[Walton Spireite]

JonB, on 07 October 2024 - 10:27 AM, said:

Byrne is head of academy coaching as well as any first team coaching role so we're working him to earn his keep! Keeper coach is Dave O'Hare. So we've got Cook then Webb, Roberts, Dyer, Byrne in two roles, a keeper coach which is a specialist role that any club will have and an analyst....i doubt we are any different to most League 2 clubs.

I don't think you need Webb, Roberts, Dyer and Byrne. I think two would be sufficient and as such a headcount reduction of 2.also keeper coach would be part-time. And then we wonder why we lose vast sums of money every year. Its not rocket science.

This post has been edited by Walton Spireite: 07 October 2024 - 10:35 AM

[JonB]

Walton Spireite, on 07 October 2024 - 10:34 AM, said:

I don't think you need Webb, Roberts, Dyer and Byrne. I think two would be sufficient and as such a headcount reduction of 2.also keeper coach would be part-time.

So numerous professional football clubs are doing the same as us but you think it can be done with half the staff and a specialist coach part time who will not only be working with first team keepers but also the academy keepers at various levels.

[Walton Spireite]

JonB, on 07 October 2024 - 10:37 AM, said:

So numerous professional football clubs are doing the same as us but you think it can be done with half the staff and a specialist coach part time who will not only be working with first team keepers but also the academy keepers at various levels.

There will be numerous clubs who can't afford the luxury that we have.

[ash_cfc]

Walton Spireite seems more concerned about our backroom staff & the money spent on it than the multi millionaire ownership we are under. Who don?t seem concerned. Who actually seem quite the opposite of concerned and are willing to give Cook exactly what he thinks he needs to succeed.

[calvin plummers socks]

Walton Spireite, on 07 October 2024 - 04:44 AM, said:

I would like to see the full job description for each member of the backroom staff. Who is responsible for what exactly.

Seeing as we smashed the league last year and are doing pretty good so far this year I?d say well done to them.

Walton Spireite, on 07 October 2024 - 10:34 AM, said:

I don't think you need Webb, Roberts, Dyer and Byrne. I think two would be sufficient and as such a headcount reduction of 2.also keeper coach would be part-time. And then we wonder why we lose vast sums of money every year. Its not rocket science.

This just shows out of touch with reality you are.
Unless you?re down the training ground with your notebook and binoculars that is

[clarevoyant.]

It's the clubs who appear to employ a couple of 'dark arts' coaches a sh..housery coach and medics who give the impression they don't know what they are doing, that need questioning.

[calvin plummers socks]

clarevoyant., on 07 October 2024 - 11:23 AM, said:

It's the clubs who appear to employ a couple of 'dark arts' coaches a sh..housery coach and medics who give the impression they don't know what they are doing, that need questioning.

Oh Jeez - still doing this??

[JonB]

calvin plummers socks, on 07 October 2024 - 11:24 AM, said:

Oh Jeez - still doing this??

The unofficial timeout by them on Saturday when we had got on top was a bit tiresome. Keeper falls to ground, he's "treated" while all 10 outfield players come over for a drink and there is a team talk to reorganise. Its one thing breaking up play etc or bringing things to the refs attention but completely stopping play to have a team talk shouldnt be happening and can be easily stopped by the officials making all the players return to the field.

[danblue]

JonB, on 07 October 2024 - 11:34 AM, said:

The unofficial timeout by them on Saturday when we had got on top was a bit tiresome. Keeper falls to ground, he's "treated" while all 10 outfield players come over for a drink and there is a team talk to reorganise. Its one thing breaking up play etc or bringing things to the refs attention but completely stopping play to have a team talk shouldnt be happening and can be easily stopped by the officials making all the players return to the field.

I kept eyes on that keeper skit.
And the only 'treatment' which was administered was a drink. No spray, muscle rub or magic sponge just a drink. All this with the ref hovering over which makes it all the more frustrating

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[JonB]

danblue, on 07 October 2024 - 11:37 AM, said:

I kept eyes on that keeper skit.
And the only 'treatment' which was administered was a drink. No spray, muscle rub or magic sponge just a drink. All this with the ref hovering over which makes it all the more frustrating

And the 4th official and West Stand assistant in close attendance of the team talk with nothing said.

[clarevoyant.]

danblue, on 07 October 2024 - 11:37 AM, said:

I kept eyes on that keeper skit.
And the only 'treatment' which was administered was a drink. No spray, muscle rub or magic sponge just a drink. All this with the ref hovering over which makes it all the more frustrating

The refs hands are tied, he can't intervene with (professional?) medical staff, he can't deny treatment, if he did he would be for the high jump if it was later proved necessary. It's sh..house coaches taking an advantage by crossing the line.

Credit to their sh..house coach he'd got their keeper trained to perfection when it came to amateur dramatics,(about the only thing he got right from their point of view), he'd certainly have the bragging rights over the keepers coach after the game as he may claim the keepers timely play acting could have been a game changer.

[BlueRodneyFern]

JonB, on 07 October 2024 - 11:34 AM, said:

The unofficial timeout by them on Saturday when we had got on top was a bit tiresome. Keeper falls to ground, he's "treated" while all 10 outfield players come over for a drink and there is a team talk to reorganise. Its one thing breaking up play etc or bringing things to the refs attention but completely stopping play to have a team talk shouldnt be happening and can be easily stopped by the officials making all the players return to the field.

You could see Sadler telling the goalie to sit down for no apparent Injury and that's 4 teams that has done that to us at home this season without anything said

[Osborne again]

clarevoyant., on 07 October 2024 - 12:05 PM, said:

The refs hands are tied, he can't intervene with (professional?) medical staff, he can't deny treatment, if he did he would be for the high jump if it was later proved necessary. It's sh..house coaches taking an advantage by crossing the line.

Credit to their sh..house coach he'd got their keeper trained to perfection when it came to amateur dramatics,(about the only thing he got right from their point of view), he'd certainly have the bragging rights over the keepers coach after the game as he may claim the keepers timely play acting could have been a game changer.

Every team does it, I'm ashamed to say. Cheating,and that's what it is, is part of the game now, and you even see it in Sunday League games.

[KevoBMMD]

Walton Spireite, on 07 October 2024 - 04:44 AM, said:

I would like to see the full job description for each member of the backroom staff. Who is responsible for what exactly.

Cooky say's his door is always open so why not pop in and ask the right person. I am sure he will bow to your superior knowledge when you point things out to him

[danblue]

If a keeper just decides to sit down rubbing his leg why doesn't the ref wave 'play on' as it's not a head injury?

[Westbars Spireite]

danblue, on 07 October 2024 - 12:50 PM, said:

If a keeper just decides to sit down rubbing his leg why doesn't the ref wave 'play on' as it's not a head injury?

It's never going to happen for obvious reasons.

[JonB]

clarevoyant., on 07 October 2024 - 12:05 PM, said:

The refs hands are tied, he can't intervene with (professional?) medical staff, he can't deny treatment, if he did he would be for the high jump if it was later proved necessary. It's sh..house coaches taking an advantage by crossing the line.

Credit to their sh..house coach he'd got their keeper trained to perfection when it came to amateur dramatics,(about the only thing he got right from their point of view), he'd certainly have the bragging rights over the keepers coach after the game as he may claim the keepers timely play acting could have been a game changer.

Agree they cant stop the apparent required medical attention but between the ref, 4th official and assistant on that side they can stop the apparent mass request for a drink that turns into a team talk by stopping the players all going over. Then there is no need for the goalie to go down in the first place unless there it is a valid injury that needs treatment.

[clarevoyant.]

JonB, on 07 October 2024 - 01:00 PM, said:

Agree they cant stop the apparent required medical attention but between the ref, 4th official and assistant on that side they can stop the apparent mass request for a drink that turns into a team talk by stopping the players all going over. Then there is no need for the goalie to go down in the first place unless there it is a valid injury that needs treatment.

Unfortunately they would claim they were being denied an opportunity to take on vital body fluids and that wouldn't do. Sometimes the water crates are at the ready before an alleged injury as occured

[JonB]

clarevoyant., on 07 October 2024 - 01:30 PM, said:

Unfortunately they would claim they were being denied an opportunity to take on vital body fluids and that wouldn't do. Sometimes the water crates are at the ready before an alleged injury as occured

Normally more than happy to have a bottle thrown on from a distance then thrown back...they can do that. Plus there are laws about official drinks breaks when its above certain temperatures so unless they are in play they can get back on the pitch.

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[clarevoyant.]

JonB, on 07 October 2024 - 01:38 PM, said:

Normally more than happy to have a bottle thrown on from a distance then thrown back...they can do that. Plus there are laws about official drinks breaks when its above certain temperatures so unless they are in play they can get back on the pitch.

Could prove a bit chaotic a dozen or more bottles flying about. Would the bottle distributors be as accurate as your bowling?