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Deja Vu 2011-2012

#1 User is offline   gordon_brittas 

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Posted 24 July 2024 - 09:36 AM

Really disappointed with the transfer dealings so far. Squad seems unbalanced. Expected departures but with the injuries now it seems like we will struggle to move these players on now.

I?m not saying we will go down but this summer takes me back to summer of 2011, when we were desperately short in several areas.

Hope a few more incomings materialise before the 9th.
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Posted 24 July 2024 - 09:52 AM

I think the problem is is that we gave too many contacts last season to players how aren't good enough for this league that we can't move on because they won't be in demand elsewhere. I don't think we will struggle though as we have the momentum from last season and we will have a lot of support at home game to help the team.

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Posted 24 July 2024 - 09:57 AM

View PostDougspireite78, on 24 July 2024 - 09:52 AM, said:

I think the problem is is that we gave too many contacts last season to players how aren't good enough for this league that we can't move on because they won't be in demand elsewhere. I don't think we will struggle though as we have the momentum from last season and we will have a lot of support at home game to help the team.

They'll be wanted in the National League, it's whether they want to go back there

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Posted 24 July 2024 - 10:01 AM

View Postgordon_brittas, on 24 July 2024 - 09:36 AM, said:

Really disappointed with the transfer dealings so far. Squad seems unbalanced. Expected departures but with the injuries now it seems like we will struggle to move these players on now.

I?m not saying we will go down but this summer takes me back to summer of 2011, when we were desperately short in several areas.

Hope a few more incomings materialise before the 9th.

Well I'll bet you're in constant demand for delivering inspirational speeches! Might I venture to suggest a change of user name to SWB (Soggy Wet Blanket)?
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Posted 24 July 2024 - 10:03 AM

View Postdanblue, on 24 July 2024 - 09:57 AM, said:

They'll be wanted in the National League, it's whether they want to go back there


The probably with is is whether clubs can afford their wages as id imagine they'd be on a decent wage while here.
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Posted 24 July 2024 - 10:07 AM

View PostDougspireite78, on 24 July 2024 - 10:03 AM, said:

The probably with is is whether clubs can afford their wages as id imagine they'd be on a decent wage while here.

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Posted 24 July 2024 - 10:07 AM

View Postsophocles, on 24 July 2024 - 10:01 AM, said:

Well I'll bet you're in constant demand for delivering inspirational speeches! Might I venture to suggest a change of user name to SWB (Soggy Wet Blanket)?
Gordon and doom and gloom posts go hand in hand.
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Posted 24 July 2024 - 10:15 AM

View Posttomjoad, on 24 July 2024 - 10:07 AM, said:

Gordon and doom and gloom posts go hand in hand.

Think he made a couple of good points though. It is arguable that there is imbalance in the squad and that the injuries may make trading players more difficult.

This post has been edited by azul: 24 July 2024 - 10:16 AM

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Posted 24 July 2024 - 10:18 AM

View PostDougspireite78, on 24 July 2024 - 09:52 AM, said:

I think the problem is is that we gave too many contacts last season to players how aren't good enough for this league that we can't move on because they won't be in demand elsewhere. I don't think we will struggle though as we have the momentum from last season and we will have a lot of support at home game to help the team.

I agree with that. I?d say the spine of the squad is probably good enough to go up again, but once you look at the rest of the squad that?s when doubts start creeping in. I don?t think at all we will go down, but expecting to finish between 8th and 14th place.

Time will tell, but it?s looking more like a 3 year plan to challenge to me.

View Postazul, on 24 July 2024 - 10:15 AM, said:

Think he made a couple of good points though. It is arguable that there is imbalance in the squad and that the injuries may make trading players more difficult.

I?d love to be proven wrong and Cookie takes us up again.
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Posted 24 July 2024 - 10:18 AM

View Posttomjoad, on 24 July 2024 - 10:07 AM, said:

Gordon and doom and gloom posts go hand in hand.


It's only 2 weeks ago he said we would finish in 8th spot!! Ha ha :-)
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Posted 24 July 2024 - 10:22 AM

We have been blessed in the last year with minimal impact from injuries. The start of this season has seen two long term injuries already. Given limits to squad size, injuries can always impact on a seasons performance and we need take account of that as we done have Wrexhams millions.
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Posted 24 July 2024 - 10:28 AM

View Postgordon_brittas, on 24 July 2024 - 09:36 AM, said:

Really disappointed with the transfer dealings so far. Squad seems unbalanced. Expected departures but with the injuries now it seems like we will struggle to move these players on now.

I?m not saying we will go down but this summer takes me back to summer of 2011, when we were desperately short in several areas.

Hope a few more incomings materialise before the 9th.



My thoughts entirely, really disappointed with the transfer business

Extensions handed to the likes of Quigley just didn?t make sense

Going into the new season with no improvement in the strike force is demoralising

This post has been edited by Search & Destroy: 24 July 2024 - 10:30 AM

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Posted 24 July 2024 - 10:35 AM

Even with the new FB signings we have looked awful down the flanks. We look much more solid at CB.
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Posted 24 July 2024 - 11:00 AM

View Postlindave, on 24 July 2024 - 10:35 AM, said:

Even with the new FB signings we have looked awful down the flanks. We look much more solid at CB.


What do you reckon to the new left back Dave, because I'm not sold yet, although it's early days yet.
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Posted 24 July 2024 - 11:02 AM

Deja Vu, Gordon_Britarse in pessimism shock.
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Posted 24 July 2024 - 11:06 AM

View PostDougspireite78, on 24 July 2024 - 09:52 AM, said:

I think the problem is is that we gave too many contacts last season to players how aren't good enough for this league that we can't move on because they won't be in demand elsewhere. I don't think we will struggle though as we have the momentum from last season and we will have a lot of support at home game to help the team.


Let us get back to basics shall we?

Last season the problem was that we needed to get promoted from the NL back into the EFL.

So, job done.

This coming season the problem is that we need to ensure we do not drop back into the NL. Anything above that is a bonus..

I think our squad is good enough to achieve that even though I have not witnessed much of L2 for 6 seasons.

The next problem will be regarding how to get back into L1.

So, please, one step at a time.

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Posted 24 July 2024 - 11:23 AM

View Postlindave, on 24 July 2024 - 10:35 AM, said:

Even with the new FB signings we have looked awful down the flanks. We look much more solid at CB.


I'm detecting a feeling of generally despondancy on here. Again, I think there will be a few rabbits out of the hat before the season starts and yes, tbh, some players will need to leave.
We might even go with a 3-5-2 set up or similar but maybe this evening's perfromance might give a bit of an indicator where we are. If Cook fails to address the obvious shortcomings, then he will come in for some perhaps deserved flak. He's not daft. Sometimes you have to wait for the right player - a bit like dating - not the first person you meet etc. Interesting 3wks to come but I reckon there'll be some movement in and out.
Maybe the Scunthorpe game is a pointer. If we get battered then yes, issues. Patience.
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Posted 24 July 2024 - 11:32 AM

View PostSocraticCFC, on 24 July 2024 - 11:23 AM, said:

I'm detecting a feeling of generally despondancy on here. Again, I think there will be a few rabbits out of the hat before the season starts and yes, tbh, some players will need to leave.
We might even go with a 3-5-2 set up or similar but maybe this evening's perfromance might give a bit of an indicator where we are. If Cook fails to address the obvious shortcomings, then he will come in for some perhaps deserved flak. He's not daft. Sometimes you have to wait for the right player - a bit like dating - not the first person you meet etc. Interesting 3wks to come but I reckon there'll be some movement in and out.
Maybe the Scunthorpe game is a pointer. If we get battered then yes, issues. Patience.

I have reviewed my expectations downwards and think a few others have too. I was hoping for outgoing activity to allow room for incomings before our preseason is over and that is now questionable.
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Posted 24 July 2024 - 11:44 AM

View Postazul, on 24 July 2024 - 11:32 AM, said:

I have reviewed my expectations downwards and think a few others have too. I was hoping for outgoing activity to allow room for incomings before our preseason is over and that is now questionable.


It does seem with a competitive budget things are a bit flat. Hold tight.
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Posted 24 July 2024 - 12:02 PM

I'm just glad I'm not lost at sea with some of this depressing, defeatist lot - I think I'd just throw myself overboard and be done with it. It's absolutely ridiculous to panic after a couple of tough practice games against opponents from higher leagues. I think a bit more faith in PC would be good - I'm certain he will have us ready once the real stuff begins.
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