[JonB]

dtp, on 26 January 2025 - 09:28 AM, said:

A couple of times I was expecting the ref to blow because Thompson had held the ball in his hands for what seemed an absolute age. Is there not a rule which limits this nowadays or is it just ignored by the officials?

Wasn?t as bad as their keeper did as the game went on with them winning.

[TJ Blue]

Thompson is a young keeper but for him to progress in the game, he has got to improve is distribution as at the moment it?s absolutely dire, surely they must work on it in training.

[JonB]

It doesn?t help that he is predominately left footed and we do pass it back to him sometimes not taking that into consideration.

[clarevoyant.]

Westbars Spireite, on 26 January 2025 - 09:34 AM, said:

It still exists but is seemingly ignored. I didn't think referees could pick and choose which laws/rules they implement but this appears to be one.

I get the impression that to achieve consistency the powers that be impose too many 'guidelines' on officials causing even more head scratching incidents with so many games on tv bringing in a larger audience to digest at leisure.

The time keeping variations, from, at the start of last season doing it right to what appears now to not bothering. Was the sending off farce one of the biggest p... takes ever seen at town. How long did it take the player to stroll round the pitch, blend in with the stewards (why are they allowed to play in that kit? knowing full well it will clash, it can only cause problems) have a chat with a sub, while everyone gets p'd off. Well managed ref!! The whole farce must have taken 4 minutes,add on 8 subs a collection of bookings on and off the pitch, plus pernickety time there must have been 10 minutes. As Bill Shankly (I think) once said "it only takes a second to score a goal".

While sh..housery teams can see they'll get away with it they will (not saying PV fall into this category, just the one incident).

The officials must know what's what, let them ref each game on its own merits and forget this chase for consistency and ignore the ignorance of pundits.

[dim view]

erniemossity, on 26 January 2025 - 09:50 AM, said:

Boot needs to start on Tuesday. I?ve lost patience with Thompson?.holds on to it far too long, and although Fadz back pass wasn?t the best, Thompson hesitated and gave up for a split second, otherwise he wouldn?t have needed to boot it out.

He's only 20. Huge prospect but still learning. Macfadzean passed the ball on to his right foot. That won't happen again. What there's no excuse for is nobody coming within yards of closing down the left back to get the ensuing cross in. And another problem, imo Oldaker should have put in much more of a last ditch block.

On the other hand, I think highlights show we actually played some very good stuff against a 10 man defence.

[Osborne again]

TJ Blue, on 26 January 2025 - 10:34 AM, said:

Thompson is a young keeper but for him to progress in the game, he has got to improve is distribution as at the moment it?s absolutely dire, surely they must work on it in training.

Distribution is the worst part of his game,he really does need help with it.

[HaslandBlue58]

Westbars Spireite, on 26 January 2025 - 09:34 AM, said:

It still exists but is seemingly ignored. I didn't think referees could pick and choose which laws/rules they implement but this appears to be one.

I think you will find that the majority of officials we have had the pleasure of observing are either following their own set of rules or being very selective of which to implement from the actual ones.

[azul]

Liked Mandy's views when asked about the differences (or lack of them) between L2 and the NL.

Little bit better in both boxes but otherwise no difference. Although that can occasionally be crucial the games can be every bit as scruffy and uninspiring.

The injuries, now the churn of players has put a real break on the season and although we are getting a few back I'm not sure they are the ones that are going to make a real difference.

[JonB]

clarevoyant., on 26 January 2025 - 11:10 AM, said:

I get the impression that to achieve consistency the powers that be impose too many 'guidelines' on officials causing even more head scratching incidents with so many games on tv bringing in a larger audience to digest at leisure.

The time keeping variations, from, at the start of last season doing it right to what appears now to not bothering. Was the sending off farce one of the biggest p... takes ever seen at town. How long did it take the player to stroll round the pitch, blend in with the stewards (why are they allowed to play in that kit? knowing full well it will clash, it can only cause problems) have a chat with a sub, while everyone gets p'd off. Well managed ref!! The whole farce must have taken 4 minutes,add on 8 subs a collection of bookings on and off the pitch, plus pernickety time there must have been 10 minutes. As Bill Shankly (I think) once said "it only takes a second to score a goal".

While sh..housery teams can see they'll get away with it they will (not saying PV fall into this category, just the one incident).

The officials must know what's what, let them ref each game on its own merits and forget this chase for consistency and ignore the ignorance of pundits.

Not sure how he only added one minute first half after three stoppages for players being down injured even if no treatment required. He then couldn?t wait to blow pretty much dead on 46 to stop us taking the corner.

[60s 70s Spireite]

JonB, on 26 January 2025 - 11:59 AM, said:

Not sure how he only added one minute first half after three stoppages for players being down injured even if no treatment required. He then couldn?t wait to blow pretty much dead on 46 to stop us taking the corner.

Mind we were in no hurry to take the corner that he did allow us to take. The clock was ticking down for all, including the players to see and we were undecided whether to take a short one or a long one in the box..

This post has been edited by 60s 70s Spireite: 26 January 2025 - 12:12 PM

[essexspireman]

clarevoyant., on 26 January 2025 - 11:10 AM, said:

I get the impression that to achieve consistency the powers that be impose too many 'guidelines' on officials causing even more head scratching incidents with so many games on tv bringing in a larger audience to digest at leisure.

The time keeping variations, from, at the start of last season doing it right to what appears now to not bothering. Was the sending off farce one of the biggest p... takes ever seen at town. How long did it take the player to stroll round the pitch, blend in with the stewards (why are they allowed to play in that kit? knowing full well it will clash, it can only cause problems) have a chat with a sub, while everyone gets p'd off. Well managed ref!! The whole farce must have taken 4 minutes,add on 8 subs a collection of bookings on and off the pitch, plus pernickety time there must have been 10 minutes. As Bill Shankly (I think) once said "it only takes a second to score a goal".

While sh..housery teams can see they'll get away with it they will (not saying PV fall into this category, just the one incident).

The officials must know what's what, let them ref each game on its own merits and forget this chase for consistency and ignore the ignorance of pundits.

The ref was awful, each set piece took an age to set up and allowing the sent off guy to take so long to walk round the pitch was ridiculous. One of their subs was warming up very close to our wide man (Colclough or Sparkes) in the second half - their kit was so in your face and even though the guy was wearing a bib,with a quick glance you could think our guy was being marked.

[rodney]

JonB, on 26 January 2025 - 11:59 AM, said:

Not sure how he only added one minute first half after three stoppages for players being down injured even if no treatment required. He then couldn?t wait to blow pretty much dead on 46 to stop us taking the corner.

He played well over a minute in the first half. We took that long on the first corner there was no time for the second.

The biggest mystery is only 4 mins for the second half. We wanted 3 mins on the sending off!!!

[clarevoyant.]

JonB, on 26 January 2025 - 11:59 AM, said:

Not sure how he only added one minute first half after three stoppages for players being down injured even if no treatment required. He then couldn?t wait to blow pretty much dead on 46 to stop us taking the corner.

It must be a conspiracy theory!!!

It happened at Bradford and Grimsby when we were in the ascendancy. Sods law

There must be a reason why they've reverted from adding the correct time to pulling a ridiculously low figure out of thin hair that everybody knows is wrong. The low figures at H/T sends out all the wrong messages.

[Tha Knows...]

azul, on 26 January 2025 - 11:49 AM, said:

Liked Mandy's views when asked about the differences (or lack of them) between L2 and the NL.

Little bit better in both boxes but otherwise no difference. Although that can occasionally be crucial the games can be every bit as scruffy and uninspiring.

The injuries, now the churn of players has put a real break on the season and although we are getting a few back I'm not sure they are the ones that are going to make a real difference.

We've improved in one box but become far weaker in the other unfortunately! Need Grigg back, never feel Madden is likely to score.

[SpireRam]

rodney, on 26 January 2025 - 12:17 PM, said:

He played well over a minute in the first half. We took that long on the first corner there was no time for the second.

The biggest mystery is only 4 mins for the second half. We wanted 3 mins on the sending off!!!

4 mins for the second half was a shambles. I was thinking 6 at the bare minimum. Not only did the red card itself take up time but it must have taken him 3 mins to walk around the pitch as you say. Then you?ve got the minute or so for general stoppages. And then 4 different stoppages for both teams to make subs.

Not that I?m dwelling on it at all?.

[clarevoyant.]

essexspireman, on 26 January 2025 - 12:16 PM, said:

The ref was awful, each set piece took an age to set up and allowing the sent off guy to take so long to walk round the pitch was ridiculous. One of their subs was warming up very close to our wide man (Colclough or Sparkes) in the second half - their kit was so in your face and even though the guy was wearing a bib,with a quick glance you could think our guy was being marked.

A quick glance is generally all a lino has to judge what could be a game changing decision. Ridiculous kit. It was suggested all be it after a few beers that PV fans history will dictate a good steward presence and will be sharing the same colour and Vale players would be used to it and maybe the opposition not so. The beer was on form!!

[Westbars Spireite]

rodney, on 26 January 2025 - 12:17 PM, said:

He played well over a minute in the first half. We took that long on the first corner there was no time for the second.

The biggest mystery is only 4 mins for the second half. We wanted 3 mins on the sending off!!!

I don't think we'd have scored again if we still playing now.

SpireRam, on 26 January 2025 - 12:31 PM, said:

4 mins for the second half was a shambles. I was thinking 6 at the bare minimum. Not only did the red card itself take up time but it must have taken him 3 mins to walk around the pitch as you say. Then you?ve got the minute or so for general stoppages. And then 4 different stoppages for both teams to make subs.

Not that I?m dwelling on it at all?.

Why did he walk around the pitch? Is there some rule that says the game can't restart until he's disappeared?

[FORZA AZZURRI]

SpireRam, on 26 January 2025 - 12:31 PM, said:

4 mins for the second half was a shambles. I was thinking 6 at the bare minimum. Not only did the red card itself take up time but it must have taken him 3 mins to walk around the pitch as you say. Then you?ve got the minute or so for general stoppages. And then 4 different stoppages for both teams to make subs.

Not that I?m dwelling on it at all?.

We played 7 mins injury time

[rodney]

Westbars Spireite, on 26 January 2025 - 12:47 PM, said:

I don't think we'd have scored again if we still playing now.



Why did he walk around the pitch? Is there some rule that says the game can't restart until he's disappeared?

Yes, for a red card he has to be out of sight. So no idea why the ref made he walk around the pitch. Total shambles

[calvin plummers socks]

Misnomer, on 26 January 2025 - 09:13 AM, said:

Is that the one where you studied with Gillian Mckeith....

Gillian McKeith?
The expert on nutrition or something?
Absolute charlatan