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itsc, on 04 March 2017 - 08:11 PM, said:

You will know that their are a lot of cost cutting excercises going ahead at the moment and I assume this will include the academy, losing over £100,000 a year is not sustainable ? I am sure you agree with that.

It's lost that amount for 1 year only according to Turner, who may have inadvertently placed some numbers in the wrong cell of his accounting spreadsheet. It's easily done.

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itsc, on 04 March 2017 - 08:21 PM, said:

I wish I did, but you or the administrators would be the first to know

Steve,

When we had a chat many months ago in your meeting room about some of the DC issues, do I recall you mentioning that you had carried out some work on the computer with the accounts on it? If that's the case, any chance of confirming the month and year, please?

Edit - Also, would you have taken a back up and if you did, would you be prepared to pass the file to Phil Booth at Booth & Co?

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itsc, on 04 March 2017 - 09:08 PM, said:

Mike

only thing I remember was a woman there doing SAGE on it in the portakabin

It wasn't connected to main system

I would have thought she would have the backups

Have you asked her?

We never saw them after we set them up

I could have sworn you told me that Sutcliffe had called you in because the accounts software / computer was in a mess.

We know Lindricks' produced the accounts for Y/E 30/06/15, so they will have a file post that date and the accountant left in January 2016. As you know, we have tried to make contact with the former accountant through her old colleagues but she is having none of it, a luxury I suspect she might not have for much longer now a liquidator has been appointed.

Losing the accounts computer is a bit of a luxury given the circumstances, would you agree?

Edit - Given the so called disappearance of the accounts computer, has Sutcliffe ever called you in to set him up with a new computer and accounting software?

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itsc, on 04 March 2017 - 08:11 PM, said:

Well first I don't have the time or qualifications I guess to run the academy, what I do have is the expertise of running a successful junior football club for 15 years.

Thanks for that, Steve.

One thing, though.

Unless I'm mistaken your first experience with youth football was running a team with me because, and let's me honest, no one else wanted the gig when Andy 'Bruno' Morris suggested we form an under eight side when our lads attended his Saturday morning club.

Now my son, like your's, is nineteen, so that would make our first foray into coaching eleven years ago.

And whilst you much preferred the administration side of things to any actual 'mud and sweat' involvement back then - to the point of always finding someone else to do it for you - you didn't secure yourself any kind of official position until a season or so later.

Y'know, when you, I, the bloke I then ran a side with and a number of disgruntled parents had various issues with your, shall we say 'selective memory' when it came to offering nine year old boys the opportunity of joining the CFC Academy.

The bottom line being that your 'running a successful junior football club for fifteen years' claim seems somewhat inaccurate.

That said I'm happy to accept your assurance that rumours you've used your sponsorship of CFC, or any subsequent relationships, to usurp Mark Smith's role in running a youth set up that's delivered a series of promising players as utterly false.

I mean, you wouldn't want to be proven a liar in the same way Liam Sutcliffe, the bloke to whom you allied your 'SBK' business to has been...would you?

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itsc, on 04 March 2017 - 09:44 PM, said:

Mike

Think your mistaken we never got involved in the accounts software that was nothing to do with us just the laptops and internet access

Yep it's a luxury to have lost it

No the only thing we have been involved in is wifi access at the village

So the accounts computer has allegedly gone walkabouts and he's not called you in to sort a replacement, how odd!

If I was without Sage, you would know about it and if it wasn't sorted quickly my blood pressure would be at boiling point!

I think our mate is bullsh us about the computer going walkabouts!

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Russian World Cup bid...accusations of corruption...computers conveniently wiped...

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itsc, on 04 March 2017 - 10:07 PM, said:

Well we didn't do any work for him as you know as we didn't get paid

But have to agree that it going walkabout was convenient to say the least.

Strange that no backups were done in case of disaster
That lady is your best bet I think

As the liquidator said on Wednesday, the bank statements will help build part of the picture.

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It would be interesting to find that the official academy has actually accrued such a debt because grants had been redirected to subsidise a similar venture.

Just a purely hypothetical theory of course with absolutely no substance.

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spireitenag, on 04 March 2017 - 10:26 PM, said:

It would be interesting to find that the official academy has actually accrued such a debt because grants had been redirected to subsidise a similar venture.

Just a purely hypothetical theory of course with absolutely no substance.

A valid point, Nige.

Take expenditure relating to the rent on the CFC Village, circa £24K pa, which department has that cost been allocated to?

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freelander2, on 04 March 2017 - 10:30 PM, said:

A valid point, Nige.

Take expenditure relating to the rent on the CFC Village, circa £24K pa, which department has that cost been allocated to?

Literally " A nest of vipers".

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

itsc, on 04 March 2017 - 10:02 PM, said:

Not quite Chris, I was involved before that as the club has problems and I went in to sort out the admin and running of the club as well as help with the training school and FITC. it might be 14 years but if you want me to be more accurate let me know

But we have a meeting soon so I will ask some of the old memebers if they do remember the dates for you.

Yes you did coach as my assistant if I remember till you failed to show up one Saturday morning but I'm not one to keep a Grudge.

And I think your referring to the "Centre of Excellence" as it wasn't an academy then? You have a better memory than me I guess, but I think your referring to a couple of players that were taken to the academy ooops Centre of Excellence which I at the time didn't think was right and in the end that turned out to be correct?

The club has been successful and when you look at how many players have gone into other Academy's and Centre of excellences then yes we are happy how they have developed under us.

Me personally, I've had 7 players go to professional clubs and some are still there so not bad to say I still coach and didn't jack it in.

We will wait to see about the Academy but the loss making of it has to stop, surely you must agree with that as you speak to Mark a lot more than me.

Allied our business ? Not too sure on that we provided a service and we a partner but not sure what that was apart from the logo in the programme with Paul

Hold on - you clearly claimed, as everyone can see, 'expertise of running a successful junior football club for 15 years'.

The 'Junior Blues' - yeah?

So has the 'Junior Blues' actually been in existence fifteen years?

Y'see I dunno what being 'involved before that as the club has problems and I went in to sort out the admin and running of the club as well as help with the training school and FITC' actually means, but what I do know is you were just a bloke volunteering to run a kids team alongside me eleven years ago.

No official position, no qualifications, and certainly no connection to CFC other than being an ordinary fan like myself.

Which kinda puts your arrogant assertion I was your 'assistant' into the context it deserves, too.

All of which begs a simple question: if you can't be straight over your time with the 'Junior Blues', why should folk believe your statements relating to Sutcliffe, Carson, and any other relationships you might have on Sheff Road?

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Interesting to see that someone on the fans group on facebook is suggesting that the new kitman is a former employee of the Sheffield Assay Office and has been appointed on a higher salary than the retired Steve McVann,despite having no previous experience in this role.

If this is correct it's surely another example of "a job for the boys".

Ashley Carson please clarify whether this is correct or an ill founded rumour ?

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dim view, on 04 March 2017 - 08:02 PM, said:

I'm hoping Steve might be able to throw some light onto the whereabouts of Sutcliffe's accounting laptop. Sutcliffe has unluckily lost it and somebody told me it was donated by Steve, so with a bit of luck he might have reclaimed it, complete with contents.

In the light of the main sponsor of CFC, firstly B2NET then re-branded as Proact, you would have thought that people could have slept peacefully knowing that all data used on laptops, PC's, tablets, etc would have been backed up some sort of cloud... but then I'm idealistic in so many ways, and just a touch naive in others.

I'm guessing if LS printed a copy of the accounts, they would have been eaten by the dog or have important information covered up by non-toxic crayons...used by a child and not Chris Turner (just in case you were thinking it).

Just how plausible does LS think his "I lost my homework on the way to the auditors" actually is?