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#201 User is offline   trickytrevsfanclub 

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Posted 06 October 2024 - 01:28 AM

According to Sky Stats we had 70% of the possession.
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Posted 06 October 2024 - 06:08 AM

Just watched the goals back. Not sure I was even looking when Oldaker did he what he did. Which makes two of us. I also didn't realise how wet the pitch was. Why was it watered to that unnecessary level? Love to know the thinking.
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#203 User is offline   60s 70s Spireite 

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Posted 06 October 2024 - 06:27 AM

View PostWestbars Spireite, on 06 October 2024 - 06:08 AM, said:

Just watched the goals back. Not sure I was even looking when Oldaker did he what he did. Which makes two of us. I also didn't realise how wet the pitch was. Why was it watered to that unnecessary level? Love to know the thinking.

It wasnt just wet, the grass was left long as well.
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#204 User is offline   60s 70s Spireite 

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Posted 06 October 2024 - 06:52 AM

View Posttrickytrevsfanclub, on 06 October 2024 - 01:28 AM, said:

According to Sky Stats we had 70% of the possession.

Mostly in our half one presumes.
Although it did create a goal. Their first.
Sorry.
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#205 User is online   Lincs Spireite 

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Posted 06 October 2024 - 07:25 AM

View Post60s 70s Spireite, on 06 October 2024 - 06:27 AM, said:

It wasnt just wet, the grass was left long as well.

The ground staff need taking to task over it. Way way too wet
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Posted 06 October 2024 - 07:33 AM

Just watched the highlights, it?s typical town using the self destruct button at times within games. My main takeaway is that I want to see players in their natural positions and that includes right back. Mandy is a brilliant footballer but he isn?t a full back, and in this league his positioning isn?t good enough.

However I?m assuming Vontae wasn?t fully fit hence the decision. The key has to be getting players fit and a 11 who are playing in their preferred positions.

The good news so far is that we haven?t played a team who we can?t compete with, and that?s with the injuries and players out of position.
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Posted 06 October 2024 - 07:35 AM

View PostLincs Spireite, on 06 October 2024 - 07:25 AM, said:

The ground staff need taking to task over it. Way way too wet

Are they under instructions though? Could be why Mandy slipped over in the first half too
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Posted 06 October 2024 - 07:36 AM

View PostPainted Wagon, on 06 October 2024 - 07:35 AM, said:

Are they under instructions though? Could be why Mandy slipped over in the first half too

Thompson slipped badly also on one occasion.
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Posted 06 October 2024 - 08:02 AM

View PostLincs Spireite, on 06 October 2024 - 07:25 AM, said:

The ground staff need taking to task over it. Way way too wet

They?ll be doing what?s asked of them?.
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Posted 06 October 2024 - 08:17 AM

Heavily watered from sprinklers behind both goals about 45 minutes before kick off. Can't remember seeing those used before.
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Posted 06 October 2024 - 08:20 AM

I saw puddles of water being spashed and thought that's not right.

Didn't really enjoy the game but we dug deep and showed application and determination and got a point.Yesterday morning, we were six points behind the leaders. This morning we are five.

COYB

This post has been edited by frearsghost: 06 October 2024 - 08:20 AM

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Posted 06 October 2024 - 09:52 AM

View PostJonB, on 06 October 2024 - 08:02 AM, said:

They?ll be doing what?s asked of them?.

Doubt that very much. It doesn't benefit us. We like the ball to zip along the surface quick, not slowed down spinning with water. Very very odd to say the least.
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Posted 06 October 2024 - 09:58 AM

View PostLincs Spireite, on 06 October 2024 - 09:52 AM, said:

Doubt that very much. It doesn't benefit us. We like the ball to zip along the surface quick, not slowed down spinning with water. Very very odd to say the least.


It would seem even less likely that they're doing it without being asked to.
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Posted 06 October 2024 - 10:06 AM

As far as the wet pitch is concerned, I can only guess the theory is that as our players are nearly always smaller and lighter than our opponents, it will make us more nimble, balanced, and quicker. What happened yesterday is that they were generally bigger, but also stronger and faster and prepared to go at us from the kick off. We were extremely fortunate to go in level at HT, and when they retook the lead I could see us getting absolutely hammered. Credit to PC for bold substitutions that turned the game so much in our favour that their manager had to resort to breaking up the game and engineering a long stoppage to take the wind out of our sails. Great credit to our players for resilience when under the cosh. The other good news is that, despite being really test2ed, we ended up one point closer to the top of the league, and we're still in touch with the top teams.
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Posted 06 October 2024 - 10:07 AM

It won?t happen but this would be what I would try as a formation, it?s not without flaws but I feel we may be better off

Boot in goal, I think his distribution is key
Back 3 of right side Dunkley, central grimes, left side araujo, this adds inches to the back line, grimes can?t get pulled out of position in the middle

Midfield 3 of Metcalfe naylor and dobro at the head of the triangle, match or outnumber the opposition, huge amount of energy in that 3 left side berry, right wing colclugh, give dobs a free roll , berry and colclough to be told to run themselves too a standstill

Upfront TWO of grigg and madden, we simply have to give support to grigg, we want goals from all areas of the 18 yard box



Subs
Mandeville any role on the right or middle , right back never he has no pace off the mark

Gordon, unlucky but he can fill in on the left for berry or left for araujo

Mark Andy
Cover for colclough
Fleck central

This post has been edited by Bonnyman: 06 October 2024 - 10:13 AM

ITS NOT THE WINNING,ITS THE TAKING APART
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Posted 06 October 2024 - 10:10 AM

View PostLincs Spireite, on 05 October 2024 - 05:24 PM, said:

First 60 we were like a rabbit in headlights. Thet were clearly the better team, fortunately that changed after our 4 subs. Then it became more even and could have gone either way. Why was the pitch overwatered ? You could see spray every time we played it on the floor, slowing the ball down a lot.

Over watered is a understatement lol 😆 same for both teams but I think it affected us more.some players couldn't stand up. we have had enough rain no need to keep watering it . couldn't believe they then turned sprinklers on again at half time. said to my m8 no need . any way a good point and as someone on this board said we have played 7 of top half teams in first
10 games . and we aur there abouts and will only improve imo . looking good for a very good season. still think we will go up .
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Posted 06 October 2024 - 11:38 AM

View PostBonnyman, on 06 October 2024 - 10:07 AM, said:

It won?t happen but this would be what I would try as a formation, it?s not without flaws but I feel we may be better off

Boot in goal, I think his distribution is key
Back 3 of right side Dunkley, central grimes, left side araujo, this adds inches to the back line, grimes can?t get pulled out of position in the middle

Midfield 3 of Metcalfe naylor and dobro at the head of the triangle, match or outnumber the opposition, huge amount of energy in that 3 left side berry, right wing colclugh, give dobs a free roll , berry and colclough to be told to run themselves too a standstill

Upfront TWO of grigg and madden, we simply have to give support to grigg, we want goals from all areas of the 18 yard box



Subs
Mandeville any role on the right or middle , right back never he has no pace off the mark

Gordon, unlucky but he can fill in on the left for berry or left for araujo

Mark Andy
Cover for colclough
Fleck central

I'm not a fan personally as we seem to be very exposed down the flanks. I see how you're trying to bolster certain areas but if I'm assuming right, the defensive work down the flanks is being done by Berry/Colclough and I don't think they're naturally suited to a defensive role.

Still, each to their own.

Edit - ps it wasn't me who negged you BTW.

This post has been edited by Doughnut: 06 October 2024 - 11:39 AM

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Posted 06 October 2024 - 11:51 AM

View PostDoughnut, on 06 October 2024 - 11:38 AM, said:

I'm not a fan personally as we seem to be very exposed down the flanks. I see how you're trying to bolster certain areas but if I'm assuming right, the defensive work down the flanks is being done by Berry/Colclough and I don't think they're naturally suited to a defensive role.

Still, each to their own.

Edit - ps it wasn't me who negged you BTW.

Agreed we'd be marmalade with that lineup
Accentuate th Positive, eliminate the negative
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Posted 06 October 2024 - 11:53 AM

View PostBonnyman, on 06 October 2024 - 10:07 AM, said:

It won?t happen but this would be what I would try as a formation, it?s not without flaws but I feel we may be better off

Boot in goal, I think his distribution is key
Back 3 of right side Dunkley, central grimes, left side araujo, this adds inches to the back line, grimes can?t get pulled out of position in the middle

Midfield 3 of Metcalfe naylor and dobro at the head of the triangle, match or outnumber the opposition, huge amount of energy in that 3 left side berry, right wing colclugh, give dobs a free roll , berry and colclough to be told to run themselves too a standstill

Upfront TWO of grigg and madden, we simply have to give support to grigg, we want goals from all areas of the 18 yard box



Subs
Mandeville any role on the right or middle , right back never he has no pace off the mark

Gordon, unlucky but he can fill in on the left for berry or left for araujo

Mark Andy
Cover for colclough
Fleck central

You want us to leave out our current player of the season Gordon?

I already saw your opinion as irrelevant as I think you talk some absolute rubbish, but that one is impressive even for your standards
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Posted 06 October 2024 - 12:13 PM

View PostBonnyman, on 06 October 2024 - 10:07 AM, said:

It won?t happen but this would be what I would try as a formation, it?s not without flaws but I feel we may be better off

Boot in goal, I think his distribution is key
Back 3 of right side Dunkley, central grimes, left side araujo, this adds inches to the back line, grimes can?t get pulled out of position in the middle

Midfield 3 of Metcalfe naylor and dobro at the head of the triangle, match or outnumber the opposition, huge amount of energy in that 3 left side berry, right wing colclugh, give dobs a free roll , berry and colclough to be told to run themselves too a standstill

Upfront TWO of grigg and madden, we simply have to give support to grigg, we want goals from all areas of the 18 yard box



Subs
Mandeville any role on the right or middle , right back never he has no pace off the mark

Gordon, unlucky but he can fill in on the left for berry or left for araujo

Mark Andy
Cover for colclough
Fleck central


Berry doesnt track his runners defensively so having him as a wingback wouldnt work.
Dropping Gordon who's been probably our best player so far is questionable.
Dunkley doesnt have the pace to play on the right side of a back three
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