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Blue Cards On The Way. Sin Bin Trials.

#1 User is offline   frearsghost 

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Posted 08 February 2024 - 03:59 PM

For goodness sake, please leave our game alone. What with VAR as well, it's being turned into a pantomime

Football set to hand referees a BLUE CARD - the first new colour of card to be widely used in 50 years - as part of revolutionary new rules | Daily Mail Online
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Posted 08 February 2024 - 04:07 PM

View Postfrearsghost, on 08 February 2024 - 03:59 PM, said:

For goodness sake, please leave our game alone. What with VAR as well, it's being turned into a pantomime

Football set to hand referees a BLUE CARD - the first new colour of card to be widely used in 50 years - as part of revolutionary new rules | Daily Mail Online

Is it April the 1st?
Ffs the rules are there they just need administering…dissent just give out a few yellow cards then a red, it’ll soon stop it. It worked with MaCallum.
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Posted 08 February 2024 - 04:16 PM

View Postfrearsghost, on 08 February 2024 - 03:59 PM, said:

For goodness sake, please leave our game alone. What with VAR as well, it's being turned into a pantomime

Football set to hand referees a BLUE CARD - the first new colour of card to be widely used in 50 years - as part of revolutionary new rules | Daily Mail Online

The Daily Mail should do a little more research. This was also trialed, some years ago at the lower end of the pyramid the Central Midlands being one in this area.

One observation, if you get infuriated watching goalkicks take an age now, wait until one of players is serving a 10 minute ban is on the side of the side taking the kick. And then think of all the other (?)tactics(?) that would be employed to 'kill' time
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Posted 08 February 2024 - 04:34 PM

View PostMr Mercury, on 08 February 2024 - 04:07 PM, said:

Is it April the 1st?
Ffs the rules are there they just need administering…dissent just give out a few yellow cards then a red, it'll soon stop it. It worked with MaCallum.


The rules are there to be changed if it might improve the game. For example, have you ever seen a keeper dismissed for continuing to time waste after a yellow, or the threat of a yellow preventing a player making a cynical foul to stop an attack? Maybe 10 minutesoff would be the answer ? I don't know until it's been tried at a decent level for a season.

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Posted 08 February 2024 - 04:44 PM

View Postclarevoyant., on 08 February 2024 - 04:16 PM, said:

The Daily Mail should do a little more research. This was also trialed, some years ago at the lower end of the pyramid the Central Midlands being one in this area.

One observation, if you get infuriated watching goalkicks take an age now, wait until one of players is serving a 10 minute ban is on the side of the side taking the kick. And then think of all the other (?)tactics(?) that would be employed to 'kill' time


Your observation - the keeper gets a blue card and they end up with two off - precisely where the infuriating time wasting would be punished rather than the mandatory yellow which achieves nothing on most occasions.
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Posted 08 February 2024 - 04:55 PM

View Postboot, on 08 February 2024 - 04:44 PM, said:

Your observation - the keeper gets a blue card and they end up with two off - precisely where the infuriating time wasting would be punished rather than the mandatory yellow which achieves nothing on most occasions.

Utopia! It wouldn't happen though. A bit like adding the correct time on at the end of the 1st half is very rare, when for example a team spends 45 minutes clearly taking time out of the game and nothing is done.
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Posted 08 February 2024 - 06:15 PM

The thing that bugs me is that the article doesn’t consider the FA Cup a tip tier competition anymore, just some kind of lab experiment.

Also the decision between what is a yellow and what is a blue , it all seems a bit arbitrary.
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Posted 08 February 2024 - 06:21 PM

View Postclarevoyant., on 08 February 2024 - 04:16 PM, said:

The Daily Mail should do a little more research. This was also trialed, some years ago at the lower end of the pyramid the Central Midlands being one in this area.

One observation, if you get infuriated watching goalkicks take an age now, wait until one of players is serving a 10 minute ban is on the side of the side taking the kick. And then think of all the other (?)tactics(?) that would be employed to 'kill' time


Exactly. Even more time would be wasted as the team slow the game down in order for sin binned player to get back on.
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Posted 08 February 2024 - 10:11 PM

These suggestions are an absolute joke. All of this additional messing about is utterly ridiculous. All it needs is that refs enforce existing rules. One example is the 10 yards from free kicks rule. Watching the Villa v Spurs match there were multiple examples. I remember one in particular when Villa were awarded a free kick about 30 yards out. The ball was placed, the ref walked about 20 yards away, then turned to see a Spurs player standing right over the ball, preventing the free kick from being taken. The Spurs player stayed there until the ref walked right up to him and explained that he had to be 10 yards away (as if he didn’t know). Why oh why didn’t the ref allow 10 seconds after the award of the free kick then give a yellow card immediately to the player blocking the kick? All it needs is for every ref to do this and then bring out a red card if the player fails to comply. It’s utterly ridiculous that refs have to faff about telling players about a rule they’re perfectly well aware of.
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Posted 09 February 2024 - 07:10 AM

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These suggestions are an absolute joke. All of this additional messing about is utterly ridiculous. All it needs is that refs enforce existing rules. One example is the 10 yards from free kicks rule. Watching the Villa v Spurs match there were multiple examples. I remember one in particular when Villa were awarded a free kick about 30 yards out. The ball was placed, the ref walked about 20 yards away, then turned to see a Spurs player standing right over the ball, preventing the free kick from being taken. The Spurs player stayed there until the ref walked right up to him and explained that he had to be 10 yards away (as if he didn't know). Why oh why didn't the ref allow 10 seconds after the award of the free kick then give a yellow card immediately to the player blocking the kick? All it needs is for every ref to do this and then bring out a red card if the player fails to comply. It's utterly ridiculous that refs have to faff about telling players about a rule they're perfectly well aware of.

Move the kick forwards 10 yards or change to a penalty if 10 yards takes it into the box, in fact just give a penalty for dissent, that would cure it
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Posted 09 February 2024 - 08:18 AM

View PostBrookie, on 09 February 2024 - 07:10 AM, said:

Move the kick forwards 10 yards or change to a penalty if 10 yards takes it into the box, in fact just give a penalty for dissent, that would cure it

They used to do the moving 10yds for dissent etc years ago then dropped it.
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Posted 09 February 2024 - 08:47 AM

Basically it's some pen pusher coming up with an idea to make sure they sound relevant and their job at FA HQ is safe.
Utter garbage
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Posted 09 February 2024 - 09:05 AM

This blue card thing has been massively over stated in the press and on social media. FIFA have said ""Any such trials, if implemented, should be limited to testing in a responsible manner at lower levels, a position that FIFA intends to reiterate when this agenda item is discussed at the IFAB AGM on 2 March." so there isnt a chance it will be used in the FA Cup any time.
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Posted 09 February 2024 - 09:10 AM

Massive overreaction IMO.

Its a trial. There will be data obtained, it will be assessed and an informed decision will be taken as to whether it should be expanded or not based on the outcomes it achieves.

My own personal wish for a trial would be a zero tolerance policy for time wasting or dissent. Any infringement being an automatic yellow.
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Posted 10 February 2024 - 01:05 PM

The laws of the game are all there, and it's down to the officials to make sure both teams abide by them throughout the game. It's weak officials that create problems not the lack of cards in the ref's back pocket. If they gripped the game from the first minute then players would know where they stand, and Cookie may get booked less.
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