[born in 1866]

 Spireite93, on 27 April 2025 - 06:40 PM, said:

I do t know if Fadz coming off at half time yesterday was tactical but if it was due to fitness then it's a defi ite no from me.

Granted it's taken a while but Fleck seems now to be just about up to speed and lasted 90 minutes yesterday

DW said Fadz was subbed because he was on a yellow card but I also think letting Grimes say his farewell may have played a part in PC's decision to sub him.

[Blue5]

 Sammy Spireite, on 27 April 2025 - 06:05 PM, said:

His fitness and injury record, as well as his commitment and conduct are exemplary.

He's been available to work for the vast majority of his CFC career when many others haven't.

As I said a few weeks ago, you don't make mistakes in the treatment room.

[Sammy Spireite]

born in 1866, on 28 April 2025 - 07:58 AM, said:

DW said Fadz was subbed because he was on a yellow card but I also think letting Grimes say his farewell may have played a part in PC's decision to sub him.

he was replaced by Oldaker?!

Grimes came on for the last 15 or so replacing Gordon at left back, I think specifically to counter (Ex-Spireite Jordan Slews) height advantage.

Blue5, on 28 April 2025 - 08:02 AM, said:

He's been available to work for the vast majority of his CFC career when many others haven't.

As I said a few weeks ago, you don't make mistakes in the treatment room.

Fully agree.

That's why I think he'll be a wanted man elsewhere and will easily get a 2/3 year deal at L2 or top NL level.

[dtp]

Blue5, on 28 April 2025 - 07:56 AM, said:

Had all three players been out of contract this summer, I would have retained Jamie over both Chey & Kyle.

As it stands, I expect him to be released as Dunkley is under contract for next season and I suspect so is McFadzean. The issue for me is will either player get close to 35+ appearances next season and should we be building our CD partnership/defence around either player?

After next Saturday we will know whether or not we remain in L2.

If by chance we make the playoffs then we still won’t know.

My point is that we can only build for the league we are in. Certain players will not be prepared to drop to L2 but will play in L1. No doubt Cook will have 2 lists of potential recruits based on this.

Coming back to the3 players you mention - I think both Grimes and MacFadzean could still do a job in L2 as part of the squad but not necessarily as first choice but I am not convinced if we are in L1. As far as Dunkley is concerned surely the management need to be absolutely certain he is going to be able to play from the off next season or they need to be having discussions of a different nature with the player.

One player you haven’t mentioned is Ty Williams. I do wonder if the club will offer him something’s if only to help him financially during his recuperation.

[Burgerman]

Blue5, on 28 April 2025 - 07:56 AM, said:

Had all three players been out of contract this summer, I would have retained Jamie over both Chey & Kyle.

As it stands, I expect him to be released as Dunkley is under contract for next season and I suspect so is McFadzean. The issue for me is will either player get close to 35+ appearances next season and should we be building our CD partnership/defence around either player?

Dunkley has 7 appearances this season and McFadzean around 18? Its a bit risky imho.

[dim view]

jonnythespireite, on 27 April 2025 - 07:16 PM, said:

Grimes has been an exceptional servant to the club. Captained us back into the EFL, committed in every game, a leader. Exactly what you want from a lower league player.
However, let’s face it, if Dunkley had been fit, and clearly the early season plan was to play Araujo alongside him, then JG wouldn’t have featured as many times as he has.

That's an interesting discussion point. Imo, Araujo hasn't passed the 'better at CH than Grimes' test as it turns out. So it may have been the plan, but it wouldn't have yielded the right outcomes. Nowt to do with ability. He's not proved yet that he can handle the big boys.

[born in 1866]

 Sammy Spireite, on 28 April 2025 - 08:03 AM, said:

he was replaced by Oldaker?!

Yes, you're correct. Apparently alcohol messes with your memory.

[fishini]

 dim view, on 28 April 2025 - 09:21 AM, said:

That's an interesting discussion point. Imo, Araujo hasn't passed the 'better at CH than Grimes' test as it turns out. So it may have been the plan, but it wouldn't have yielded the right outcomes. Nowt to do with ability. He's not proved yet that he can handle the big boys.

He's still young plenty of time for him to bulk up

[dim view]

fishini, on 28 April 2025 - 10:48 AM, said:

He's still young plenty of time for him to bulk up

But he hasn't whilst in our care, so I think it's unlikely he'd have kept his place.

[Osborne again]

Araujo is a tidy player but when you look at him compared to our other central defenders, he hasn't the body strength to compete against a lot of strikers in this league. I think that eventually he will make the grade, but I don't think he's anywhere near yet.
I'd like us to get him on a free and develop him.

[jonnythespireite]

dim view, on 28 April 2025 - 09:21 AM, said:

That's an interesting discussion point. Imo, Araujo hasn't passed the 'better at CH than Grimes' test as it turns out. So it may have been the plan, but it wouldn't have yielded the right outcomes. Nowt to do with ability. He's not proved yet that he can handle the big boys.

To be fair we don’t know if it would have yielded the right outcomes as he got injured. He struggled a few times against big lads I agree but he’s a far better footballer with the ball than Grimes.

[dim view]

jonnythespireite, on 28 April 2025 - 11:32 AM, said:

To be fair we don’t know if it would have yielded the right outcomes as he got injured. He struggled a few times against big lads I agree but he’s a far better footballer with the ball than Grimes.

Perhaps so, but that's not the primary requirement.

[JonB]

Saturdays win adds another one to this count....

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playmakerstats @playmaker_EN · 1h
Won 10+ games by 3 or more goals (#Uefa 'Top 5' leagues + #EFL):

Barcelona (12)
Bayern Munich (12)
CHESTERFIELD (10)

[60s 70s Spireite]

fishini, on 28 April 2025 - 10:48 AM, said:

He's still young plenty of time for him to bulk up

Not on our watch though thanks.

[jonnythespireite]

dim view, on 28 April 2025 - 11:34 AM, said:

Perhaps so, but that's not the primary requirement.

I think Mr Cook wants players who can do both sides hence JG will move on.

[boot]

dim view, on 28 April 2025 - 11:34 AM, said:

Perhaps so, but that's not the primary requirement.

Huge question mark against McFadzean for me. Who stays or goes ? McF has been nothing special - good technician when stroking it about under no pressure in our possession football mode, but no more than average where the primary requirement is concerned. Age is against him in my opinion. Cf Fleck - excellent in the last game, and definitely not ready to be pensioned off yet.

[clarevoyant.]

Just got round to watching the highlights, noticed 2 of the bigger talking points have been omitted, strange.

[JonB]

I noticed that one part of the highlights started from the point of the keeper taking the free kick given for the defender running into the keeper.

I often wonder and this backs it up that the clubs shy away from including controversial moments if they can to avoid anything coming of it.

[dim view]

clarevoyant., on 29 April 2025 - 09:57 AM, said:

Just got round to watching the highlights, noticed 2 of the bigger talking points have been omitted, strange.

Who would you say is at fault for their goal?

[clarevoyant.]

dim view, on 29 April 2025 - 10:03 AM, said:

Who would you say is at fault for their goal?

Naylor