 08:56 PM, said:

Far too many members are interested in the extreme views and issues that no one cares about, and so few members care so passionately about stuff that actually impacts peoples lives.

The labour party are in danger of being wiped out because they have ignored the concerns of the working class

This is better suited to the Labour topic, but as you've mentioned Labour members here I'll reply here.

The people I encounter at local meetings aren't in any way extreme. In fact I can honestly say I've never heard women with penises discussed. Or criminals' colour. Or Megs and Hazza.

Or any of the other issues the Right accuse us of being, yet they themselves are so obsessed by.

No. These are just ordinary working class people doing their damnedest to help other ordinary working class people in their ordinary working class community.

Running 'Gussies kitchen' our neighbourhood food bank, for example. Or keeping amenities open in the face of devastating cuts. Or addressing anti-social behaviour.

Committed by the area's long term scrotes and not immigrants staying in a nearby hostel, by the way.

I do detect a growing disconnect with the Parliamentary party, though. These members/we didn't join Labour to trash manifesto pledges. We didn't join Labour to impose austerity upon the vulnerable. We didn't join Labour to become another version of the twenty ten coalition.

Which is a exactly what this government's become.

Starmer is no socialist. Anyone accusing him or his cabinet of being reds-under-beds is either ignorant, or believes others are ignorant enough to parrot such a mindless sneer. He has no ideology, that's very clear. Other than leading a mainstream party with middle of the road policies bearing little relationship to traditional Labour values.

Perhaps he'll keep enough of the politically unaligned whose support's necessary for power happy to succeed, I dunno.

However as things stand he's merely alienating many that gave him that power in the first place...

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[Wooden Spoon]

Anyone see the presser with Trump and Carney?


He just kept on about the 51st state despite Carney saying many times “Canada is not for sale”

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

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[Wooden Spoon]

 The Earl of Chesterfield, on 01 May 2025 - 06:40 PM, said:

This is better suited to the Labour topic, but as you've mentioned Labour members here I'll reply here.

The people I encounter at local meetings aren't in any way extreme. In fact I can honestly say I've never heard women with penises discussed. Or criminals' colour. Or Megs and Hazza.

Or any of the other issues the Right accuse us of being, yet they themselves are so obsessed by.

No. These are just ordinary working class people doing their damnedest to help other ordinary working class people in their ordinary working class community.

Running 'Gussies kitchen' our neighbourhood food bank, for example. Or keeping amenities open in the face of devastating cuts. Or addressing anti-social behaviour.

Committed by the area's long term scrotes and not immigrants staying in a nearby hostel, by the way.

I do detect a growing disconnect with the Parliamentary party, though. These members/we didn't join Labour to trash manifesto pledges. We didn't join Labour to impose austerity upon the vulnerable. We didn't join Labour to become another version of the twenty ten coalition.

Which is a exactly what this government's become.

Starmer is no socialist. Anyone accusing him or his cabinet of being reds-under-beds is either ignorant, or believes others are ignorant enough to parrot such a mindless sneer. He has no ideology, that's very clear. Other than leading a mainstream party with middle of the road policies bearing little relationship to traditional Labour values.

Perhaps he'll keep enough of the politically unaligned whose support's necessary for power happy to succeed, I dunno.

However as things stand he's merely alienating many that gave him that power in the first place...

Para 1- 5 is what labour is about, or should be about. A people’s movement looking after the working class. Give those guys a pat on the back from me.

Para 6 that is spot on and that is why reform are really on the March - he’s betrayed the working class because he isn’t a socialist. And socialist a broad church of views from Blair’s version of social fairness to communism

If you asked me what Starmer stands for, couldn’t say apart from identity pilot defined by the law. He doesn’t have an ideology as far as I can see. He doesn’t seem to represent any particular view, or have a stance on a policy. He’s an empty wardrobe

Currently he is pleasing no one as far as I can see, be they left, right, centre or non aligned.


And that, if unchecked is going to destroy the Labour Party just as Johnson truss and Sunak destroyed the Tory party……and we all know who that is leaving the door open to - the hardline free market extremism


Imagine a country run by the east India company

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[Mr Mercury]

“Marmalade Mussolini”, “Orange Buffon”..
I’d imagine Starmer views Trump more like a “Golden Goose” after today’s announcement. Brilliant reading some of this thread back. Almost as good as reading the first page of the Reform thread then seeing what happened last Thursday.

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[Middle East]

Mr Mercury, on 08 May 2025 - 04:09 PM, said:

“Marmalade Mussolini”, “Orange Buffon”..
I’d imagine Starmer views Trump more like a “Golden Goose” after today’s announcement. Brilliant reading some of this thread back. Almost as good as reading the first page of the Reform thread then seeing what happened last Thursday.

Labour/Starmer negotiating any deal with this orange lunatic is a win by any measure....but don't let that get in the way of your vendetta...

[Mr Mercury]

Middle East, on 08 May 2025 - 09:14 PM, said:

Labour/Starmer negotiating any deal with this orange lunatic is a win by any measure....but don't let that get in the way of your vendetta...

Starmer negotiating? Really?

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[Middle East]

Mr Mercury, on 08 May 2025 - 09:16 PM, said:

Starmer negotiating? Really?

Labour..which he is the PM of and therefore signs off any international deals!!!!!!

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[Mr Mercury]

Middle East, on 08 May 2025 - 09:20 PM, said:

Labour..which he is the PM of and therefore signs off any international deals!!!!!!

Well done to him.

[isleaiw1]

Middle East, on 08 May 2025 - 09:14 PM, said:

Labour/Starmer negotiating any deal with this orange lunatic is a win by any measure....but don't let that get in the way of your vendetta...

Win? its better than a month ago and worse than two months ago... that isnt a win to me, that's being taken to the cleaners and played...