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#101 User is offline   shaun1866 

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 03:00 PM

View PostMDCCCLXVI, on 18 August 2017 - 02:59 PM, said:

Report on Flores from a contact in the NW: decent left foot, did quite well for Blackpool last season but needs to improve on the defensive side of his game. Compared him to Olly Banks.

Oh, and by the way; I'm hearing Caldwell's reasons for not playing him when Wigan manager are, well, interesting...


Well tell us then ?
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Posted 18 August 2017 - 03:08 PM

[quote name='shaun1866' timestamp='1503068455' post='1321700']
Well tell us then ?


Not good enough to get into their team would be reason enough. Presumably Cook thinks the same.
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Posted 18 August 2017 - 03:15 PM

View Postshaun1866, on 18 August 2017 - 03:00 PM, said:

Well tell us then ?


I'm sure it'll come out in the press.

On a wider issue, though, this leaves us going yet another game without a left footed defender.

Unless the Manager has summat else lined up in the next twenty four(ish) hours, of course.

Genuinely pleased for the hugely likable 'DD' and a little surprised we've got fee, modest as it is, for a lad that's not quite a left back, not quite a winger and not quite a central midfielder.

But hey - I said the same thing about Sam Clucas...
Spanish proverb: 'Pessimists are just well informed optimists'
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Posted 18 August 2017 - 03:16 PM

View Postboot, on 18 August 2017 - 03:08 PM, said:

Not good enough to get into their team would be reason enough. Presumably Cook thinks the same.

He was good enough to make 14 starts and 5 subs appearances for Blackpool in their play off run in from Jan 17. It's all we can hope for it seems nowadays.
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Posted 18 August 2017 - 03:18 PM

View PostMDCCCLXVI, on 18 August 2017 - 03:15 PM, said:

I'm sure it'll come out in the press.

On a wider issue, though, this leaves us going yet another game without a left footed defender.

Unless the Manager has summat else lined up in the next twenty four(ish) hours, of course.

Genuinely pleased for the hugely likable 'DD' and a little surprised we've got fee, modest as it is, for a lad that's not quite a left back, not quite a winger and not quite a central midfielder.

But hey - I said the same thing about Sam Clucas...


DD and Clucas in the same sentence are you comparing the 2?
Come on spill about Flores
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Posted 18 August 2017 - 03:30 PM

View Post60s 70s Spireite, on 18 August 2017 - 03:16 PM, said:

He was good enough to make 14 starts and 5 subs appearances for Blackpool in their play off run in from Jan 17. It's all we can hope for it seems nowadays.

Precisely. League 2 not Championship or League 1. I didn't say he wasn't good enough for League 2 - OK at Blackpool apparently.

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 03:33 PM

View Postboot, on 18 August 2017 - 03:30 PM, said:

Precisely. League 2 not Championship or League 1. I didn't say he wasn't good enough for League 2 - OK at Blackpool apparently.

Point being he wouldn't be coming here if he was would he? See also Louis Reed, no game time season except one start in elf cup v Leicester U23s.
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Posted 18 August 2017 - 03:36 PM

View PostMDCCCLXVI, on 18 August 2017 - 02:59 PM, said:

Report on Flores from a contact in the NW: decent left foot, did quite well for Blackpool last season but needs to improve on the defensive side of his game. Compared him to Olly Banks.

Oh, and by the way; I'm hearing Caldwell's reasons for not playing him when Wigan manager are, well, interesting...



Should be amongst friends then....
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Posted 18 August 2017 - 03:37 PM

View PostMr Mercury, on 18 August 2017 - 02:42 PM, said:

Probably a better goalkeeping coach then his namesake as well!


Aaah but is he as good as his namesake at bouncing up and down in pub door ways, shouting abuse, and wanting 50year olds to "come and have a go"?

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 03:44 PM

I was just wondering who all these central midfielders are that everybody seems to think we have. And if we've got them why don't they have any positive effect on either our attack or defence?

Bet Pompey fans'll be impressed to be recruiting a player from the foot of Division 2. Almost as impressed as me watching us develop young players from other teams whilst our own get the odd friendly in Worksop.
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Posted 18 August 2017 - 03:45 PM

View Post60s 70s Spireite, on 18 August 2017 - 03:33 PM, said:

Point being he wouldn't be coming here if he was would he? See also Louis Reed, no game time season except one start in elf cup v Leicester U23s.


Agree.

Roman appears to be saying that Caldwell didn't pick him at Wigan not because of lack of ability but for some other reason. My take is that he wasn't and isn't good enough to get in Wigan's side or Cook wouldn't allow him out - we agree. He wouldn't be here if he had an issue with Caldwell, so that can't be a problem.
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Posted 18 August 2017 - 03:55 PM

View PostAlbert Holmes Slides In, on 18 August 2017 - 03:44 PM, said:

I was just wondering who all these central midfielders are that everybody seems to think we have. And if we've got them why don't they have any positive effect on either our attack or defence?

Bet Pompey fans'll be impressed to be recruiting a player from the foot of Division 2. Almost as impressed as me watching us develop young players from other teams whilst our own get the odd friendly in Worksop.


And which young player at Worksop was anywhere near good enough yet ? With the possible exception of Dimaio I would say none, and if he can't shine against part-timers who can he shine against.Even Wakefield is nowhere near ready for the rigours of League 2 football.
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Posted 18 August 2017 - 05:09 PM

View PostTyrion, on 18 August 2017 - 03:18 PM, said:

DD and Clucas in the same sentence are you comparing the 2?
Come on spill about Flores


Wasn't it initially reported that the Stags sold Clucas to us for a fee of £70k plus add-ons?
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Posted 18 August 2017 - 05:53 PM

View Postboot, on 18 August 2017 - 03:45 PM, said:

Agree.

Roman appears to be saying that Caldwell didn't pick him at Wigan not because of lack of ability but for some other reason. My take is that he wasn't and isn't good enough to get in Wigan's side or Cook wouldn't allow him out - we agree. He wouldn't be here if he had an issue with Caldwell, so that can't be a problem.

Let's be frank, Gary hardly has a track record for picking/dropping players solely based on performance and ability.

For all we know, Flores could have simply questioned Gc's tactics or team selection

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 06:41 PM

View PostSammy Spireite, on 18 August 2017 - 05:53 PM, said:

Let's be frank, Gary hardly has a track record for picking/dropping players solely based on performance and ability.

For all we know, Flores could have simply questioned Gc's tactics or team selection


So what's Cook's problem with him then? Why is he in League 2 with us? Why was he in League 2 last season? Why is he here at all if he doesn't have time for Caldwell?

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 06:55 PM

View PostTyrion, on 18 August 2017 - 03:18 PM, said:

DD and Clucas in the same sentence are you comparing the 2?
Come on spill about Flores

I heard that Flores shagged Gary Caldwell's cat.
There you go- the rumour is out there.
Please confirm or deny.
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Posted 18 August 2017 - 07:13 PM

View PostSiberian Spireite, on 18 August 2017 - 06:55 PM, said:

I heard that Flores shagged Gary Caldwell's cat.
There you go- the rumour is out there.
Please confirm or deny.


Done the same to Cook's apparently.
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Posted 18 August 2017 - 07:48 PM

View PostSearch and Destroy, on 17 August 2017 - 03:46 PM, said:

Well done Calders

Still think we will go well this year

Well done ?. With a 9% win rate. You having a laugh.
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Posted 18 August 2017 - 08:15 PM

View PostMDCCCLXVI, on 18 August 2017 - 03:15 PM, said:




a lad that's not quite a left back, not quite a winger and not quite a central midfielder.



we've got a fee for a young, naturally left footed player with potential but I see where youre coming from. Hope his departure opens the door for a replacement that suits our needs better atm.
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Posted 18 August 2017 - 08:20 PM

View Post60s 70s Spireite, on 18 August 2017 - 03:33 PM, said:

Point being he wouldn't be coming here if he was would he? See also Louis Reed, no game time season except one start in elf cup v Leicester U23s.

Jeez I know Reed is small but that's going too far
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