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#1 User is offline   Zigsuk 

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Posted 23 September 2024 - 04:01 PM

Ideal side assumimng everyone is fit would probabaly be

Boot
Tanton Arujo Dunkley Gordon
Dobra Naylor Fleck Colclough
Grigg Madden

442 why not?

subs
Thompson
Grimes
Banks
Oldaker
Mandeville
Berry
Markandy or Jacobs

Obviously there will be problems. Firstly will there be a time when everyone is fit and will Grigg and Madden ever get to play together? Also can Dobra be as effective on the right? Although he and Coco shoould be interchangeable as the latter is supposed to be right footed even though he favours the left. And finally there will be those who object to 442, but systems are overrated and interchangeable - after all it's often just a matter of 20 yards or so difference. I have never rated the system of a lone striker, unless he has the pace of Michael Owen at his peak or even Owen Doyle.
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Posted 23 September 2024 - 04:02 PM

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Posted 23 September 2024 - 04:18 PM

Yeah none of that one striker sh**, where?s that ever got us
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Posted 23 September 2024 - 04:20 PM

If it?s good enough for Mike basset then cookie should be following his lead??
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Posted 23 September 2024 - 04:25 PM

View PostZigsuk, on 23 September 2024 - 04:01 PM, said:

Ideal side assumimng everyone is fit would probabaly be

Boot
Tanton Arujo Dunkley Gordon
Dobra Naylor Fleck Colclough
Grigg Madden

442 why not?

subs
Thompson
Grimes
Banks
Oldaker
Mandeville
Berry
Markandy or Jacobs

Obviously there will be problems. Firstly will there be a time when everyone is fit and will Grigg and Madden ever get to play together? Also can Dobra be as effective on the right? Although he and Coco shoould be interchangeable as the latter is supposed to be right footed even though he favours the left. And finally there will be those who object to 442, but systems are overrated and interchangeable - after all it's often just a matter of 20 yards or so difference. I have never rated the system of a lone striker, unless he has the pace of Michael Owen at his peak or even Owen Doyle.


Decent side and I really want to see Araujo start with Dunkley at CB and Naylor moved to midfield - that team also works with Cook's favourite formation with Dobra, Madden and Colclough behind Grigg
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Posted 23 September 2024 - 05:16 PM

Don?t think we?ll know a best team without a run of games but would love to see this against Donny.

Thompson (deserves a chance and we?ve kept 1 clean sheet all season)

Mandeville (Tanton a good player but would love to get Mandy into the 11)
Dunkley
Araujo
Gordon

Fleck
Naylor

Markanday
Dobby
Berry

Madden

Subs:
Boot, Grimes, Tanton, DJ, Colclough, Banks, Grigg
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Posted 23 September 2024 - 05:18 PM

View Posthilly81, on 23 September 2024 - 04:02 PM, said:




Apologiues I missed this. But interesting that it is exactly the same team.
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Posted 23 September 2024 - 05:33 PM

View PostZigsuk, on 23 September 2024 - 05:18 PM, said:

Apologiues I missed this. But interesting that it is exactly the same team.

Great minds think alike 😉
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Posted 23 September 2024 - 06:49 PM

Boot
Tanton Dunkley Grimes Gordon
Fleck Naylor
Markandy Dobra Colclough
Madden

Realistically I expect Grigg and Madden to rotate. That midfield though 😍
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Posted 23 September 2024 - 08:30 PM

View Postprolurker, on 23 September 2024 - 05:16 PM, said:

Don?t think we?ll know a best team without a run of games but would love to see this against Donny.

Thompson (deserves a chance and we?ve kept 1 clean sheet all season)

Mandeville (Tanton a good player but would love to get Mandy into the 11)
Dunkley
Araujo
Gordon

Fleck
Naylor

Markanday
Dobby
Berry

Madden

Subs:
Boot, Grimes, Tanton, DJ, Colclough, Banks, Grigg

Wor I'm doing when trying to assess our potential is to figure out how many of our squad would walk in to any others'. That would be 6 : Dunkley, Fleck, Colclough, Naylor, Mandeville, Grigg. With another 1 or 2 with the potential. That's more than any other club. Ergo, we are good to go.
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Posted 23 September 2024 - 10:34 PM

View PostZigsuk, on 23 September 2024 - 04:01 PM, said:

Ideal side assumimng everyone is fit would probabaly be

Boot
Tanton Arujo Dunkley Gordon
Dobra Naylor Fleck Colclough
Grigg Madden

442 why not?

subs
Thompson
Grimes
Banks
Oldaker
Mandeville
Berry
Markandy or Jacobs

Obviously there will be problems. Firstly will there be a time when everyone is fit and will Grigg and Madden ever get to play together? Also can Dobra be as effective on the right? Although he and Coco shoould be interchangeable as the latter is supposed to be right footed even though he favours the left. And finally there will be those who object to 442, but systems are overrated and interchangeable - after all it's often just a matter of 20 yards or so difference. I have never rated the system of a lone striker, unless he has the pace of Michael Owen at his peak or even Owen Doyle.


Because Cook won't play 442.
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Posted 24 September 2024 - 12:37 AM

View PostWestbars Spireite, on 23 September 2024 - 10:34 PM, said:

Because Cook won't play 442.


The irony being that will probably end up being the Strongest/Ideal/Bestest2 XI but playing 4231

This post has been edited by Spireite93: 24 September 2024 - 12:38 AM

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Posted 24 September 2024 - 04:43 PM

View PostWestbars Spireite, on 23 September 2024 - 10:34 PM, said:

Because Cook won't play 442.

Reckon he's more likely to play 352 than 442 and there ain't much of that either
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Posted 25 September 2024 - 05:23 AM

I rekon he?s more likely to play Grigg at left back than B****Y 4-4-2?.

That?s enough internet today guys?.

This has to be the suggestion of one of the gerrit forrad brigade
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Posted 25 September 2024 - 06:20 AM

View PostDapets, on 25 September 2024 - 05:23 AM, said:

I rekon he?s more likely to play Grigg at left back than B****Y 4-4-2?.

That?s enough internet today guys?.

This has to be the suggestion of one of the gerrit forrad brigade


I can honestly say that the shouts of gerrit forrad do wind me up a tad. Some won't be happy until we go from boot to 6ft6" striker in one kick.
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Posted 25 September 2024 - 07:48 AM

View PostOsborne again, on 25 September 2024 - 06:20 AM, said:

I can honestly say that the shouts of gerrit forrad do wind me up a tad. Some won't be happy until we go from boot to 6ft6" striker in one kick.

I tell you what makes me laugh is people who think a long ball is a crime, football is about exposing flaws in the opposition it is a game built on variables and a long pass is part of that game, I wish we did have a mobile 6 ft 5 striker who could hold a ball up , it?s a weapon we simply have not got.
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Posted 25 September 2024 - 07:51 AM

View PostBonnyman, on 25 September 2024 - 07:48 AM, said:

I tell you what makes me laugh is people who think a long ball is a crime, football is about exposing flaws in the opposition it is a game built on variables and a long pass is part of that game, I wish we did have a mobile 6 ft 5 striker who could hold a ball up , it?s a weapon we simply have not got.


Which is precisely why the gerrit forrad brigade are thickos. Might have some merit if we had a unit up top.
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Posted 25 September 2024 - 08:02 AM

View PostBonnyman, on 25 September 2024 - 07:48 AM, said:

I tell you what makes me laugh is people who think a long ball is a crime, football is about exposing flaws in the opposition it is a game built on variables and a long pass is part of that game.

As we have found to our cost a couple of times this season already.
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Posted 25 September 2024 - 08:12 AM

2 sided to the long ball coin.
Shouldn't be playing ball straight up to Drummond to try hold up
Got done by long ball vs Cheltenham

Ironically, the Cheltenham long ball (or balls tonrun on to) for the goal is a pass that Drummond would thrive on
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Posted 25 September 2024 - 09:49 AM

View PostBonnyman, on 25 September 2024 - 07:48 AM, said:

I tell you what makes me laugh is people who think a long ball is a crime, football is about exposing flaws in the opposition it is a game built on variables and a long pass is part of that game, I wish we did have a mobile 6 ft 5 striker who could hold a ball up , it?s a weapon we simply have not got.


If you want to watch football that went out in the stone age, then you're welcome to it. The odd directed long pass to split a defence is great to see, but I don't want to spend my time trying to spot the ball coming back into the atmosphere, just for the ref to stop the game, while one of their defenders rolls about clutching his face as though Dirty Harry has blown him away.
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