[Chesterfield247]

What are people's thoughts on Fleck staying? Didn't see much discussion about that. I suppose a lot of it depends on fitness and wages as to whether its a good, bad or neutral thing.

[Mac]

Chesterfield247, on 20 June 2025 - 07:09 AM, said:

What are people's thoughts on Fleck staying? Didn't see much discussion about that. I suppose a lot of it depends on fitness and wages as to whether its a good, bad or neutral thing.

Hoping that we'll see what he's all about after a full pre-season, only then will be in any sort of position to assess his value. Personally, my expectations for him are pretty high.

[Bald magician]

Chesterfield247, on 20 June 2025 - 07:09 AM, said:

What are people's thoughts on Fleck staying? Didn't see much discussion about that. I suppose a lot of it depends on fitness and wages as to whether its a good, bad or neutral thing.

I'm happy he's staying. His experience will be essential. he will have limited starting opportunities but cookie will know how to maximise his strengths when required.I

I imagine a sensible contract was agreed with him.

Happy

[JonB]

hilly81, on 20 June 2025 - 06:49 AM, said:

Fair. To me, he never really looked happy. Disinterested almost. I think a move would do him good.

I should add that Madden had 9 G/A from even less appearances/minutes than Colclough and pretty much everyone wants him moved on.

Not sure disinterested just that he had other things on his mind which with the court case is likely to be expected. I'll agree with what others say in that dribbling and taking players on he's as good as anyone at this level but its at the end of that run that he isnt as good. Overhit crosses or shots flying over\hitting the side netting are pretty common. If he could sort that final end product he would be a major asset.

[dim view]

Off at a slight tangent........
I wonder if it's a 'done deal' to give Dobra the Captaincy?

It's a difficult one for Cook, who recognises his potential and sees a way to get even more out of him, but at the same time playing him a position that gets regularly rotated.

This post has been edited by dim view: 20 June 2025 - 07:38 AM

[sophocles]

JonB, on 20 June 2025 - 07:25 AM, said:

Not sure disinterested just that he had other things on his mind which with the court case is likely to be expected. I'll agree with what others say in that dribbling and taking players on he's as good as anyone at this level but its at the end of that run that he isnt as good. Overhit crosses or shots flying over\hitting the side netting are pretty common. If he could sort that final end product he would be a major asset.

Completely agree. I haven't seen anyone in L2 who can so comprehensively leave an opponent floundering with a sudden change of direction and burst of pace. If he could more consistently put in a better cross or shot, he'd be one of the most dangerous attackers at this level and possibly L1.

[Westbars Spireite]

JonB, on 20 June 2025 - 07:25 AM, said:

Not sure disinterested just that he had other things on his mind which with the court case is likely to be expected. I'll agree with what others say in that dribbling and taking players on he's as good as anyone at this level but its at the end of that run that he isnt as good. Overhit crosses or shots flying over\hitting the side netting are pretty common. If he could sort that final end product he would be a major asset.

He's unlikely to change at this stage of his career. I'd like him to stay personally.

[monte]

Westbars Spireite, on 20 June 2025 - 08:29 AM, said:

He's unlikely to change at this stage of his career. I'd like him to stay personally.

Agree, I think Duffy should leapfrog him this year, but as an impact sub he's one you know will change the game and get the crowd going. With Boot Confirmed now things are at least firming up well squad shape wise

[LondonBlue]

Chesterfield247, on 20 June 2025 - 07:09 AM, said:

What are people's thoughts on Fleck staying? Didn't see much discussion about that. I suppose a lot of it depends on fitness and wages as to whether its a good, bad or neutral thing.

I was 50:50 on this one. At times, Fleck looked absolutely exceptional. He clearly has plenty of class - but will need youth and pace around him. I can see us rotating Naylor and Fleck alongside Stirk.

[Osborne again]

Chesterfield247, on 20 June 2025 - 07:09 AM, said:

What are people's thoughts on Fleck staying? Didn't see much discussion about that. I suppose a lot of it depends on fitness and wages as to whether its a good, bad or neutral thing.

I think we can only judge him fully, after the pre season and how he performs in competitive games in the new season. Paul Cook has obviously seen enough from him already, or he wouldn't have got a contract. We've had some decent ex Sheffield United players in the past, so I'm hopeful about the two we have now.
My Blade loving brother raves about John Fleck, and he certainly wasn't wrong when we signed Salmons, Deardon and Badger.

[prolurker]

dim view, on 20 June 2025 - 07:38 AM, said:

Off at a slight tangent........
I wonder if it's a 'done deal' to give Dobra the Captaincy?

It's a difficult one for Cook, who recognises his potential and sees a way to get even more out of him, but at the same time playing him a position that gets regularly rotated.

Dunkley, Naylor, Mandeville, Grigg, Fleck would all go ahead of Dobra for captain.

[Phil V 72]

Osborne again, on 20 June 2025 - 09:25 AM, said:

I think we can only judge him fully, after the pre season and how he performs in competitive games in the new season. Paul Cook has obviously seen enough from him already, or he wouldn't have got a contract. We've had some decent ex Sheffield United players in the past, so I'm hopeful about the two we have now.
My Blade loving brother raves about John Fleck, and he certainly wasn't wrong when we signed Salmons, Deardon and Badger.

I think we’ve seen enough of him to see his qualities and as long as we’ve not gone silly money I’m happy with it. We just need someone who can cover a lot of ground and get around the pitch to go alongside him. Hopefully Stirk is that player

[Phil V 72]

LondonBlue, on 20 June 2025 - 09:22 AM, said:

I was 50:50 on this one. At times, Fleck looked absolutely exceptional. He clearly has plenty of class - but will need youth and pace around him. I can see us rotating Naylor and Fleck alongside Stirk.

I think Naylor will be a defensive midfielder and fill-in right sided centre back (as the situation demands)

[lindo-spireite]

dim view, on 20 June 2025 - 07:38 AM, said:

Off at a slight tangent........
I wonder if it's a 'done deal' to give Dobra the Captaincy?

It's a difficult one for Cook, who recognises his potential and sees a way to get even more out of him, but at the same time playing him a position that gets regularly rotated.

I’d say there’s more chance ash palmer being captain

[martatcross]

dim view, on 20 June 2025 - 07:38 AM, said:

Off at a slight tangent........
I wonder if it's a 'done deal' to give Dobra the Captaincy?

It's a difficult one for Cook, who recognises his potential and sees a way to get even more out of him, but at the same time playing him a position that gets regularly rotated.

Dobra won't captain any team until he cuts out his antics and to be honest I haven't seen leadership skills yet maybe one day but far in the future

[frearsghost]

prolurker, on 20 June 2025 - 09:28 AM, said:

Dunkley, Naylor, Mandeville, Grigg, Fleck would all go ahead of Dobra for captain.

Dunkley was out for very long time with his neck injury. Anyone know if he's likely to be fit for the start of the season?

[Bald magician]

prolurker, on 20 June 2025 - 09:28 AM, said:

Dunkley, Naylor, Mandeville, Grigg, Fleck would all go ahead of Dobra for captain.

Mcfadz looks likely to me

[RichThomps1]

frearsghost, on 20 June 2025 - 10:24 AM, said:

Dunkley was out for very long time with his neck injury. Anyone know if he's likely to be fit for the start of the season?

Raring to go

[Osborne again]

martatcross, on 20 June 2025 - 10:18 AM, said:

Dobra won't captain any team until he cuts out his antics and to be honest I haven't seen leadership skills yet maybe one day but far in the future

Dobra doesn't need the responsibility of being captain, yet. I'd say it's between Naylor, Macfadzean, and Dunkley, with Jamie Grimes as club captain. I could well be wrong though 🤔.

[BlueRodneyFern]

frearsghost, on 20 June 2025 - 10:24 AM, said:

Dunkley was out for very long time with his neck injury. Anyone know if he's likely to be fit for the start of the season?

All good scan clear he says he can't wait to play again after talking to him in the gym