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Posted 15 November 2024 - 01:21 PM

Is he one of players who is referred to as ?levels?

I don?t think so, consistently one of our better performers for years, absolutely gives his all

Seeing him denied opportunities is perplexing
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Posted 15 November 2024 - 01:24 PM

I see him as a more central player , getting destroyed this season imo, never been a right back he has no explosive pace

Being destroyed I mean in confidence, stop playing him right back, watch a video of his performance in the play off final he was the best man on the pitch central

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Posted 15 November 2024 - 03:26 PM

i don't think there is a case of saying there is any "treatment to mandeville", we started the season with tanton as 1st choice RB, he has struggled to stay match fit, VDC likewise and shecks not available at all, so at times mandy has been filling a role, i get the feeling mandy is the sort of lad who will do his bit for the team. i do agree that he is much better further forward, anyone there on tuesday would have seen than in great detail, his link up play when he moved forward towards the last part of the game was excellent.
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Posted 15 November 2024 - 04:26 PM

View PostSearch & Destroy, on 15 November 2024 - 01:21 PM, said:

Is he one of players who is referred to as ?levels?

I don?t think so, consistently one of our better performers for years, absolutely gives his all

Seeing him denied opportunities is perplexing

This post is perplexing. You start a thread asking a question, that nobody would associate with Mandeville. Than go on to answer your own question with what we all knew in the first place.
Oh and he's not denied opportunities, he's playing regularly and his pitch time is managed, like everyone else, to ensure he stays fresh for the whole season.
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Posted 15 November 2024 - 05:12 PM

View Postborn in 1866, on 15 November 2024 - 04:26 PM, said:

This post is perplexing. You start a thread asking a question, that nobody would associate with Mandeville. Than go on to answer your own question with what we all knew in the first place.
Oh and he's not denied opportunities, he's playing regularly and his pitch time is managed, like everyone else, to ensure he stays fresh for the whole season.



Mmm, played 90 mins 4 times

Doncaster 0-3
Bromley 2-2
Notts County 2-2
Morecambe 2-5


Played less than 45 minutes 5 times

Example 16 minutes last week


600 minutes in the league this season
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Posted 15 November 2024 - 05:26 PM

Problem is that we have an abundance of ?flair? players. At the moment mandarkay has the right hand side nailed on and rightly so. I can?t see cook playing him centrally. He certainly isn?t a right back but is taking one for the team. With mandarkay possibility being recalled in janaury maybe we will see more game time as the season progresses. He has big shoes to fill though as mandarkay is a fantastic player
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Posted 15 November 2024 - 05:29 PM

View PostExharboroughspireite, on 15 November 2024 - 05:26 PM, said:

Problem is that we have an abundance of ?flair? players. At the moment mandarkay has the right hand side nailed on and rightly so. I can?t see cook playing him centrally. He certainly isn?t a right back but is taking one for the team. With mandarkay possibility being recalled in janaury maybe we will see more game time as the season progresses. He has big shoes to fill though as mandarkay is a fantastic player

He?s an option to play central of the attacking three but I?m not convinced by this theory about him as one of the deeper two central midfielders.
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Posted 15 November 2024 - 05:33 PM

View PostSearch & Destroy, on 15 November 2024 - 05:12 PM, said:

Mmm, played 90 mins 4 times

Doncaster 0-3
Bromley 2-2
Notts County 2-2
Morecambe 2-5


Played less than 45 minutes 5 times

Example 16 minutes last week


600 minutes in the league this season


How many of the 15 games was Mandy unavailable for?
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Posted 15 November 2024 - 05:46 PM

So Liam Mandeville's become the latest vehicle by which the Rowe fanboy's sniping at our club, has he?

The same sullen character who recently inferred it's somehow failing to address the "devastating" loss of three players.

Despite being forced to admit ones "not ours", another's "always injured" whilst the third's only an "impact sub".

Liam Mandeville's a hugely likeable lad, able to perform well in a variety of rolls. However the squad's evolving around him meaning there're superior options in each.

Chesterfield FC is progressing; sadly at least one person can't seem to celebrate that fact...
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Posted 15 November 2024 - 06:00 PM

View PostJonB, on 15 November 2024 - 05:29 PM, said:

He?s an option to play central of the attacking three but I?m not convinced by this theory about him as one of the deeper two central midfielders.


Yep, one of those ideas which sounds quite good but probably wouldn?t translate well.

Mandeville is battling it out with Markanday for the AMR position and Markanday is just better unfortunately. He?s doing a solid enough job at RB when needed. It?s a long season, I?m sure he?ll get more minutes.
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Posted 15 November 2024 - 06:52 PM

View PostBonnyman, on 15 November 2024 - 01:24 PM, said:

I see him as a more central player , getting destroyed this season imo, never been a right back he has no explosive pace

Being destroyed I mean in confidence, stop playing him right back, watch a video of his performance in the play off final he was the best man on the pitch central

Yep, certainly, I've whinged about his omission based on Dobra having, imo, a disappointing spell. Nowt to do with Markanday.
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Posted 15 November 2024 - 07:47 PM

View PostThe Earl of Chesterfield, on 15 November 2024 - 05:46 PM, said:

Liam Mandeville's a hugely likeable lad, able to perform well in a variety of rolls. However the squad's evolving around him meaning there're superior options in each.

Controversial, Chris.

Since Paul Cook walked through the door, Mandy has been Mr. Consistent with an engine like the Energizer Bunny. We've not really been consistent so far this year and one of our most consistent players can't get a start.
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Posted 15 November 2024 - 07:56 PM

View Postdim view, on 15 November 2024 - 06:52 PM, said:

Yep, certainly, I've whinged about his omission based on Dobra having, imo, a disappointing spell. Nowt to do with Markanday.

I think Dobra scored 10 goals last season across all competitions, it's November and he's currently on 5 goals.

When you consider he's usually got about three opposition players surrounding him as soon as he gets the ball, I don't think we can complain too much (if at all).
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Posted 15 November 2024 - 08:08 PM

View PostBlue5, on 15 November 2024 - 07:47 PM, said:

Controversial, Chris.

Since Paul Cook walked through the door, Mandy has been Mr. Consistent with an engine like the Energizer Bunny. We've not really been consistent so far this year and one of our most consistent players can't get a start.


But where?

Behind Grigg? Prefered to Markanday or Dobra? To them or Colclough or Berry either side?

Prefered to Tanton at RB?

I bow to no one in my affection for Liam. A guaranteed 'seven' every week. But he lacks the pace or trickery or threat to elbow any of the current front five or six out, and the specialised ability to make the right back slot his own.

Sadly, LM falls into the 'jack of all trades, master of none' category...
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Posted 15 November 2024 - 10:08 PM

View PostGoku, on 15 November 2024 - 06:00 PM, said:

Yep, one of those ideas which sounds quite good but probably wouldn?t translate well.

Mandeville is battling it out with Markanday for the AMR position and Markanday is just better unfortunately. He?s doing a solid enough job at RB when needed. It?s a long season, I?m sure he?ll get more minutes.


Yeah I'd agree with this, along with the fact he's unfortunately been required to play Right back more often that we'd want him to.

Markanday has come in and displaced him, without a shadow of a doubt, I'm afraid Mandy can't really play anywhere else across the 3, maybe in the centre but much less effective.

Probably the same with Araujo taking Grimes' place also
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Posted 16 November 2024 - 08:36 AM

While acknowledging that Mandeville?s best position is probably on the right up front would be interested to see him play a game as one of the two defensive midfielders
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Posted 16 November 2024 - 09:24 AM

View PostBrookie, on 16 November 2024 - 08:36 AM, said:

While acknowledging that Mandeville?s best position is probably on the right up front would be interested to see him play a game as one of the two defensive midfielders

I have absolutely no doubt he can do it, in fact if I?m sure it would suit him more than RB, listen to his interview playing RB it does not smack of self confidence, Mandeville is no Drew Talbot , drew was extremely quick off the mark, Mandy isn?t, but when he is on form he rarely gives the ball away , he looks every inch a confidence player who needs a run of games a jobbing right back isn?t what he needs
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