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#281 User is online   Cheshireblue 

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Posted 25 January 2025 - 09:26 PM

Donacien went of with a groin injury hope it's not serious ,
Think we need to burn a wagon load of sage to get rid of this bad luck we are having in the injuries
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Posted 25 January 2025 - 09:40 PM

View PostJonB, on 25 January 2025 - 07:59 PM, said:

Thompson seems to be always looking for a quick release but seems a bit risk averse to do it unless it?s definitely on. No point throwing it out just because our players are running forward, it needs to be the right option.


I understand that,but he hasn't got thirty seconds to make up his mind. Now and again, it's worth the risk to throw, or kick the ball longer to gain an advantage. I think most people noticed that Kyle Macfadzean didn't have any such reservations about hitting the longer ball, and he was accurate mostly too. The measured build up is how we play,but it's got to be worth the goalie picking out a winger moving into the final third.
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Posted 25 January 2025 - 10:13 PM

View PostFact Checker, on 25 January 2025 - 08:39 PM, said:

Patience is the word of the day for me. I would have loved everything to click immediately but in reality that was very unlikely given that 3 of our starting 11 have only trained a handful of times. It takes time to build patterns in training, and that was obvious today.

In reality, we are only 10pts off automatics with a game in hand, with us having played 3 of the 5 best teams in the division twice already.

Have patience my Spireite friends, I truly believe we have a special end to the season coming.

Patience is the word indeed. Start of season cookie spoke about the transitional period for new players. That period
Is still here.
Our reachable ambition is play offs. I?m happy with that
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Posted 25 January 2025 - 10:20 PM

View PostOsborne again, on 25 January 2025 - 09:40 PM, said:

I understand that,but he hasn't got thirty seconds to make up his mind. Now and again, it's worth the risk to throw, or kick the ball longer to gain an advantage. I think most people noticed that Kyle Macfadzean didn't have any such reservations about hitting the longer ball, and he was accurate mostly too. The measured build up is how we play,but it's got to be worth the goalie picking out a winger moving into the final third.


In Pepple we probably have a player that likes to chase the ball. One chance he may have in that respect is if our keeper releases the ball early into the channels whilst the opposition have players forward. Thirty seconds later is too late. Similarly, Oldaker seems to like to take 20 seconds or more dwelling on the ball before playing a telling back pass.

The lack of urgency we regularly show when we are in a losing position is what frustrates the crowd. The crowd needs something to cheer and they are hardly likely to get their voices behind negativity.

The general conversation at HT was about the fact that nobody could see where a goal was going to come from.
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Posted 25 January 2025 - 10:21 PM

View PostBald magician, on 25 January 2025 - 10:13 PM, said:

Patience is the word indeed. Start of season cookie spoke about the transitional period for new players. That period
Is still here.
Our reachable ambition is play offs. I?m happy with that

Yep. One aspect of that is that our goalkeeping department isn't as strong as last season.
Get it on, bang the gong , get it on
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Posted 25 January 2025 - 10:25 PM

View PostBald magician, on 25 January 2025 - 10:13 PM, said:

Patience is the word indeed. Start of season cookie spoke about the transitional period for new players. That period
Is still here.
Our reachable ambition is play offs. I?m happy with that


The football gods haven't been kind to us with all the injuries, and I'm pretty sure we'd be up there if it wasn't for the loss of those players, but I still have faith in the lads and Cookie, so playoffs fine, but I know the manager wants more.
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Posted 25 January 2025 - 10:27 PM

I would ask for detail but I don?t really care.

I always look to the bigger picture. It?s
Fine

View Postdim view, on 25 January 2025 - 10:21 PM, said:

Yep. One aspect of that is that our goalkeeping department isn't as strong as last season.

Ah just saw your first name
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Posted 25 January 2025 - 10:31 PM

View PostOsborne again, on 25 January 2025 - 09:40 PM, said:

I understand that,but he hasn't got thirty seconds to make up his mind. Now and again, it's worth the risk to throw, or kick the ball longer to gain an advantage. I think most people noticed that Kyle Macfadzean didn't have any such reservations about hitting the longer ball, and he was accurate mostly too. The measured build up is how we play,but it's got to be worth the goalie picking out a winger moving into the final third.

thompson missed at least 2 opportunities today to get us on the front foot, there were other ocassions where he simply had no one to play to and lumping it long would have been low percentage. i think another thing for me on keeper distribution is decision making, knowing when to go long and go into your back four... Last season when we played barnet they came to press so in the first half we went long, they dropped off and we started to play out from the back. I often feel that early in a game is not the best time to be playing our from the back as teams have that energy to press, today it backfired on us quickly. i'm not advocating boot it long, i'm saying to be smart about it and know when to play the right out ball.
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Posted 25 January 2025 - 10:33 PM

View Postdtp, on 25 January 2025 - 10:20 PM, said:

In Pepple we probably have a player that likes to chase the ball. One chance he may have in that respect is if our keeper releases the ball early into the channels whilst the opposition have players forward. Thirty seconds later is too late. Similarly, Oldaker seems to like to take 20 seconds or more dwelling on the ball before playing a telling back pass.

The lack of urgency we regularly show when we are in a losing position is what frustrates the crowd. The crowd needs something to cheer and they are hardly likely to get their voices behind negativity.

The general conversation at HT was about the fact that nobody could see where a goal was going to come from.


11 v 11 we'd have struggled to get a point
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Posted 25 January 2025 - 10:34 PM

View PostOsborne again, on 25 January 2025 - 10:25 PM, said:

The football gods haven't been kind to us with all the injuries, and I'm pretty sure we'd be up there if it wasn't for the loss of those players, but I still have faith in the lads and Cookie, so playoffs fine, but I know the manager wants more.


Ah yes the football gods. I remember that section of my degree- was in between osteoporosis and the complexities of the knee joint
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Posted 26 January 2025 - 08:37 AM

Looking at the longer highlights reminded me that Pepple, in particular, and others (Oldaker in the footage) struggled to keep their footing on our pitch.
Wrong studs or issues with our surface?
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Posted 26 January 2025 - 09:02 AM

View PostCheshireblue, on 25 January 2025 - 09:26 PM, said:

Donacien went of with a groin injury hope it's not serious ,
Think we need to burn a wagon load of sage to get rid of this bad luck we are having in the injuries

If that?s true that?s beyond bad luck
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Posted 26 January 2025 - 09:06 AM

View Post60s 70s Spireite, on 26 January 2025 - 08:37 AM, said:

Looking at the longer highlights reminded me that Pepple, in particular, and others (Oldaker in the footage) struggled to keep their footing on our pitch.
Wrong studs or issues with our surface?

Tbh it?s a good job Pepple slipped in the build up to our goal otherwise the ball wouldn?t have run on to their defender and Dobra.
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Posted 26 January 2025 - 09:13 AM

View Postcalvin plummers socks, on 25 January 2025 - 10:34 PM, said:

Ah yes the football gods. I remember that section of my degree- was in between osteoporosis and the complexities of the knee joint


Is that the one where you studied with Gillian Mckeith....
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Posted 26 January 2025 - 09:28 AM

View Postjack bauer, on 25 January 2025 - 10:31 PM, said:

thompson missed at least 2 opportunities today to get us on the front foot, there were other ocassions where he simply had no one to play to and lumping it long would have been low percentage. i think another thing for me on keeper distribution is decision making, knowing when to go long and go into your back four... Last season when we played barnet they came to press so in the first half we went long, they dropped off and we started to play out from the back. I often feel that early in a game is not the best time to be playing our from the back as teams have that energy to press, today it backfired on us quickly. i'm not advocating boot it long, i'm saying to be smart about it and know when to play the right out ball.


A couple of times I was expecting the ref to blow because Thompson had held the ball in his hands for what seemed an absolute age. Is there not a rule which limits this nowadays or is it just ignored by the officials?
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Posted 26 January 2025 - 09:34 AM

View Postdtp, on 26 January 2025 - 09:28 AM, said:

A couple of times I was expecting the ref to blow because Thompson had held the ball in his hands for what seemed an absolute age. Is there not a rule which limits this nowadays or is it just ignored by the officials?


It still exists but is seemingly ignored. I didn't think referees could pick and choose which laws/rules they implement but this appears to be one.
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Posted 26 January 2025 - 09:38 AM

View Postdtp, on 26 January 2025 - 09:28 AM, said:

A couple of times I was expecting the ref to blow because Thompson had held the ball in his hands for what seemed an absolute age. Is there not a rule which limits this nowadays or is it just ignored by the officials?
Law 12 allows a goalkeeper to control the ball with their hand(s) for no more than six seconds before releasing it into play. I also notice that a lot have their feet in the area but the ball is held in their hands outside the area when clearing it.
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Posted 26 January 2025 - 09:39 AM

View PostBald magician, on 26 January 2025 - 09:02 AM, said:

If that?s true that?s beyond bad luck

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Posted 26 January 2025 - 09:50 AM

Boot needs to start on Tuesday. I?ve lost patience with Thompson?.holds on to it far too long, and although Fadz back pass wasn?t the best, Thompson hesitated and gave up for a split second, otherwise he wouldn?t have needed to boot it out.

This post has been edited by erniemossity: 26 January 2025 - 09:51 AM

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Posted 26 January 2025 - 10:25 AM

View Postdtp, on 26 January 2025 - 09:28 AM, said:

A couple of times I was expecting the ref to blow because Thompson had held the ball in his hands for what seemed an absolute age. Is there not a rule which limits this nowadays or is it just ignored by the officials?

It's next season it comes into force
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