[Phil V 72]

calvin plummers socks, on 20 January 2025 - 02:43 PM, said:

Do you have a link? Would be interested to hear this

https://open.spotify...0QSqFmvvC8SKNNA

[Siberian Spireite]

azul, on 18 January 2025 - 07:58 PM, said:

I remember Cook saying Fulham were brilliant people to deal with. Reading between the lines I expect he meant they were essentially free with few strings attached. Of course that would never have been an issue because they were well worth their position in the starting eleven. I expect Metcalfe would have been similar as he was never a guaranteed starter and there never seemed any pressure for him to be so.

I recall a few matches where Metcalfe started despite his previous performances not necessarily having justified picking him over a permanent alternative, but In Cook We Trust.

[Spireite93]

As speculated elsewhere and based on signings made and predicted, you'd imagine it's as good as season over for Grigg, Gordon and Dunkley

[SpireRam]

Spireite93, on 20 January 2025 - 03:40 PM, said:

As speculated elsewhere and based on signings made and predicted, you'd imagine it's as good as season over for Grigg, Gordon and Dunkley

Grigg and Dunkley have hurt us massively in particular. Considering the injury to Dunkley has forced Naylor into CB as well - we?ve lost the entire spine of our team for over half a season. It?s impressive that we?ve remained competitive.

[Phil V 72]

Spireite93, on 20 January 2025 - 03:40 PM, said:

As speculated elsewhere and based on signings made and predicted, you'd imagine it's as good as season over for Grigg, Gordon and Dunkley

Possibly Araujo to go back as well?

[Sammy Spireite]

SpireRam, on 20 January 2025 - 04:01 PM, said:

Grigg and Dunkley have hurt us massively in particular. Considering the injury to Dunkley has forced Naylor into CB as well -

Most of games Dunkley started were at the side of Naylor, he didn't replace him at CH.

[dtp]

Spireite93, on 20 January 2025 - 03:40 PM, said:

As speculated elsewhere and based on signings made and predicted, you'd imagine it's as good as season over for Grigg, Gordon and Dunkley

Always thought so regarding Dunkley but very little has been said about Gordon. I do not even know the nature of his injury.

It has been mentioned on more than one occasion that Grigg could be out for a couple of months though.

Time will tell but Cook did refer to a couple of players being out for the season.

So, if Gordon is a long term injury then it seems we will be going with Sparkes and Horton for LB. However, we have signed Donacien and he can play right across the back as well but I suspect he is more as a RB where we also have Sheckleford. Daley-Campbell is coming back into training but I wonder if we will be looking to loan him out.

[SpireRam]

Sammy Spireite, on 20 January 2025 - 05:02 PM, said:

Most of games Dunkley started were at the side of Naylor, he didn't replace him at CH.

The point stands that we have essentially lost our spine this season. The spine Cook would have had in mind for this team. Dunkley?s injury prolonged Naylor?s spell there. The only reason Naylor was there was injuries?.

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[Sammy Spireite]

dtp, on 20 January 2025 - 05:08 PM, said:

Always thought so regarding Dunkley but very little has been said about Gordon. I do not even know the nature of his injury.

It has been mentioned on more than one occasion that Grigg could be out for a couple of months though.

Time will tell but Cook did refer to a couple of players being out for the season.

So, if Gordon is a long term injury then it seems we will be going with Sparkes and Horton for LB. However, we have signed Donacien and he can play right across the back as well but I suspect he is more as a RB where we also have Sheckleford. Daley-Campbell is coming back into training but I wonder if we will be looking to loan him out.

I can see us ending the window and submitting a reduced squad list leaving one or two spaces free for wheoever comes back from injury soonest (with Grigg/Williams/Dunkley left off) and is needed for the first team based on current injuries/suspensions etc.

You'd imagine Akinola/Hobson/Horton/Palmer might get left off the squad list and made available for loan.

[plannerj]

Sammy Spireite, on 20 January 2025 - 05:15 PM, said:

I can see us ending the window and submitting a reduced squad list leaving one or two spaces free for wheoever comes back from injury soonest (with Grigg/Williams/Dunkley left off) and is needed for the first team based on current injuries/suspensions etc.

You'd imagine Akinola/Hobson/Horton/Palmer might get left off the squad list and made available for loan.

Why on earth will Hobson be left off the squad list? It will not happen because has proved his usefulness in recent weeks.

[Bonnyman]

plannerj, on 20 January 2025 - 05:37 PM, said:

Why on earth will Hobson be left off the squad list? It will not happen because has proved his usefulness in recent weeks.

Agree, Hobson and Horton both been decent

[calvin plummers socks]

Phil V 72, on 20 January 2025 - 02:11 PM, said:

There was an interesting discussion on Phil Tooleys podcast about the worries Premier League managers have about the gulf in physical requirements between U21/23 squads and senior football.

Really disappointed to hear the negative comments about the physio / sports science dept. Whilst at the same time admitting they have no idea what has caused the injuries.
No mention of the actual training by coaches/Cookie.

Can?t remember who was with Phil T on it but not a very good debate when it came to the subject. (What?s a metatarsal)?? Oh dear

[Lincs Spireite]

calvin plummers socks, on 20 January 2025 - 06:28 PM, said:

Really disappointed to hear the negative comments about the physio / sports science dept. Whilst at the same time admitting they have no idea what has caused the injuries.
No mention of the actual training by coaches/Cookie.

Can?t remember who was with Phil T on it but not a very good debate when it came to the subject. (What?s a metatarsal)?? Oh dear

Get Shinner back

[DIFH]

Bonnyman, on 20 January 2025 - 05:44 PM, said:

Agree, Hobson and Horton both been decent

Spot on coach.

[Paul Fisher]

calvin plummers socks, on 20 January 2025 - 06:28 PM, said:

Really disappointed to hear the negative comments about the physio / sports science dept. Whilst at the same time admitting they have no idea what has caused the injuries.
No mention of the actual training by coaches/Cookie.

Can?t remember who was with Phil T on it but not a very good debate when it came to the subject. (What?s a metatarsal)?? Oh dear

Disappointed in the comments themselves or the actual sports science department?

If you listen carefully, it's a plea for help for the department, which has been overloaded this season.

As you well know Mike, sports science and recruitment are as equal to any managerial appointment in terms of strategic value.

Yeah, no-one had heard of a metatarsel till Beckham had one, that's got to be true.

Have you heard about the time four podcasters gave Cookie a sheet of training schedule for the squad for the week, no? neither have I?
Of course we have zero knowledge of what the training schedule is on a week by week basis and by that notion, it's pure guesswork.

[calvin plummers socks]

Paul Fisher, on 20 January 2025 - 10:05 PM, said:

Disappointed in the comments themselves or the actual sports science department?

If you listen carefully, it's a plea for help for the department, which has been overloaded this season.

As you well know Mike, sports science and recruitment are as equal to any managerial appointment in terms of strategic value.

Yeah, no-one had heard of a metatarsel till Beckham had one, that's got to be true.

Have you heard about the time four podcasters gave Cookie a sheet of training schedule for the squad for the week, no? neither have I?
Of course we have zero knowledge of what the training schedule is on a week by week basis and by that notion, it's pure guesswork.

Disappointed about the comments about the fizzer etc.
I?m
Pretty sure the sports med side would have insisted Berry for example should not play with any semblance of a hamstring strain.

[Paul Fisher]

calvin plummers socks, on 20 January 2025 - 10:25 PM, said:

Disappointed about the comments about the fizzer etc.
I?m
Pretty sure the sports med side would have insisted Berry for example should not play with any semblance of a hamstring strain.

I don't think anyone complains about the physiotherapist. In fact, I said that the medical department needs help, I understand the club are actively seeking further help for the medical department in terms of staffing, which is a good sign.

I doubt anyone would have suggested Berry takes the field with a hamstring injury.

[Search & Destroy]

Didn?t JR face the same ridiculous suggestions?


Notably George Carline at Wrexham being told to play on with a shattered kneecap

This post has been edited by Search & Destroy: 21 January 2025 - 07:09 AM

[azul]

Search & Destroy, on 21 January 2025 - 07:06 AM, said:

Didn?t JR face the same ridiculous suggestions?

Notably George Carline at Wrexham being told to play on with a shattered kneecap

Extract from an article about George Carline's wider situation (written by Paul Fisher I think)

On October 5 last year, Chesterfield met Wrexham in a clash of clubs desperate to join the EFL and a players studs went into Carline's knee

I tried to play through it says Carline. In the second half, when I was on my standing foot to volley, my leg just gave way. The bone pulled my kneecap apart into two pieces.

The top half of Carline kneecap was sucked up into his thigh muscles. The surgeon who operated on him said it was an injury he had only seen previously in car-crash victims.

Sounds like questions should have been asked of someone

[spireitetoo]

azul, on 21 January 2025 - 08:42 AM, said:

Extract from an article about George Carline's wider situation (written by Paul Fisher I think)

On October 5 last year, Chesterfield met Wrexham in a clash of clubs desperate to join the EFL and a players studs went into Carline's knee

I tried to play through it says Carline. In the second half, when I was on my standing foot to volley, my leg just gave way. The bone pulled my kneecap apart into two pieces.

The top half of Carline kneecap was sucked up into his thigh muscles. The surgeon who operated on him said it was an injury he had only seen previously in car-crash victims.

Sounds like questions should have been asked of someone

Was it his own choice to play on?? Was he advised not to carry on but chose to ignore that??

At that time it was a big game for both teams, so maybe he wanted to carry on . ??