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Chairman Appeals For Fans Support

#181 The Earl of Chesterfield

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 05:30 PM

Elton John 1866, on 21 July 2014 - 04:44 PM, said:

What's all this got to do with the fans? It's not the fans who are here now, who have attended, it's the ones who don't attend, the glory seekers, once a season lot who TUrner and Allen are having a go at

It's got nowt to do with fans - any fans, "glory hunters" or not - and everything to do with individuals at the Club getting their sums wrong.

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 05:32 PM

Bottom line seems to be that Paul Cook is paying for last year's financial mistakes.

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 05:41 PM

lindave, on 21 July 2014 - 04:24 PM, said:

At our meeting last week it was said DA didn't think GB would have filled the Stadium. It will be interesting to see who comes next year for both concerts.

itll be THE KRANKIES

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 05:48 PM

lindo-spireite, on 21 July 2014 - 03:46 PM, said:

IMO we would have ended up in the conference at Saltergate

That old chestnut, the one that allows us to excuse every failure since we left

Well we'll never know, but I think we would be L1/L2 scraping around on our bare backside, bit like we are doing know

Admittedly we have more potential in the new stadium, if only we could find someone to unlock it

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 05:56 PM

MDCCCLXVI, on 21 July 2014 - 05:18 PM, said:

Gi'o'er' Dave.

The reason your pal and the old lot were >ahem< 'asked to stand down' was because Allen is still paying for the mistakes they made.

I hope at some stage DA is asked to explain the real reasons for the alleged £3m black hole that he allegedly knew nowt about - and I hope I'm there to raise my eyebrows.

Get it on, bang the gong , get it on

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 06:01 PM

MDCCCLXVI, on 21 July 2014 - 05:18 PM, said:

Gi'o'er' Dave.

The reason your pal and the old lot were >ahem< '~~asked~~ told to stand down' was because Allen is still paying for the mistakes they made.

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 06:42 PM

I think a lot of people are getting into a tizzy about nothing. What do you serious expect a team in a town the size of Chesterfield to achieve. We have won the league twice and got to Wembley twice because of DA and his money. Even with the lower budget we still probably are spending more than ten teams in league 1, and should not seriously be expecting to get in the championship where teams such as Fulham have spent £11m.
The only mistake DA made was assuming we would get 7k attendance's in a division where lots of clubs bring few supporters, and assuming Tom Jones would be a sell out. I didn't think there was ever a chance, and then when he arranged a lot of more concerts round the country there no possibility.

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 06:52 PM

60s 70s Spireite, on 21 July 2014 - 12:19 PM, said:

A simple guess. Poor internal reporting and bosses who decided they could manage without someone who could tell them how it was, not how they wanted it to be.

Just a guess........ Maybe DA went into the meeting cocksure that he could persuade the Directors to postpone their interest payments in order to secure a bigger player budget, and came out with a thick ear. DJ's loans for instance have gone up by nearly £1m since the old days, so it's not just DA putting the money in.

And maybe DA had told PC up to that point that he'd have no problem talking them into it.

Get it on, bang the gong , get it on

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 07:04 PM

brianclose, on 21 July 2014 - 10:07 AM, said:

How could anyone with any semblance of accounting sense get the attendance figure so horribly wrong?

We budgeted for a 5,000 break even figure for the first season at the ProAct. We managed just short of 7,000 with the feelgood factor of new ground, new optimism, a decent amount of local games the best strike force weve had in years, fast entertaining football and top almost from the word go.

Fast forward 2 years, weve had a shocking relegation season, unrest with the previous manager,the novelty factor of ground etc well and truly worn off, a new man who has come in who has slowly turned things around playing decent-ish football but with no real vim and vigour,a poorer league 2 composition geographically, and an underachieving 8th place finish.

Who in their right mind would budget for a 7,000 break even figure for the 2013-14 season given the above facts?

Spot on, said exactly the same in a post a couple of weeks ago.
To answer your question, a man with very little knowledge of the town and the historical fan base of this club!

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 09:01 PM

shetlandblue, on 21 July 2014 - 07:04 PM, said:

Spot on, said exactly the same in a post a couple of weeks ago.
To answer your question, a man with very little knowledge of the town and the historical fan base of this club!

He said at one of the forums when asked about his time at SW that it was the fans that inspired his decision to quit. I wonder if he as a businessman has realised he cannot make any money out of CFC and would use the stay away fans as an excuse. I spoke to someone 2 weeks ago who has had some association with the club ("dont ask as I cannot divulge") and he said he sensed something was not right at the proact and he thought that CT was the wrong man for the job.

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 09:08 PM

Anybody who is complaining about the financial position of the club can if they wish give the club some money. Sure the club would more than happy to have any donations.

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 09:13 PM

We apparently only had the 8th highest budget in league 2 last season but I wonder if this seasons budget has been hit by the bonuses? So in theory we were all thinking we did a great job to win the league with only the 8th highest budget but we could have been a lot higher up. To get (allegedly) 3 high earners off the wage bill this season and still be skint definitely doesn't add up.

needdm, on 21 July 2014 - 09:08 PM, said:

Anybody who is complaining about the financial position of the club can if they wish give the club some money. Sure the club would more than happy to have any donations.

I've given it £700 quid is that enough

#193 60s 70s Spireite

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 09:19 PM

On the subject of bonuses, and the seemingly unexpected costs, why on earth didn't the club insure against them?
Eg Catlin bonus cover

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 09:31 PM

MDCCCLXVI, on 21 July 2014 - 05:18 PM, said:

Gi'o'er' Dave.

The reason your pal and the old lot were >ahem< 'asked to stand down' was because Allen is still paying for the mistakes they made.

Oh give it a rest. Mr. Allen is paying for the dramatic reduction in land prices that meant we got millions less for Saltergate than we would have done three years earlier.
A drop in land prices that was foreseen by nobody, and for which even such a biased source as you can't possibly hold BH responsible.
Nasty cough you've >ahem< managed to pick up. If you've got something to say then say it, and spare us the Beano stuff.

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 09:39 PM

needdm, on 21 July 2014 - 06:42 PM, said:

especially when bananarama are playing at the rewind festival

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 09:40 PM

Westbars Spireite, on 21 July 2014 - 05:32 PM, said:

Bottom line seems to be that Paul Cook is paying for last year's financial mistakes.

But if they budgeted for 7000 crowds and spent accordingly, then PC got the benefit of that last season when he managed to sign some big hitters, relatively speaking.
The clucking noise is the chickens coming home to roost. Fortunately his big signings will be quite good enough for L1.

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 10:02 PM

Westbars Spireite, on 21 July 2014 - 05:32 PM, said:

Bottom line seems to be that Paul Cook is paying for last year's financial mistakes.

Championship and Wembley appearance may indicate that he got it right financially?

My worry is after investing so much into the club why is DA tightening his belt. When surely he knows if you put on a good spread people will pay the rate. So buy at least one quality striker and start winning and people will come back steadily. It really is sound business sense. Invest to get a return.

After the new ground promo season the fans who came back (or even the brand new fans) were totally dismayed and were lost with the very disastrous LG1 season under Sheridan. It really still does cut deep with many and they will not return until they see quality signings, exciting football with lots of goals. The problem with this level of football is it is far too expensive for many people to go regularly. £15 adults and £5 kids would help to get more games sold, even a cricket style 6 game advance ticket for £66 is would help get his 7000 fans in. Its either a season ticket or full price, the business has little nous to entice part-time supporters to the games.

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 10:15 PM

nugnag, on 21 July 2014 - 10:02 PM, said:

There's no way the club would ever offer a 6 ticket deal, which would presumably contain at least one local derby at a rate cheaper than a season ticket, pro rata

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 10:53 PM

That's the problem, you can't offer shorter term deals that rival the prices that season ticket holders enjoy

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Posted 22 July 2014 - 05:40 AM

Ernie Ernie Ernie, on 21 July 2014 - 10:15 PM, said:

There's no way the club would ever offer a 6 ticket deal, which would presumably contain at least one local derby at a rate cheaper than a season ticket, pro rata

A valid point.The cricket deal is any six matches.This would enable the holder to subsidised entrance to United ,Barnsley,Doncaster,County,Bradford and say Coventry which could potentially undermine season ticket sales.Interestingly the funding for County cricket comes mainly from the ECB and not from the one man and his dog who have enjoyed the last two scorching days at a Derby watching an excellent performance I may add.Mr Dyke and his Premier league should stump up more cash in a similar vein to support the League structure