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But Hey Tomorrow Is Another Day/ashley Carson

#21 martatcross

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 02:06 PM

calvin plummers socks, on 19 February 2017 - 01:09 PM, said:

The Darren Brown comparisons are hardly fair are they?

Brown was an out and out criminal- a villain who lied and robbed the Club.

DA and AC have given the club good times but have been undone by some eye watering stupid decisions which don't seem like changing (like having faith in serial failure CT).

2 very different things

Not what I'm saying mate I'm saying that MrAllen needs assurances that who ever takes over doesn't lead us down the Brown path not that they are

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 02:31 PM

calvin plummers socks, on 19 February 2017 - 01:09 PM, said:

They both gave us good times, and both lost us a great deal of money. Could it be that ones just a hell of a lot smarter than the other? (time will tell on that one). Are you also saying our current incumbents don't lie; and where has all the money gone? :blink:

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 03:21 PM

Chris

I think you may find DA will sell for what he has put in but you have to realise the reason perhaps he is asking for someone with proof of funding for £15M to make sure they have the collateral to keep the club afloat. So let's say he sells for £10M and then there is £5M to ensure the survival of the club, that's what I think anyway.

Pity we didn't do this before one Darren Brown came to the club !!

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 03:37 PM

itsc, on 19 February 2017 - 03:21 PM, said:

Steve.

I hope I'm not breaking any confidence by revealing Ashley has said Allen might take twelve, or even ten million for the Club. As you say, more or less his loans. And of course he'll need assurances he'll be paid in full. That said the longer this 'Mexican stand off' continues, the longer the Club suffers. My understanding is Allen's yet to shift from his fifteen million price tag so I don't blame the supposed consortium for holding equally firm.

Meanwhile CFC's value can only plummet.

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 03:38 PM

spireitenag, on 19 February 2017 - 09:33 AM, said:

Local people with the interests of the club at heart.

It is not however my place to start revealing identities.

No offence, but what a load of b0locks !!

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 03:40 PM

Jontt, on 19 February 2017 - 03:38 PM, said:

No offence, but what a load of b0locks !!

Would you care to elaborate ?

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 03:47 PM

Chris

I don't think Ashley has said a figure as far as I know but you have to agree that whoever comes in needs to have a lot of money to invest in the squad and the running of the stadium without that we will end up in a mess very quickly

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 03:50 PM

itsc, on 19 February 2017 - 03:21 PM, said:

What credentials does he have for wanting to ensure the future prosperity of CFC?
Any concern shown in that direction would be fake.

Get it on, bang the gong , get it on

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 03:56 PM

dim view, on 19 February 2017 - 03:50 PM, said:

What credentials does he have for wanting to ensure the future prosperity of CFC?
Any concern shown in that direction would be fake.

I agree entirely, any attempt to make the £15m asking price, which AC agreed with at the AGM, make DA seem to be that he is looking out for the future of the club is, in my opinion, ludicrous.

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 03:58 PM

itsc, on 19 February 2017 - 03:47 PM, said:

We are already in a mess! The reason any new buyer, or buyers, would need the millions in extra funding is quite simply down to the way the club has been run this last couple of years.

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 04:10 PM

itsc, on 19 February 2017 - 03:47 PM, said:

We're already in a mess. A damn big mess.

Which kinda negates the claim Allen's somehow seeking fifteen million for the Club's good.

I get the bloke going big with his initial price-tag - that's what everyone does at the start of negotiations. However he owns an insolvent business, that by AC's own prediction will lose another seven figure sum this year, and is about to be relegated.

If he really wants what's best for CFC cut out the posturing and sell to locals who have an emotional connection.

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 04:14 PM

Mr Mercury, on 19 February 2017 - 03:56 PM, said:

I agree entirely, any attempt to make the £15m asking price, which AC agreed with at the AGM, make DA seem to be that he is looking out for the future of the club is, in my opinion, ludicrous.

'All those who are genuinely interested in the future well being of CFC take one step forward. Not so fast you 3.....'

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 04:20 PM

What amazes me is that people think that Allen actually gives a f*** about anything other than the return on his investment. I'd imagine he wouldn't batter an eyelid should the club crumble as he's running into the sunset with his wad in hand.

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 04:43 PM

Mrhappy, on 19 February 2017 - 04:20 PM, said:

you beat me 2 it was just about to post same thing , he dont give a rats ar5e about the club he just wants to bleed it dry

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 04:51 PM

How many dim view of those that step forward can say they have the collateral to keep it going?

As far as I know nobody

No football club these days make any money it is down to those individuals with the cash to keep propping it up

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 04:53 PM

itsc, on 19 February 2017 - 04:51 PM, said:

some do it better if 5 million plus is gifted to them ,

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 04:57 PM

Well that's 5 then were is the other 5 and the. Some surplus ?

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 05:00 PM

itsc, on 19 February 2017 - 04:51 PM, said:

Can you explain Dave Allens current position then?

How does lending the club money every month, with a healthy 5% interest rate attached, meet your criteria above?

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 05:06 PM

Sammy can you suggest an alternative solution then?

Witout DA money we are in administration and knackered at least we have a chance of staying up still this season.

Sammy forgot we lose an 1M if we go down best add that to your calculations while your trying to work it out