2012 Relgation Season Davis Moussa etc...
#1
Posted 25 November 2015 - 09:42 AM
When you look at the players we brought in - and nearly saved ourselves after a dreadful run.
Frank Moussa David Davis Jimmy Juan Leon Clarke James Hurst Lee Johnson Jonathan Grounds Lester
Most of these, when not injured went on to have a reasonably successful career.
Most if not all of these players would have walked into Saunders team.
I hate to say this but the likes of Herd Wood Novak and arguably E bblake are all coming down in the footballing world - they've had a good career but imo are not right for Chesterfield. Those like Liam O Neil have a big question mark against them.
Drastic times call for drastic measures i'm afraid. If Saunders is unwilling or unable to recruit players of a required standard, given his budget, then he should go.
#2
Posted 25 November 2015 - 09:54 AM
Elton John 1866, on 25 November 2015 - 09:42 AM, said:
When you look at the players we brought in - and nearly saved ourselves after a dreadful run.
Frank Moussa David Davis Jimmy Juan Leon Clarke James Hurst Lee Johnson Jonathan Grounds Lester
Most of these, when not injured went on to have a reasonably successful career.
Most if not all of these players would have walked into Saunders team.
I hate to say this but the likes of Herd Wood Novak and arguably E bblake are all coming down in the footballing world - they've had a good career but imo are not right for Chesterfield. Those like Liam O Neil have a big question mark against them.
Drastic times call for drastic measures i'm afraid. If Saunders is unwilling or unable to recruit players of a required standard, given his budget, then he should go.
can't disagree with that, but from the jist of what was said at the AGM, I would put money on nothing changing whatsoever, so don't hold your breath.
The sun shines brightly out of his bottom.
#3
Posted 25 November 2015 - 09:59 AM
You are never going to have a settled squad when you are bringing different loan players in all the time.
FWIW I think this side is significantly better than the 2012 team. Even after the last 3 games.
#4
Posted 25 November 2015 - 10:02 AM
Stents, on 25 November 2015 - 09:59 AM, said:
You are never going to have a settled squad when you are bringing different loan players in all the time.
FWIW I think this side is significantly better than the 2012 team. Even after the last 3 games.
I can't agree there -
#5
Posted 25 November 2015 - 10:05 AM
#6
Posted 25 November 2015 - 10:06 AM
I think you are in a very big minority with that mate.
#7
Posted 25 November 2015 - 10:09 AM
Spire-ite, on 25 November 2015 - 10:06 AM, said:
I think you are in a very big minority with that mate.
I think if this conversation had come on the back of 2/3 wins rather than losses that minority might not be as much of a minority.
Very fickle are football fans. Very short memories.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the current set up is good! Just think it is better than the 2012 relegation side.
#8
Posted 25 November 2015 - 10:16 AM
Stents, on 25 November 2015 - 10:05 AM, said:
Team that lost 1-0 at home to the Blunts on Nov 26th 2011 which is the season in question...
G Fleming
N Trotman
S Ford
S Griffiths
M Allott
(86) L Johnson
(88) T Obadeyi
A Mendy
J Bowery
A Talbot
(87) L Clarke
D Whitaker
D Mattis
(86) C Westcarr
(87) J Lester
(88) D Morgan
Soccerbase is your answer for all these sorts of questions.....
This post has been edited by JonB: 25 November 2015 - 10:17 AM
#9
Posted 25 November 2015 - 10:17 AM
Stents, on 25 November 2015 - 10:05 AM, said:
Greg Fleming
Defender Neal Trotman
Defender/Centre back Simon Ford
Defender/Forward Drew Talbot
Defender/Left back Scott Griffiths
Midfielder Lee Johnson
Midfielder Alex Mendy
Midfielder/Forward Mark Allott
Forward Tope Obadeyi
Forward Leon Clarke
Forward Jordan Bowery
tbh - they are both poor teams
#10
Posted 25 November 2015 - 10:22 AM
Not sure I'd have any of that XI in place of our current XI. Griffiths and Clarke maybe?
#13
Posted 25 November 2015 - 10:34 AM
#14
Posted 25 November 2015 - 10:39 AM
brianclose, on 25 November 2015 - 10:34 AM, said:
Seb and Novak are good enough for a top half L1 side, they are not the problem. To state the obvious the big problem is in midfield, especially since we lost Martinez. The other midfielder we signed isnt deemed worthy of a start by the guy who signed him a few months ago.
#15
Posted 25 November 2015 - 11:13 AM
Spire-Power, on 25 November 2015 - 10:39 AM, said:
Not sure about Novak/Blake - they are two similar and don't play well/complement each at all. Blake was shocking last night, as was Novak
#16
Posted 25 November 2015 - 11:23 AM
Spire-Power, on 25 November 2015 - 10:39 AM, said:
You're quite right - the supply chain is broken. Might not be so bad if the midfield was offering more protection to the defence, but it's failing on both counts.
Basically, Sammy's on his own. The others - no cover for the defence and very little creativity, coupled with Gardner's tendency to lose the ball more than pass it.
And we're now seeing what last season's defence would have been like without Morsy and Ryan in front of them, despite the fact that Evatt is now fitter and more commanding.
#18
Posted 25 November 2015 - 11:24 AM
Spire-Power, on 25 November 2015 - 10:39 AM, said:
You're quite right - the supply chain is broken. Might not be so bad if the midfield was offering more protection to the defence, but it's failing on both counts.
Basically, Sammy's on his own. The others - no cover for the defence and very little creativity, coupled with Gardner's tendency to lose the ball more than pass it.
And we're now seeing what last season's defence would have been like without Morsy and Ryan in front of them, despite the fact that Evatt is now fitter and more commanding.
#19
Posted 25 November 2015 - 11:46 AM
brianclose, on 25 November 2015 - 10:34 AM, said:
Griffiths was ok in League 2 but not league 1 but thats old ground we dont need to be covering. Clarke you never know what you are going to get so its a gamble whoever signs him at whatever level. Bowery will split opinion on here but i would have him in this current side. Aside from that the defence, Drew aside, and keeper give you nightmares!
#20
Posted 25 November 2015 - 12:19 PM
JonB, on 25 November 2015 - 10:16 AM, said:
G Fleming
N Trotman
S Ford
S Griffiths
M Allott
(86) L Johnson
(88) T Obadeyi
A Mendy
J Bowery
A Talbot
(87) L Clarke
D Whitakern
D Mattis
(86) C Westcarr
(87) J Lester
(88) D Morgan
Soccerbase is your answer for all these sorts of questions.....
I'd forgotten what a wretched side that was. Mind you, I've tried to block out that season completely.