[Bonnyman]

I dont feel up to yet its been his season,not been as effective in the final third but what i cannot understand is why he favours left side,with his acceleration and ability to run with the ball he would imo be far more effective playing on the right hand side and to get a regular run its his best option,the lad has ability in spades but he is playing the same game every match cutting back inside,id much prefer him to blast round the outside on his right and when he came on as sub a few games back he rinsed the defender.

[DOUGLAS JARDINE]

Moved onto Dobra now lad after Griggs performance Tuesday ?

[Search & Destroy]

It does seem that Jacobs and Colclough are in the 1st 11 and with Banks pushed forward into the 10 there’s one less place

Even LM is being square pegged into the team atm

I knock or a suspension and it can quickly change, he’s just got to perform when given the opportunity

[s42blue]

Search & Destroy, on 26 October 2023 - 07:30 AM, said:

It does seem that Jacobs and Colclough are in the 1st 11 and with Banks pushed forward into the 10 there’s one less place

Even LM is being square pegged into the team atm

I knock or a suspension and it can quickly change, he’s just got to perform when given the opportunity

Is that Colclough who came on as sub on Tuesday?

This post has been edited by s42blue: 26 October 2023 - 07:40 AM

[Cactoise]

s42blue, on 26 October 2023 - 07:36 AM, said:

Is that Colclough who came on as sun on Tuesday?

I thought he was a ray of sunshine when he came on.

[s42blue]

Cactoise, on 26 October 2023 - 07:39 AM, said:

I thought he was a ray of sunshine when he came on.

Auto spell 😡

[Search & Destroy]

s42blue, on 26 October 2023 - 07:36 AM, said:

Is that Colclough who came on as sub on Tuesday?

Yes, I said that Colclough and Jacobs are in the first preferred 11


That doesn’t mean other players never get a chance

This post has been edited by Search & Destroy: 26 October 2023 - 07:47 AM

[s42blue]

Search & Destroy, on 26 October 2023 - 07:45 AM, said:

Yes, I said that Colclough and Jacobs are in the first preferred 11


That doesn’t mean other players never get a chance

Well, no you didn’t and he obviously wasn’t. But never mind. Enjoy your day.

[danblue]

Its due to the depth of talent in the squad.
Last season Dobs was the man, but after the signings we've made, his game time won't be as much.
Just think how Oldaker feels atm! Can't get a sniff!

[Bonnyman]

DOUGLAS JARDINE, on 26 October 2023 - 07:28 AM, said:

Moved onto Dobra now lad after Griggs performance Tuesday ?

no,think he is a great player just struggling to find himself,as for Grigg,im pleased for him,learning to hold the ball up better (Webb stated its not his game) and contributed hugely in the win,its obvious he has had to adjust his game and notjust run the last line and i do think he is now 100% with shots outside the box as it was i think the first he has had for us...so whats your opinion?

This post has been edited by Bonnyman: 26 October 2023 - 08:04 AM

[dtp]

Bonnyman, on 26 October 2023 - 06:45 AM, said:

I dont feel up to yet its been his season,not been as effective in the final third but what i cannot understand is why he favours left side,with his acceleration and ability to run with the ball he would imo be far more effective playing on the right hand side and to get a regular run its his best option,the lad has ability in spades but he is playing the same game every match cutting back inside,id much prefer him to blast round the outside on his right and when he came on as sub a few games back he rinsed the defender.

However, his burst from the left beating several men across their penalty area resulting in his assist for the all important first goal from Banks on Tuesday night was a slight indication of what he can do from the left. Similarly, I can't remember many complaints about his goal at Wembley or the fact that he was our last season's top goalscorer whilst playing on the left.

Currently, we have a fit and strong squad with so much competition for places that the likes of Mandeville is being played at RB whilst such as King, Palmer, Oldaker, couldn't make the squad. Meanwhile, we could have Hobson and Clements returning from loan with only Quigley and Tyrer carrying injuries neither of which seem to be long-term.

We retain one non-squad numbered long-term injured player in Asante who might have been useful during the Quigley injury period. It's a long time since we were so injury free allowing Cook to rotate and change the squad at will. This seems to be working from a results point of view but, I suppose, it can effect the form of some players as they find themselves in and out of the team. So, getting back to your point, whether or not Dobra prefers to play on the left is one thing but, I'm sure, he'd play in any position Cook chooses to play him in if it means getting a game on top of which he will take on board the instructions given to him by his manager which might, or might not, include blasting round the outside.

[DOUGLAS JARDINE]

Bonnyman, on 26 October 2023 - 08:02 AM, said:

no,think he is a great player just struggling to find himself,as for Grigg,im pleased for him,learning to hold the ball up better (Webb stated its not his game) and contributed hugely in the win,its obvious he has had to adjust his game and notjust run the last line and i do think he is now 100% with shots outside the box as it was i think the first he has had for us...so whats your opinion?

I do agree that Dobra has not been quite on it this season but thankfully we have so much quality around the pitch now it’s not been costly

We missed him desperately last season when he was injured

Top top player

[Sammy Spireite]

DOUGLAS JARDINE, on 26 October 2023 - 08:22 AM, said:

I do agree that Dobra has not been quite on it this season but thankfully we have so much quality around the pitch now it’s not been costly

We missed him desperately last season when he was injured

Top top player

He's a marked man, soon as he got the ball Tuesday night, he had at least two men on him.

That said, there is no one better in the squad than getting himself a bit of space when he receives the ball when players are breathing down his neck.

He'll flourish against teams that don't come here and 'park the bus' giving him space to run beyond players, he'll benefit when we get promoted (assuming he signs a new deal!)

[sophocles]

It's true that we haven't really seen much of Dobra's amazing skills so far this season, but thankfully, we've got such a wealth of talent that it hasn't negatively affected us this season. I agree with Sammy that opponents who sit deep cut down his options. I'm wondering if PC will consider starting him v Portsmouth as they won't feel the need to set up over-defensively against a National League side ?

[Valley Blues]

I think one thing that is more apparent this season in relation to Dobras game, as a result of Jacobs coming in, is his inability to release the ball at times.

Jacobs movement of the ball with first touch passes and when he does carry it, knowing when to release it maybe shows his level above.

I love to watch Dobra play and hope he’s with us for many seasons on the up but he does have a tendency to hold the ball too long.

[Osborne again]

I feel that Dobra has had to learn that he isn't the entire team. Last season he was the go to man when we needed to get beyond an eleven man defence, but now we have so many players who can do it. On Tuesday,he didn't seem as greedy as he usually is, and he played others in. For once, running across the box provided a goal and not a groan.
I hope we sign him up on a two year deal very shortly, because he's some player.

[Sammy Spireite]

Valley Blues, on 26 October 2023 - 11:14 AM, said:

I think one thing that is more apparent this season in relation to Dobras game, as a result of Jacobs coming in, is his inability to release the ball at times.

Jacobs movement of the ball with first touch passes and when he does carry it, knowing when to release it maybe shows his level above.

I don't think its so much about levels, moreover that Jacobs is 31 with about 400 appearances under his belt, Dobs is 21 (i think) with about 50 tops.

[Sammy Spireite]

Osborne again, on 26 October 2023 - 11:17 AM, said:

I feel that Dobra has had to learn that he isn't the entire team. Last season he was the go to man when we needed to get beyond an eleven man defence, but now we have so many players who can do it. On Tuesday,he didn't seem as greedy as he usually is, and he played others in. For once, running across the box provided a goal and not a groan.
I hope we sign him up on a two year deal very shortly, because he's some player.

Rumoured suggests he's refused to even discuss extending his current deal

[Osborne again]

Sammy Spireite, on 26 October 2023 - 12:02 PM, said:

Rumoured suggests he's refused to even discuss extending his current deal

Well, if true, we're not going to be making much out of any transfer fee.

[dim view]

Bonnyman, on 26 October 2023 - 08:02 AM, said:

no,think he is a great player just struggling to find himself.....

what you are implying, as with Grigg, is that Cook doesn't know what he's doing. Don't you think that Cook would move him if he thought he could contribute more in another position?