[fishini]

 Search & Destroy, on 11 December 2024 - 10:55 PM, said:

It?s sickening

How did the school not raise the alarm?

Police, social services, school should all shoulder the blame and prosecutions should follow

As someone who has fostered and adopted abused children I know how difficult it is for the social services to circumnavigate the rules I also know how good these abusive parents are at hiding the abuse. SS don't even have the right to enter homes. The answer is to give the SS the powers to do what they need to do. Screw the rights of the parents. That said some of these cases are down to poor social workers, some are down to them not being listened to. The problem is way above the social workers and should be laid at the door of senior management and the rules. You also have to factor in how Thier numbers have been cut over the years

[Blue roan lily]

 spireitetoo, on 12 December 2024 - 10:39 AM, said:

This poor child knew nothing but pain from beatings her entire life, and from both parents, let's hope the inmates of whichever prison these scumbags get sent to, have a cricket bat available to them..

Here Here

[dim view]

 fishini, on 12 December 2024 - 01:11 PM, said:

As someone who has fostered and adopted abused children I know how difficult it is for the social services to circumnavigate the rules I also know how good these abusive parents are at hiding the abuse. SS don't even have the right to enter homes. The answer is to give the SS the powers to do what they need to do. Screw the rights of the parents. That said some of these cases are down to poor social workers, some are down to them not being listened to. The problem is way above the social workers and should be laid at the door of senior management and the rules. You also have to factor in how Thier numbers have been cut over the years

In this case the parents were allowed to switch the education of the child to home based, even though she was presenting at school with bruising. It's just scandalous and heart breaking. The answer is to put professionals back into SS, not wasters.

[dart in the crossbar]

 dim view, on 12 December 2024 - 07:32 PM, said:

In this case the parents were allowed to switch the education of the child to home based, even though she was presenting at school with bruising. It's just scandalous and heart breaking. The answer is to put professionals back into SS, not wasters.

This tragedy is awful beyond words. Horrific.

Rachel De Souza (Children's Commissioner) spoke briefly about it to the media today.

You are correct regarding the switch. De Souza said that she has asked several government Education Secretaries to put an end to the switch to home schooling of vulnerable children in such circumstance; and they haven't done it.

There is a very old saying. 'If you think you can; you're right and... If you think you can't; you're right'. It's time that those who carry the highest responsibility should JFDI.

Same can be said of information sharing about children between the different agencies using the unique NHS numbers for children. JFDI.

De Souza shouldn't need to name and shame those with the power in national Government to legislate for the rapid changes that are clearly needed; but she may have to. The media have a role too.

[fishini]

 dim view, on 12 December 2024 - 07:32 PM, said:

In this case the parents were allowed to switch the education of the child to home based, even though she was presenting at school with bruising. It's just scandalous and heart breaking. The answer is to put professionals back into SS, not wasters.

A while ago we stopped fostering after many years. However we have been asked to care for a child removed from a abusive home. We refused at first but the SW said it would have to go back home because there is nowhere to place it. So we took it on short term. Foster carers are at an all time low, child care homes are almost none existent. Basically there is no where to place them. So when people criticise SWs maybe they could become foster carers and care for these children. Just a thought or maybe it's easier to take the narrow view and hope someone else takes up the mantle

[calvin plummers socks]

 fishini, on 16 December 2024 - 11:20 AM, said:

A while ago we stopped fostering after many years. However we have been asked to care for a child removed from a abusive home. We refused at first but the SW said it would have to go back home because there is nowhere to place it. So we took it on short term. Foster carers are at an all time low, child care homes are almost none existent. Basically there is no where to place them. So when people criticise SWs maybe they could become foster carers and care for these children. Just a thought or maybe it's easier to take the narrow view and hope someone else takes up the mantle

Thank you for your service
It?s amazing to do that

[Painted Wagon]

 calvin plummers socks, on 16 December 2024 - 12:52 PM, said:

Thank you for your service
It?s amazing to do that

Hear hear

[dart in the crossbar]

 dart in the crossbar, on 12 December 2024 - 09:32 PM, said:

This tragedy is awful beyond words. Horrific.

Rachel De Souza (Children's Commissioner) spoke briefly about it to the media today.

You are correct regarding the switch. De Souza said that she has asked several government Education Secretaries to put an end to the switch to home schooling of vulnerable children in such circumstance; and they haven't done it.

There is a very old saying. 'If you think you can; you're right and... If you think you can't; you're right'. It's time that those who carry the highest responsibility should JFDI.

Same can be said of information sharing about children between the different agencies using the unique NHS numbers for children. JFDI.

De Souza shouldn't need to name and shame those with the power in national Government to legislate for the rapid changes that are clearly needed; but she may have to. The media have a role too.

Looks like the new government will be taking action today to sort both of these issues. Hopefully with immediate implementation.

In other news. Whilst the new government take action to try to keep kids safe, no doubt we'll quickly get back to talking about how great Johnson and his mates were, whether people with a Middle Eastern appearance should be allowed to live in houses in the UK and making up some clever names for Starmer and Labour.

[dim view]

 fishini, on 16 December 2024 - 11:20 AM, said:

A while ago we stopped fostering after many years. However we have been asked to care for a child removed from a abusive home. We refused at first but the SW said it would have to go back home because there is nowhere to place it. So we took it on short term. Foster carers are at an all time low, child care homes are almost none existent. Basically there is no where to place them. So when people criticise SWs maybe they could become foster carers and care for these children. Just a thought or maybe it's easier to take the narrow view and hope someone else takes up the mantle

Why did you refuse?

[fishini]

 dim view, on 17 December 2024 - 11:13 AM, said:

Why did you refuse?

Because we are 66 years old now and have done it for 30+ years.

[oldgoat]

 fishini, on 16 December 2024 - 11:20 AM, said:

A while ago we stopped fostering after many years. However we have been asked to care for a child removed from a abusive home. We refused at first but the SW said it would have to go back home because there is nowhere to place it. So we took it on short term. Foster carers are at an all time low, child care homes are almost none existent. Basically there is no where to place them. So when people criticise SWs maybe they could become foster carers and care for these children. Just a thought or maybe it's easier to take the narrow view and hope someone else takes up the mantle

I thought there was very good money in foster care , one of our neighbours had a couple of foster kids and used to ignore or shout at them while boozing and smoking in the garden , this carried on for some years with good old social care ignoring concerns voiced repeatedly

[fishini]

 oldgoat, on 17 December 2024 - 06:10 PM, said:

I thought there was very good money in foster care , one of our neighbours had a couple of foster kids and used to ignore or shout at them while boozing and smoking in the garden , this carried on for some years with good old social care ignoring concerns voiced repeatedly

Firstly don't think find out the facts. I suppose you are going to say we are all like the few bad ones. What's more if the money is so good, the work is a doddle and the children are little angels who never cause any problems, then you have to wonder why ignorant people like you have never done it yourself. Probably you are just not up to the challenge.

This post has been edited by fishini: 17 December 2024 - 07:48 PM

[oldgoat]

Nice considered reply fish especially as I wasn't criticising you .
I was making a point that some people do this an easy source of income and as long as social care are so busy / don't care , as long as they can place problem kids , with folks who dont care , unlike you do and just do it for the money , will continue letting kids down

[fishini]

oldgoat, on 18 December 2024 - 04:31 PM, said:

Nice considered reply fish especially as I wasn't criticising you .
I was making a point that some people do this an easy source of income and as long as social care are so busy / don't care , as long as they can place problem kids , with folks who dont care , unlike you do and just do it for the money , will continue letting kids down

As a foster parent you are responsible for many other things than just putting a roof over their heads and feeding them. The number of meetings you have to go to concerning the children can sometimes be bewildering. Then there is the transition to adoption. Parental visits. The list goes on. You do get paid as you should. Pay is on a sliding scale with teens attracting the most and babies the least. The money paid is taxable and a tiny percentage of the cost of council care. The savings to the taxpayer of foster carers, carers within the home and adopters is estimated to be between ?7 & ?8 billion. They are all good value for money

[spireitetoo]

Her dad fighting for his life in hospital after having his neck slashed

Hope they just pull the plug ..

[Search & Destroy]

 spireitetoo, on 02 January 2025 - 10:36 PM, said:

Her dad fighting for his life in hospital after having his neck slashed

Hope they just pull the plug ..

No, he?s only been inside a few weeks

His death can?t be an escape

He should live in constant fear of torture and torment for the rest of his life

[Search & Destroy]

Bloke who did it was just as bad

Steve Sansom is facing a life sentence for admitting the murder of Sarah Mayhew and cutting up her body with power tools last March.

Sansom, 46, who also killed a taxi driver when he was 19, is thought to be the inmate that attacked Urfan Sharif with a jagged tuna can lid on New Year?s Day.

Sources told the Sun that Sansom forced Sharif, 43, into a cell with the help of another inmate, and slashed his neck open in a frenzied attack.

[Westbars Spireite]

He's a particularly vile individual.

[Painted Wagon]

 Westbars Spireite, on 06 January 2025 - 07:24 AM, said:

He's a particularly vile individual.

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