[Waller is my hero]

Genuinely, everyone have a right to an opinion with regards to football?. However?before your negative emotions overwhelm you & post the ridiculous drivel after we don?t win?just take a step back & think?..who is this negatively impacting?
Don?t you think people associated with the club we love don?t read comments on here?
Think about how the comments you make would make you think!?
You slate a manager that is the most successful manager we have had, have respect for people?s thoughts

This post has been edited by Waller is my hero: 04 December 2024 - 03:26 AM

[Exharboroughspireite]

Waller is my hero, on 04 December 2024 - 03:25 AM, said:

Genuinely, everyone have a right to an opinion with regards to football?. However?before your negative emotions overwhelm you & post the ridiculous drivel after we don?t win?just take a step back & think?..who is this negatively impacting?
Don?t you think people associated with the club we love don?t read comments on here?
Think about how the comments you make would make you think!?
You slate a manager that is the most successful manager we have had, have respect for people?s thoughts

😂

[Walton Spireite]

It's a results business. We are on a bad run therefore there will be criticism. Just ask Pep.Yes we have been very unlucky with injuries however I am very unhappy about the summer recruitment.

[Bluekent]

Walton Spireite, on 04 December 2024 - 06:32 AM, said:

It's a results business. We are on a bad run therefore there will be criticism. Just ask Pep.Yes we have been very unlucky with injuries however I am very unhappy about the summer recruitment.

You criticise when we are on a good run you melon 😂 having said that you clearly enjoy trolling this board but I don?t think you mean it in a nasty way but there are some posters who frequent this board who genuinely have some personal issues with the club/paul cook. It?s a bizarre attitude to have. One poster claiming Paul cooks level is national league is quite clearly wrong on every level considering what he?s achieved at the current level we find ourselves and the level above. Each to their own tho I guess. Some people are just thick 🤷🏽‍♂️

[CFC91]

Walton Spireite, on 04 December 2024 - 06:32 AM, said:

It's a results business. We are on a bad run therefore there will be criticism. Just ask Pep.Yes we have been very unlucky with injuries however I am very unhappy about the summer recruitment.

Genuine question beyond all of the bluff and bluster as I?m led to believe you are relatively normal in person?would you take a boring midtable finish this season, with the view of clearing the decks and the deadwood in the summer to have a proper run at it next year?

I think that?s a perfectly rational approach to take so our current position is absolutely fine in my eyes. I do agree the budget hasn?t been spent the best but over a prolonged period of time we know Cook gets more right than he does wrong

[Lincs Spireite]

CFC91, on 04 December 2024 - 07:15 AM, said:

Genuine question beyond all of the bluff and bluster as I?m led to believe you are relatively normal in person?would you take a boring midtable finish this season, with the view of clearing the decks and the deadwood in the summer to have a proper run at it next year?

I think that?s a perfectly rational approach to take so our current position is absolutely fine in my eyes. I do agree the budget hasn?t been spent the best but over a prolonged period of time we know Cook gets more right than he does wrong

Agree 100% with this. Mid table would be a good result this season. Made a few mistakes recruitment wise but we can push on next season after clearing out the dead wood.

[Search & Destroy]

I think I?d take it but would be a massive underachievement

[CFC91]

Search & Destroy, on 04 December 2024 - 07:23 AM, said:

I think I?d take it but would be a massive underachievement

Based on the assumption our budget is top 5/6 in the league I agree. Based on the fact we are a newly promoted side and we clearly have 5/6 players who we are keen to move on but can?t for whatever reason, who are now having to play due to injuries, I would say I?d take it

I do expect January to be busy though, especially if we can hang in and around the play offs over the next 4 games

[Burgerman]

Waller is my hero, on 04 December 2024 - 03:25 AM, said:

Genuinely, everyone have a right to an opinion with regards to football?. However?before your negative emotions overwhelm you & post the ridiculous drivel after we don?t win?just take a step back & think?..who is this negatively impacting?
Don?t you think people associated with the club we love don?t read comments on here?
Think about how the comments you make would make you think!?
You slate a manager that is the most successful manager we have had, have respect for people?s thoughts

Whenever we lose we see the wave of negativity, generally from the same people so is it really a surprise when they kick off? Paul Cook will fall from hero to zero on the back of a couple of results and I am sure he knows that, he has spoken about the treatment of managers on numerous occasions.

It's down to people's personality and character as to how they react, to some it seems a run of bad results is a disaster, the only way out they see is to ship out all the players and staff and start again.

The response to these people is again, the same every time we lose, the same people calling them out which fuels the fire even more.

They will never, ever give up on their negativity, they thrive on it so why make an issue out of it. Its not like its Pep Guardiola or Arne Slot coming on here giving Paul Cook and the players grief, its just a hand full of people who are more than likely negative people anyway. The best thing to do is let them alone to discuss poor results between themselves.

Personally, I expect our current form to continue until we get injured players back and even then, I wont be expecting to win every game. I thought the 10 left on the pitch last night put a shift in and worked hard, just what travelling fans deserve.

It took Paul Cook a couple of seasons to build a team capable of getting us out of the National League, I expect about the same for League Two.

[Misnomer]

Burgerman, on 04 December 2024 - 08:48 AM, said:

Whenever we lose we see the wave of negativity, generally from the same people so is it really a surprise when they kick off? Paul Cook will fall from hero to zero on the back of a couple of results and I am sure he knows that, he has spoken about the treatment of managers on numerous occasions.

It's down to people's personality and character as to how they react, to some it seems a run of bad results is a disaster, the only way out they see is to ship out all the players and staff and start again.

The response to these people is again, the same every time we lose, the same people calling them out which fuels the fire even more.

They will never, ever give up on their negativity, they thrive on it so why make an issue out of it. Its not like its Pep Guardiola or Arne Slot coming on here giving Paul Cook and the players grief, its just a hand full of people who are more than likely negative people anyway. The best thing to do is let them alone to discuss poor results between themselves.

Personally, I expect our current form to continue until we get injured players back and even then, I wont be expecting to win every game. I thought the 10 left on the pitch last night put a shift in and worked hard, just what travelling fans deserve.

It took Paul Cook a couple of seasons to build a team capable of getting us out of the National League, I expect about the same for League Two.

That's a good post, Mark.

However, whilst some people might be naturally negative (or just so desperate for us to do well), people have a right to express their opinion.

Players come and go, likewise managers; fans don't. And when the ship was sinking, all those ex players and managers were nowhere to be seen (with the odd exception). Fans are heavily invested in our club; financially and emotionally, some physically.

Some players and managers have an affinity with the club and we have great affection and admiration for them; Paul Cook is one of them, but that shouldn't mean he's immune from analysis.

But, if anyone does express an opinion about him or his tactics, the usual response is, "yeah, because you've won several league titles...blah blah blah", meaning your (their) comment is not worth considering.

Yet, it's the same people trotting out that line, who are the ones continually slating the likes of, for example, Caldwell. All of a sudden, their opinions matter and, are of course, of value. Some people seem to take great pleasure in slagging of Caldwell. Obviously, he got it more wrong than right with us, but he's doing ok now. Cook failed at Ipswich and the fans don't hold him in any regard whatsoever.

What do any of us know about the complexities of football management.

[Goku]

Burgerman, on 04 December 2024 - 08:48 AM, said:

Whenever we lose we see the wave of negativity, generally from the same people so is it really a surprise when they kick off? Paul Cook will fall from hero to zero on the back of a couple of results and I am sure he knows that, he has spoken about the treatment of managers on numerous occasions.

It's down to people's personality and character as to how they react, to some it seems a run of bad results is a disaster, the only way out they see is to ship out all the players and staff and start again.

The response to these people is again, the same every time we lose, the same people calling them out which fuels the fire even more.

They will never, ever give up on their negativity, they thrive on it so why make an issue out of it. Its not like its Pep Guardiola or Arne Slot coming on here giving Paul Cook and the players grief, its just a hand full of people who are more than likely negative people anyway. The best thing to do is let them alone to discuss poor results between themselves.

Personally, I expect our current form to continue until we get injured players back and even then, I wont be expecting to win every game. I thought the 10 left on the pitch last night put a shift in and worked hard, just what travelling fans deserve.

It took Paul Cook a couple of seasons to build a team capable of getting us out of the National League, I expect about the same for League Two.

Credit where credit?s due MJ, that?s a fine post.

[warfey is a spireite]

Waller is my hero, on 04 December 2024 - 03:25 AM, said:

Genuinely, everyone have a right to an opinion with regards to football?. However?before your negative emotions overwhelm you & post the ridiculous drivel after we don?t win?just take a step back & think?..who is this negatively impacting?
Don?t you think people associated with the club we love don?t read comments on here?
Think about how the comments you make would make you think!?
You slate a manager that is the most successful manager we have had, have respect for people?s thoughts

Like you have respect for my thoughts, every time I post,to try to make yourself look good ,message ******

[azul]

Looks like both the team and the supporters need to adopt a siege/bunker mentality to get through the next few weeks

Now who is going to volunteer to be in the forward bunker with Walton, Cum, Bread, S&d, Gordon, Warfey............?

[Goku]

azul, on 04 December 2024 - 10:29 AM, said:

Looks like both the team and the supporters need to adopt a siege/bunker mentality to get through the next few weeks

Now who is going to volunteer to be in the forward bunker with Walton, Cum, Bread, S&d, Gordon, Warfey............?

Worst gangbang ever

[Brookie]

Best way is to hide the posts from the regular negative posters then you don?t see the drivel they write

[Johnnyspireite7]

Brookie, on 04 December 2024 - 12:42 PM, said:

Best way is to hide the posts from the regular negative posters then you don?t see the drivel they write

That?s ok until someone quotes what they?ve let dribble out of their tiny minds.

[Blue5]

Waller is my hero, on 04 December 2024 - 03:25 AM, said:

Genuinely, everyone have a right to an opinion with regards to football?. However?before your negative emotions overwhelm you & post the ridiculous drivel after we don?t win?just take a step back & think?..who is this negatively impacting?
Don?t you think people associated with the club we love don?t read comments on here?
Think about how the comments you make would make you think!?
You slate a manager that is the most successful manager we have had, have respect for people?s thoughts

I would like to think that the majority of us, regardless of our backgrounds and our views can have a sensible debate concerning any given subject. However, it's been clear to me for some time now, that there is a growing issue concerning some of the content on Bob's Board. In part, that's because some of the more prominent and sensible contributors are posting less frequently, but more so because that void has been filled by wind-up merchants, people who are unable to express their emotions in an acceptable manner, and there are one or two who are obviously up to no good, don't support our club and are here solely to cause unrest.

For example (this is supposedly one of our own fans commenting on Dobra, a player who made 43 appearances last season, scored 10 goals in a championship winning side, not to mention his 18 appearances and 3 goals this season in a side currently ninth in the division and five points off an automatic promotion spot):

https://www.thecfss....6

https://www.thecfss....dpost&p=1856921

Here's another one, talking about one of our greatest managers, https://www.thecfss....dpost&p=1660656


Wading through questionable and unacceptable tripe like this will be the sole reason why many of the regulars are sadly giving it a miss these days.

[stainlessstephen]

I've moved on since last night, yes it was a painful watch, but roll on the Tranmere game.

[azul]

Blue5, on 04 December 2024 - 01:41 PM, said:

I would like to think that the majority of us, regardless of our backgrounds and our views can have a sensible debate concerning any given subject. However, it's been clear to me for some time now, that there is a growing issue concerning some of the content on Bob's Board. In part, that's because some of the more prominent and sensible contributors are posting less frequently, but more so because that void has been filled by wind-up merchants, people who are unable to express their emotions in an acceptable manner, and there are one or two who are obviously up to no good, don't support our club and are here solely to cause unrest.

For example (this is supposedly one of our own fans commenting on Dobra, a player who made 43 appearances last season, scored 10 goals in a championship winning side, not to mention his 18 appearances and 3 goals this season in a side currently ninth in the division and five points off an automatic promotion spot):

https://www.thecfss....6

https://www.thecfss....dpost&p=1856921

Here's another one, talking about one of our greatest managers, https://www.thecfss....dpost&p=1660656


Wading through questionable and unacceptable tripe like this will be the sole reason why many of the regulars are sadly giving it a miss these days.

repeat

This post has been edited by azul: 04 December 2024 - 02:23 PM

[azul]

Blue5, on 04 December 2024 - 01:41 PM, said:

I would like to think that the majority of us, regardless of our backgrounds and our views can have a sensible debate concerning any given subject. However, it's been clear to me for some time now, that there is a growing issue concerning some of the content on Bob's Board. In part, that's because some of the more prominent and sensible contributors are posting less frequently, but more so because that void has been filled by wind-up merchants, people who are unable to express their emotions in an acceptable manner, and there are one or two who are obviously up to no good, don't support our club and are here solely to cause unrest.

For example (this is supposedly one of our own fans commenting on Dobra, a player who made 43 appearances last season, scored 10 goals in a championship winning side, not to mention his 18 appearances and 3 goals this season in a side currently ninth in the division and five points off an automatic promotion spot):

https://www.thecfss....6

https://www.thecfss....dpost&p=1856921

Here's another one, talking about one of our greatest managers, https://www.thecfss....dpost&p=1660656


Wading through questionable and unacceptable tripe like this will be the sole reason why many of the regulars are sadly giving it a miss these days.

Interesting I thought the same about the two you highlighted (Bread and Cum) especially the former. They aren't natural comments even for the most cynical, jaundiced or pessimistic supporters.

However it is also hard to believe they are supporters of another team when they are on here during match days when their team is playing.

On your general point I also think it inhibits constructive criticism as those that attempt it get tarred with the same brush as those who are out to cause dissent.