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Posted 05 September 2023 - 09:40 PM

Bankrupt

Oh dear, a sign of things to come
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Posted 05 September 2023 - 10:03 PM

View PostSearch & Destroy, on 05 September 2023 - 09:40 PM, said:

Bankrupt

Oh dear, a sign of things to come

Ours will be next. Starting to lay people off.
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Posted 05 September 2023 - 10:30 PM

26 top tier councils are approaching the same situation. In particular Woking/Thurrock (Tory) and Croydon/Slough (Labour).

Everyone has different circumstances but it essentially comes down to central government funding

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Posted 05 September 2023 - 10:35 PM

View PostQuaker, on 05 September 2023 - 10:03 PM, said:

Ours will be next. Starting to lay people off.

Councils are laying people off left right and centre but are still expected to provide the same services It’s been happening since the 80s but has now accelerated in the last decade.

The country is falling apart

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Posted 05 September 2023 - 10:50 PM

10s of 1000s of illegals to look after doesn’t come cheap
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Posted 05 September 2023 - 10:53 PM

View PostSearch & Destroy, on 05 September 2023 - 10:50 PM, said:

10s of 1000s of illegals to look after doesn’t come cheap

When they are allowed to take up employment they’ll be the countries wealth builders of the future. Great stuff
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Posted 06 September 2023 - 06:17 AM

View Postazul, on 05 September 2023 - 10:53 PM, said:

When they are allowed to take up employment they’ll be the countries wealth builders of the future. Great stuff



Absolutely, local councils can hardly contain their glee at having to find 1000 extra beds per day👏
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Posted 06 September 2023 - 07:02 AM

Did you make a thread when Northamptonshire CC went bust? Just curious.
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Posted 06 September 2023 - 07:15 AM

View Postazul, on 05 September 2023 - 10:53 PM, said:

When they are allowed to take up employment they’ll be the countries wealth builders of the future. Great stuff


Hilarious....
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Posted 06 September 2023 - 07:21 AM

View PostGoku, on 06 September 2023 - 07:02 AM, said:

Did you make a thread when Northamptonshire CC went bust? Just curious.

Or Staveley.

I'm more concerned about our local council, they've been wasting money left right and centre and are now pleading poverty. The running of a local council has got nothing to do central government. Ours is run poorly.
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Posted 06 September 2023 - 07:51 AM

View Postazul, on 05 September 2023 - 10:30 PM, said:

26 top tier councils are approaching the same situation. In particular Woking/Thurrock (Tory) and Croydon/Slough (Labour).

Everyone has different circumstances but it essentially comes down to central government funding

Yeah because our council get no funding at all from Central Government.

CBC Funding

By the way, the Cafe Bar referred to and which is run by the council loses £55k+ a year.
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Posted 06 September 2023 - 08:11 AM

View PostQuaker, on 06 September 2023 - 07:51 AM, said:

Yeah because our council get no funding at all from Central Government.

CBC Funding

By the way, the Cafe Bar referred to and which is run by the council loses £55k+ a year.


All you’ve done is illustrated what a sham this levelling up fund is. Typical sticking plaster approach to a serious problem

A few million to tart up a few venues here and there is going to rejuvenate the local economy - my ass

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To illustrate that last remark….

Michael Gove’s department is handing back £1.9bn to the Treasury originally meant to tackle England’s housing crisis after struggling to find projects to spend it on.

The Department for Levelling Up, Housing and Communities (DLUHC) has surrendered hundreds of millions of pounds budgeted for 2022-23, including £255m meant to fund new affordable housing and £245m meant to improve building safety.

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Posted 06 September 2023 - 08:46 AM

View Postazul, on 06 September 2023 - 08:11 AM, said:

All you’ve done is illustrated what a sham this levelling up fund is. Typical sticking plaster approach to a serious problem

A few million to tart up a few venues here and there is going to rejuvenate the local economy - my ass

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To illustrate that last remark….

Michael Gove’s department is handing back £1.9bn to the Treasury originally meant to tackle England’s housing crisis after struggling to find projects to spend it on.

The Department for Levelling Up, Housing and Communities (DLUHC) has surrendered hundreds of millions of pounds budgeted for 2022-23, including £255m meant to fund new affordable housing and £245m meant to improve building safety.


If you read the articles you will come across one about millions received for Council House improvements in Chesterfield.

Listen, you are Labour through and through and you would never ever criticise the local council or the Labour Party and I get that, I really do and I respect your view. The thing is, I don't agree, I think our council overspends which is clear from their recent statements and their own admission and I think our council is poorly run but you absolutely can't accept that I should think differently from you. I am currently not a Labour supporter nor am I a fan of the Tories. I am not influanced by any party.

You should try and accept that people have a different opinion to you. You dont have to agree with them or try to belittle them just put your point across.
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Posted 06 September 2023 - 08:55 AM

View PostQuaker, on 06 September 2023 - 08:46 AM, said:

If you read the articles you will come across one about millions received for Council House improvements in Chesterfield.

Listen, you are Labour through and through and you would never ever criticise the local council or the Labour Party and I get that, I really do and I respect your view. The thing is, I don't agree, I think our council overspends which is clear from their recent statements and their own admission and I think our council is poorly run but you absolutely can't accept that I should think differently from you. I am currently not a Labour supporter nor am I a fan of the Tories. I am not influanced by any party.

You should try and accept that people have a different opinion to you. You dont have to agree with them or try to belittle them just put your point across.

Perhaps you should employ those principles espoused in your last paragraph by not lecturing me and/or pigeonholing my beliefs and opinions.

Good day Sir

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Posted 06 September 2023 - 08:56 AM

It’s just waste, similar to NHS , plenty of money , just a whole culture of mismanagement
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Posted 06 September 2023 - 09:03 AM

View PostSearch & Destroy, on 06 September 2023 - 08:56 AM, said:

It’s just waste, similar to NHS , plenty of money , just a whole culture of mismanagement

You include funding empty prison hulks and cheap flights to Rwanda :)
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Posted 06 September 2023 - 05:49 PM

View PostQuaker, on 06 September 2023 - 08:46 AM, said:

If you read the articles you will come across one about millions received for Council House improvements in Chesterfield.

Listen, you are Labour through and through and you would never ever criticise the local council or the Labour Party and I get that, I really do and I respect your view. The thing is, I don't agree, I think our council overspends which is clear from their recent statements and their own admission and I think our council is poorly run but you absolutely can't accept that I should think differently from you. I am currently not a Labour supporter nor am I a fan of the Tories. I am not influanced by any party.

You should try and accept that people have a different opinion to you. You dont have to agree with them or try to belittle them just put your point across.


Please stop doing this, Mark.

Accusing folk of being hard line whilst claiming you're not. And using that accusation to somehow demean what they're saying.

Hell, we had this out when you dubbed local councillors "scum" simply 'cos none turned up at a meeting and advised everyone to vote Lib' Dem' based on one of their leaflets.

The Birmingham thing has specific causes. Namely the council being ordered to cough up three quarters of a billion by a judge. However tory Thurrock and Woking councils went bust following their high stake gambling with taxpayers cash.

https://www.bbc.co.u...-essex-64512277

https://www.theguard...th-12bn-deficit

I might take your, the Rowe fanboy's or anyone else's indignation a little more seriously had they uttered a word to condemn that.

CBC isn't going bust. But it is having to in some way balance books torn asunder by government cuts: https://www.theguard...-watchdog-warns

Cuts which have, surprise-surprise, targeted Labour areas harder than tory ones: https://www.theguard...than-tory-areas

Of course the greatest hypocrisy of all is supporters of a party which blew tens of billions on useless test and trace schemes, billions more on crony contracts, currently has a bloke in Number Ten who casually wrote off several billions defrauded following the likes of his 'Eat Out' scheme and has raised the national debt to almost one hundred percenr of GDP pointing fingers at the Opposition...
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Posted 07 September 2023 - 07:55 AM

Nothing wrong with the Eat Out initiative
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Posted 07 September 2023 - 09:35 AM

View PostThe Earl of Chesterfield, on 06 September 2023 - 05:49 PM, said:

Please stop doing this, Mark.

Accusing folk of being hard line whilst claiming you're not. And using that accusation to somehow demean what they're saying.

Hell, we had this out when you dubbed local councillors "scum" simply 'cos none turned up at a meeting and advised everyone to vote Lib' Dem' based on one of their leaflets.

The Birmingham thing has specific causes. Namely the council being ordered to cough up three quarters of a billion by a judge. However tory Thurrock and Woking councils went bust following their high stake gambling with taxpayers cash.

https://www.bbc.co.u...-essex-64512277

https://www.theguard...th-12bn-deficit

I might take your, the Rowe fanboy's or anyone else's indignation a little more seriously had they uttered a word to condemn that.

CBC isn't going bust. But it is having to in some way balance books torn asunder by government cuts: https://www.theguard...-watchdog-warns

Cuts which have, surprise-surprise, targeted Labour areas harder than tory ones: https://www.theguard...than-tory-areas

Of course the greatest hypocrisy of all is supporters of a party which blew tens of billions on useless test and trace schemes, billions more on crony contracts, currently has a bloke in Number Ten who casually wrote off several billions defrauded following the likes of his 'Eat Out' scheme and has raised the national debt to almost one hundred percenr of GDP pointing fingers at the Opposition...

A post littered with links to Guardian articles! As unbiased as ever !
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Posted 07 September 2023 - 10:23 AM

View PostMr Mercury, on 07 September 2023 - 09:35 AM, said:

A post littered with links to Guardian articles! As unbiased as ever !


You have committed fallacious argumentation:

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The genetic fallacy (also known as the fallacy of origins or fallacy of virtue)[1] is a fallacy of irrelevance in which arguments or information are dismissed or validated based solely on their source of origin rather than their content. In other words, a claim is ignored or given credibility based on its source rather than the claim itself.


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