[Westbars Spireite]

Spireite_1969, on 20 June 2025 - 05:09 PM, said:

I must have seen the same comments from Orient fans. Orient averaged 0.8 points per game with him in the team and 2 points per game with him not in the team.

While I agree that we should give him a chance, I can't see any concrete piece of evidence to suggest he's worth the price tag.

What 'concrete evidence' are you seeking from online comments and stats?

[Spireite_1969]

Westbars Spireite, on 20 June 2025 - 05:15 PM, said:

What 'concrete evidence' are you seeking from online comments and stats?

Stats don't lie.

[Westbars Spireite]

Spireite_1969, on 20 June 2025 - 05:18 PM, said:

Stats don't lie.

They do many things including just that.

[Spireite_1969]

Westbars Spireite, on 20 June 2025 - 05:20 PM, said:

They do many things including just that.

The sports analytics industry is worth billions of dollars. Would it be worth that if they were as pointless as some on here are saying?

[hilly81]

Spireite_1969, on 20 June 2025 - 05:22 PM, said:

The sports analytics industry is worth billions of dollars. Would it be worth that if they were as pointless as some on here are saying?

Huge if true. You should really pass this on to the football club rather than wasting time on here. Also, make sure they know how he got on at Orient. They probably missed that!

[HaslandBlue58]

Osborne again, on 20 June 2025 - 04:48 PM, said:

I'm sure he'll be fine, and if we listened to other club's supporters on who to sign, we'd be light regards the squad numbers.

We only need to 'listen' to some of our own 'supporters' and we'd struggle to put out a five a side team.🤭

[SpireRam]

I’ll reserve judgment until I’ve seen him in blue. If he does well, we’ve got our goalkeeper cemented for the next three years. If he doesn’t, we’ve got a more than competent one already in the squad that can take his place. No panic needed.

This post has been edited by SpireRam: 20 June 2025 - 05:38 PM

[Spireite_1969]

hilly81, on 20 June 2025 - 05:24 PM, said:

Huge if true. You should really pass this on to the football club rather than wasting time on here. Also, make sure they know how he got on at Orient. They probably missed that!

I don't want to be negative. But seen as someone said to watch the highlights of the Bromley game to see what Boot is like. Have a watch of this.

https://youtu.be/oDA...PbJ-d1yhBsPNY0V

or this https://youtu.be/Q_g...4YSZL_46Fn_-X5S

[Osborne again]

HaslandBlue58, on 20 June 2025 - 05:29 PM, said:

We only need to 'listen' to some of our own 'supporters' and we'd struggle to put out a five a side team.🤭

I remember when we signed Liam Cooper, and the bloke sat beside me reckoned he'd be palmed off into non-league before the season was out 😁.

[dart in the crossbar]

Exharboroughspireite, on 20 June 2025 - 04:34 PM, said:

I think we all have to be realistic. All players at this level are going to have their faults, otherwise they wouldn’t be at this level. Tommy Lee was no different. The new goalkeeper will be exactly the same. However, what I am certain is that cook and the board do not throw cash around lightly. The players who we have purchased in the last few years tended to have been good. I see no reason why this lad should be any different. We have shown with these signings that we aren’t chucking money around left right and centre. I like the balance and like the fact that we have invested in what should be our number one for the next couple of years.

That. Plus the lad's comments about settling down here with his family brings home that it's a big commitment from the likes of this young lad and his family too. As DTP says, this lad and Boot look like a stronger position than we've been it for a bit. He seemed to do especially well at Kilmarnock btw.

[jonnythespireite]

Spireite_1969, on 20 June 2025 - 05:09 PM, said:

I must have seen the same comments from Orient fans. Orient averaged 0.8 points per game with him in the team and 2 points per game with him not in the team.

While I agree that we should give him a chance, I can't see any concrete piece of evidence to suggest he's worth the price tag.

So that points haul was entirely down to the keeper then was it with no regard for the other 10 players on the pitch? Ridiculous.

[HaslandBlue58]

Would someone post a link to the relevant Orient thread regarding the keeper,thanks?

[Spireite_1969]

jonnythespireite, on 20 June 2025 - 06:03 PM, said:

So that points haul was entirely down to the keeper then was it with no regard for the other 10 players on the pitch? Ridiculous.

No it's not entirely down to the goalkeeper, but the contrast is quite noticeable. Same set of players suddenly started averaging over twice as many points when the change was made. This entire change isn't completely on the keeper, but it seemed to have some sort of impact.

We'd be coming to similar conclusions if it was happening with our gks.

[Bald magician]

HaslandBlue58, on 20 June 2025 - 06:10 PM, said:

Would someone post a link to the relevant Orient thread regarding the keeper,thanks?

Ffs didn't he play 10 games for them? Give it a Fookin rest on stats.

Welcome hemming! Looking forward to you being part of an exciting squad.
Please ignore the negativity on here. You have my support

[Blue5]

SpireRam, on 20 June 2025 - 05:38 PM, said:

I’ll reserve judgment until I’ve seen him in blue.

And that’s the reality.

For the vast majority of us that don’t watch a lot of other teams and therefore don’t have an encyclopedic memory of players up and down the leagues, our opinions are formed after at least seeing them play for us, or at least they should be!

[HaslandBlue58]

Bald magician, on 20 June 2025 - 06:17 PM, said:

Ffs didn't he play 10 games for them? Give it a Fookin rest on stats.

Welcome hemming! Looking forward to you being part of an exciting squad.
Please ignore the negativity on here. You have my support

I was asking for a link to their forum just to read what they said about him.Not interested in the stats as I have faith in PC and his team to bring in players they have faith in.
I am not of the technical type and I know some on here can post a link quicker than I can open Google.
You have a tendency to be quick to jump on posters, quite often negative,and starting to give the impression only your opinion matters, suppose you are in good company on here at times.

[jonnythespireite]

Spireite_1969, on 20 June 2025 - 06:13 PM, said:

No it's not entirely down to the goalkeeper, but the contrast is quite noticeable. Same set of players suddenly started averaging over twice as many points when the change was made. This entire change isn't completely on the keeper, but it seemed to have some sort of impact.

We'd be coming to similar conclusions if it was happening with our gks.

How do you know it was the same set of players? Could have been several issues elsewhere.

[azul]

HaslandBlue58, on 20 June 2025 - 06:35 PM, said:

I was asking for a link to their forum just to read what they said about him.Not interested in the stats as I have faith in PC and his team to bring in players they have faith in.
I am not of the technical type and I know some on here can post a link quicker than I can open Google.
You have a tendency to be quick to jump on posters, quite often negative,and starting to give the impression only your opinion matters, suppose you are in good company on here at times.

Hemming
https://lofcforum.bo...-hemming?page=2
Watching a couple of Hemming's bloopers on their highlights and I can see why some Orient fans have downer on him. Look at the stick Thompson has had from a few on here after nothing like that. It won't be pretty if he starts off on similar form.

Markanday
https://lofcforum.bo...arkanday?page=2\
Most seem to think he is a decent player as you'd expect.

[Waller is my hero]

It’s bizarre how quickly some people judge without even seeing a player perform for the club. Clearly, the coaching staff saw something in him, enough to offer a three year deal and pay a fee. I’d rather trust the football professionals making these decisions than fans who seem more interested in spreading negativity.

[Tha Knows...]

Spireite_1969, on 20 June 2025 - 06:13 PM, said:

No it's not entirely down to the goalkeeper, but the contrast is quite noticeable. Same set of players suddenly started averaging over twice as many points when the change was made. This entire change isn't completely on the keeper, but it seemed to have some sort of impact.

We'd be coming to similar conclusions if it was happening with our gks.

Be precise and tell about all the INDIVIDUAL errors he made