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Yes we have certainly had the season thoroughly derailed by injuries but these these are largely over now with the most notable exceptions of Grigg, Dunkley and Gordon - can?t really include the others as they weren?t part of the squad that started the season reasonably well.
However the concern is that even with players such as Dobra, Colclough, Mandy, Naylor and latterly Duffy available we are still struggling.
Maybe we aren?t as good as we thought we were? Naylor, Colclough and Mandy key performers last year are not the same and even Dobra is having little impact, and only Dobra of these could improve. Grigg has been a big miss, but good player has he is also not going to get better and more likely will be worse so don?t rely on on him to be the saviour.
Basically as people have suggested, Dobra and perhaps Duffy apart and Sparkes if we can get him we don?t even have the basis of a decent squad to build on.
We need a couple of goalkeepers, couple of midfielders couple of strikers and probably a whole new defence at the very least. The old players and Oldaker need off loading whilst the likes of Mandy and Banks I would only retain for back up.
It might be a good idea to sign class experienced players but it?s always a gamble which can be expensive and as often as not does pay off. For every Jack Lester how many flops have there been?
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Posted 05 March 2025 - 11:02 AM
I?m wary of any player dropping in class, Naylor was class last year but it was the dog and duck league, this year he has looked sluggish , Grigg scored plenty but realistically he scored less than mcallum who we had before, been injured this season and next year is 35, Madden has done nothing, looks a bit overweight to me, cooks pensioner signing policy is failing
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Posted 05 March 2025 - 11:04 AM
Zigsuk, on 05 March 2025 - 10:56 AM, said:
Yes we have certainly had the season thoroughly derailed by injuries but these these are largely over now with the most notable exceptions of Grigg, Dunkley and Gordon - can?t really include the others as they weren?t part of the squad that started the season reasonably well.
However the concern is that even with players such as Dobra, Colclough, Mandy, Naylor and latterly Duffy available we are still struggling.
Maybe we aren?t as good as we thought we were? Naylor, Colclough and Mandy key performers last year are not the same and even Dobra is having little impact, and only Dobra of these could improve. Grigg has been a big miss, but good player has he is also not going to get better and more likely will be worse so don?t rely on on him to be the saviour.
Basically as people have suggested, Dobra and perhaps Duffy apart and Sparkes if we can get him we don?t even have the basis of a decent squad to build on.
We need a couple of goalkeepers, couple of midfielders couple of strikers and probably a whole new defence at the very least. The old players and Oldaker need off loading whilst the likes of Mandy and Banks I would only retain for back up.
It might be a good idea to sign class experienced players but it?s always a gamble which can be expensive and as often as not does pay off. For every Jack Lester how many flops have there been?
However the concern is that even with players such as Dobra, Colclough, Mandy, Naylor and latterly Duffy available we are still struggling.
Maybe we aren?t as good as we thought we were? Naylor, Colclough and Mandy key performers last year are not the same and even Dobra is having little impact, and only Dobra of these could improve. Grigg has been a big miss, but good player has he is also not going to get better and more likely will be worse so don?t rely on on him to be the saviour.
Basically as people have suggested, Dobra and perhaps Duffy apart and Sparkes if we can get him we don?t even have the basis of a decent squad to build on.
We need a couple of goalkeepers, couple of midfielders couple of strikers and probably a whole new defence at the very least. The old players and Oldaker need off loading whilst the likes of Mandy and Banks I would only retain for back up.
It might be a good idea to sign class experienced players but it?s always a gamble which can be expensive and as often as not does pay off. For every Jack Lester how many flops have there been?
I would try and offload Madden in your list as well. Been very disappointing so far. Perhaps the Cook system doesn't suit him.
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Posted 05 March 2025 - 11:37 AM
The problem is replacing key players in January was always going to be a test, and now the team are losing games, it becomes even more difficult for those coming into the team/squad.
The loss of McFadzean is a massive one, until the point he went off he looked the leader we had been missing since Dunkley got injured. However, as many of you have said, it seems like signing players in the twilight of their career hasn't worked this season, and the legacy of others we have signed could be hanging over the team for a while.
Personally though, I prefer to look at it through more positive lens, the management team now know for certain which parts of the team need strengthening next season, and they have got now until the transfer window to get the list together and to start planning and preparing for the crucial summer of transfers.
Personally I think Madden, Grigg and Naylor all have key roles to play moving forward, and I thought until his moment of madness, that Madden was doing alright last night, without being fully sharp and fully fit. Naylor is a great professional, as is Grigg and both have that touch of class required to keep themselves in the team, or around the team next season.
I think the questions I want answering are around Dunkley and McFadzean. If the former doesn't get back to playing, that leaves a massive gap in the squad, which we have seen Ty, Palmer and Grimes struggle to fill. It also makes Naylor a bit of a all rounder, which I think has been a massive negative to his season.
Hopefully we pick up a few wins in the next games, then we can be happy (enough) to focus on the future. However, the more we lose in a row, the nervier it gets.
The loss of McFadzean is a massive one, until the point he went off he looked the leader we had been missing since Dunkley got injured. However, as many of you have said, it seems like signing players in the twilight of their career hasn't worked this season, and the legacy of others we have signed could be hanging over the team for a while.
Personally though, I prefer to look at it through more positive lens, the management team now know for certain which parts of the team need strengthening next season, and they have got now until the transfer window to get the list together and to start planning and preparing for the crucial summer of transfers.
Personally I think Madden, Grigg and Naylor all have key roles to play moving forward, and I thought until his moment of madness, that Madden was doing alright last night, without being fully sharp and fully fit. Naylor is a great professional, as is Grigg and both have that touch of class required to keep themselves in the team, or around the team next season.
I think the questions I want answering are around Dunkley and McFadzean. If the former doesn't get back to playing, that leaves a massive gap in the squad, which we have seen Ty, Palmer and Grimes struggle to fill. It also makes Naylor a bit of a all rounder, which I think has been a massive negative to his season.
Hopefully we pick up a few wins in the next games, then we can be happy (enough) to focus on the future. However, the more we lose in a row, the nervier it gets.
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Posted 05 March 2025 - 11:46 AM
Nassau_board, on 05 March 2025 - 11:37 AM, said:
The problem is replacing key players in January was always going to be a test, and now the team are losing games, it becomes even more difficult for those coming into the team/squad.
The loss of McFadzean is a massive one, until the point he went off he looked the leader we had been missing since Dunkley got injured. However, as many of you have said, it seems like signing players in the twilight of their career hasn't worked this season, and the legacy of others we have signed could be hanging over the team for a while.
Personally though, I prefer to look at it through more positive lens, the management team now know for certain which parts of the team need strengthening next season, and they have got now until the transfer window to get the list together and to start planning and preparing for the crucial summer of transfers.
Personally I think Madden, Grigg and Naylor all have key roles to play moving forward, and I thought until his moment of madness, that Madden was doing alright last night, without being fully sharp and fully fit. Naylor is a great professional, as is Grigg and both have that touch of class required to keep themselves in the team, or around the team next season.
I think the questions I want answering are around Dunkley and McFadzean. If the former doesn't get back to playing, that leaves a massive gap in the squad, which we have seen Ty, Palmer and Grimes struggle to fill. It also makes Naylor a bit of a all rounder, which I think has been a massive negative to his season.
Hopefully we pick up a few wins in the next games, then we can be happy (enough) to focus on the future. However, the more we lose in a row, the nervier it gets.
The loss of McFadzean is a massive one, until the point he went off he looked the leader we had been missing since Dunkley got injured. However, as many of you have said, it seems like signing players in the twilight of their career hasn't worked this season, and the legacy of others we have signed could be hanging over the team for a while.
Personally though, I prefer to look at it through more positive lens, the management team now know for certain which parts of the team need strengthening next season, and they have got now until the transfer window to get the list together and to start planning and preparing for the crucial summer of transfers.
Personally I think Madden, Grigg and Naylor all have key roles to play moving forward, and I thought until his moment of madness, that Madden was doing alright last night, without being fully sharp and fully fit. Naylor is a great professional, as is Grigg and both have that touch of class required to keep themselves in the team, or around the team next season.
I think the questions I want answering are around Dunkley and McFadzean. If the former doesn't get back to playing, that leaves a massive gap in the squad, which we have seen Ty, Palmer and Grimes struggle to fill. It also makes Naylor a bit of a all rounder, which I think has been a massive negative to his season.
Hopefully we pick up a few wins in the next games, then we can be happy (enough) to focus on the future. However, the more we lose in a row, the nervier it gets.
I don't recall Ty struggling at all this season. Which one(s) are you referring to?
Zigsuk, on 05 March 2025 - 10:56 AM, said:
Yes we have certainly had the season thoroughly derailed by injuries but these these are largely over now with the most notable exceptions of Grigg, Dunkley and Gordon - can?t really include the others as they weren?t part of the squad that started the season reasonably well.
However the concern is that even with players such as Dobra, Colclough, Mandy, Naylor and latterly Duffy available we are still struggling.
Maybe we aren?t as good as we thought we were? Naylor, Colclough and Mandy key performers last year are not the same and even Dobra is having little impact, and only Dobra of these could improve. Grigg has been a big miss, but good player has he is also not going to get better and more likely will be worse so don?t rely on on him to be the saviour.
Basically as people have suggested, Dobra and perhaps Duffy apart and Sparkes if we can get him we don?t even have the basis of a decent squad to build on.
We need a couple of goalkeepers, couple of midfielders couple of strikers and probably a whole new defence at the very least. The old players and Oldaker need off loading whilst the likes of Mandy and Banks I would only retain for back up.
It might be a good idea to sign class experienced players but it?s always a gamble which can be expensive and as often as not does pay off. For every Jack Lester how many flops have there been?
However the concern is that even with players such as Dobra, Colclough, Mandy, Naylor and latterly Duffy available we are still struggling.
Maybe we aren?t as good as we thought we were? Naylor, Colclough and Mandy key performers last year are not the same and even Dobra is having little impact, and only Dobra of these could improve. Grigg has been a big miss, but good player has he is also not going to get better and more likely will be worse so don?t rely on on him to be the saviour.
Basically as people have suggested, Dobra and perhaps Duffy apart and Sparkes if we can get him we don?t even have the basis of a decent squad to build on.
We need a couple of goalkeepers, couple of midfielders couple of strikers and probably a whole new defence at the very least. The old players and Oldaker need off loading whilst the likes of Mandy and Banks I would only retain for back up.
It might be a good idea to sign class experienced players but it?s always a gamble which can be expensive and as often as not does pay off. For every Jack Lester how many flops have there been?
How on earth are you fairly evaluating Mandy? He's not had a run of 3 starts thus season. In the two games he started in the #10, he was arguably MOTM both times. Imho.
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Posted 05 March 2025 - 11:47 AM
Nassau_board, on 05 March 2025 - 11:37 AM, said:
The problem is replacing key players in January was always going to be a test, and now the team are losing games, it becomes even more difficult for those coming into the team/squad.
The loss of McFadzean is a massive one, until the point he went off he looked the leader we had been missing since Dunkley got injured. However, as many of you have said, it seems like signing players in the twilight of their career hasn't worked this season, and the legacy of others we have signed could be hanging over the team for a while.
Personally though, I prefer to look at it through more positive lens, the management team now know for certain which parts of the team need strengthening next season, and they have got now until the transfer window to get the list together and to start planning and preparing for the crucial summer of transfers.
Personally I think Madden, Grigg and Naylor all have key roles to play moving forward, and I thought until his moment of madness, that Madden was doing alright last night, without being fully sharp and fully fit. Naylor is a great professional, as is Grigg and both have that touch of class required to keep themselves in the team, or around the team next season.
I think the questions I want answering are around Dunkley and McFadzean. If the former doesn't get back to playing, that leaves a massive gap in the squad, which we have seen Ty, Palmer and Grimes struggle to fill. It also makes Naylor a bit of a all rounder, which I think has been a massive negative to his season.
Hopefully we pick up a few wins in the next games, then we can be happy (enough) to focus on the future. However, the more we lose in a row, the nervier it gets.
The loss of McFadzean is a massive one, until the point he went off he looked the leader we had been missing since Dunkley got injured. However, as many of you have said, it seems like signing players in the twilight of their career hasn't worked this season, and the legacy of others we have signed could be hanging over the team for a while.
Personally though, I prefer to look at it through more positive lens, the management team now know for certain which parts of the team need strengthening next season, and they have got now until the transfer window to get the list together and to start planning and preparing for the crucial summer of transfers.
Personally I think Madden, Grigg and Naylor all have key roles to play moving forward, and I thought until his moment of madness, that Madden was doing alright last night, without being fully sharp and fully fit. Naylor is a great professional, as is Grigg and both have that touch of class required to keep themselves in the team, or around the team next season.
I think the questions I want answering are around Dunkley and McFadzean. If the former doesn't get back to playing, that leaves a massive gap in the squad, which we have seen Ty, Palmer and Grimes struggle to fill. It also makes Naylor a bit of a all rounder, which I think has been a massive negative to his season.
Hopefully we pick up a few wins in the next games, then we can be happy (enough) to focus on the future. However, the more we lose in a row, the nervier it gets.
Whisper it, but I thought Madden was playing ok last night as well. Certainly one of his better games. He needed that chance from the edge of the box to find the bottom corner then we would be seeing a whole different set of posts on here today.
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Posted 05 March 2025 - 12:11 PM
To be fair to Madden I too thought he played OK, but the sending off was very stupid.
I thought Madden was probably worth sticking with and see if his goal output changes, but right now my view is somewhat different. Our style of play doesn't suit his and perhaps he'd be better off elsewhere.
I thought Madden was probably worth sticking with and see if his goal output changes, but right now my view is somewhat different. Our style of play doesn't suit his and perhaps he'd be better off elsewhere.
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Posted 05 March 2025 - 12:27 PM
I honestly think the loss of Grigg,Berry,and Markanday has derailed the season more so than the injuries. We havnt recovered from losing their goals and creativity.Put those 3 in last nights side and the result would of been different.
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Posted 05 March 2025 - 12:35 PM
Maddog Tannen, on 05 March 2025 - 12:27 PM, said:
I honestly think the loss of Grigg,Berry,and Markanday has derailed the season more so than the injuries. We havnt recovered from losing their goals and creativity.Put those 3 in last nights side and the result would of been different.
Maybe not Berry - think he was on the wain performance wise.
Defo Markanday and Grigg
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Posted 05 March 2025 - 12:38 PM
Bonnyman, on 05 March 2025 - 11:02 AM, said:
I?m wary of any player dropping in class, Naylor was class last year but it was the dog and duck league, this year he has looked sluggish , Grigg scored plenty but realistically he scored less than mcallum who we had before, been injured this season and next year is 35, Madden has done nothing, looks a bit overweight to me, cooks pensioner signing policy is failing
Cook?s pensioner signing policy?
The comments on here get more ridiculous!
Transfermarkt.com shows we have signed 18 players this season (obviously high cos of injuries) - average age is 25!
Performances have been very poor recently, season has been ruined by injuries and a need to rebuild mid season, but all the nonsense posted about poor recruitment and signing loads of old players is ridiculous!
Injuries have affected young and old players, never known a season like it, we need to get through to the end of the season (hopefully with a bit better form and a top half finish) then build for next year when we should be making a play off push at the very least
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Posted 05 March 2025 - 12:42 PM
Mostly loanees where parent club pays there wages
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warfey is a spireite, on 05 March 2025 - 12:42 PM, said:
Mostly loanees where parent club pays there wages
Said this before and you've no idea about the details of each deal. There is no guarantee that a loan player means they are free. A lot of the time there is potentially a loan fee and we are paying some or all the wages. Its not a case of handouts from the parent club.
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danblue, on 05 March 2025 - 12:35 PM, said:
Maybe not Berry - think he was on the wain performance wise.
Defo Markanday and Grigg
Defo Markanday and Grigg
If you look at our likely first choice eleven at the beginning of the season, probably:
Thompson/Boot
Tanton
Araujo
Dunkley
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Colclough/Berry?
Grigg
Only 2 of those players started last night. It's easy to see why the wheels came off.
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Lincs Spireite, on 05 March 2025 - 11:04 AM, said:
I would try and offload Madden in your list as well. Been very disappointing so far. Perhaps the Cook system doesn't suit him.
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DerbySpireite59, on 05 March 2025 - 11:46 AM, said:
I don't recall Ty struggling at all this season. Which one(s) are you referring to?
The fact he has only played 10 games, and only four games in a row at most. As a central defence you would want them to be playing regularly together and that for me was him struggling with fitness before the sad event at Swindon. I don't think before that point, you could rely on him playing regularly.
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Zigsuk, on 05 March 2025 - 10:56 AM, said:
Yes we have certainly had the season thoroughly derailed by injuries but these these are largely over now with the most notable exceptions of Grigg, Dunkley and Gordon - can?t really include the others as they weren?t part of the squad that started the season reasonably well.
Danny Webb said before yesterday?s match that Lewis Gordon is now available for selection again.
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Cartman, on 05 March 2025 - 12:38 PM, said:
Cook?s pensioner signing policy?
The comments on here get more ridiculous!
Transfermarkt.com shows we have signed 18 players this season (obviously high cos of injuries) - average age is 25!
Performances have been very poor recently, season has been ruined by injuries and a need to rebuild mid season, but all the nonsense posted about poor recruitment and signing loads of old players is ridiculous!
Injuries have affected young and old players, never known a season like it, we need to get through to the end of the season (hopefully with a bit better form and a top half finish) then build for next year when we should be making a play off push at the very least
The comments on here get more ridiculous!
Transfermarkt.com shows we have signed 18 players this season (obviously high cos of injuries) - average age is 25!
Performances have been very poor recently, season has been ruined by injuries and a need to rebuild mid season, but all the nonsense posted about poor recruitment and signing loads of old players is ridiculous!
Injuries have affected young and old players, never known a season like it, we need to get through to the end of the season (hopefully with a bit better form and a top half finish) then build for next year when we should be making a play off push at the very least
Fleck mcfadzean donacien grigg madden dunkley Naylor, Jacob?s all over 30 ? grimes not a cook but 35
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Posted 05 March 2025 - 04:30 PM
Bonnyman, on 05 March 2025 - 03:05 PM, said:
Fleck mcfadzean donacien grigg madden dunkley Naylor, Jacob?s all over 30 ? grimes not a cook but 35
Yes, we?ve signed some older players and we?ve signed some younger ones. An average signing age of 25 this season makes saying we have a pensioner signing policy very silly!
